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Date: 31 Oct 2006 19:11:23
From:
Subject: how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//


i have updated an excel spreadsheet, follows.

how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//

whooah, i may need to include an attachment- table
does not display well in text.! (body of email.)

don.mcdonald wellington nz. Adapted.
1-11-2006. "7x planets line up V=config, norbert haley
APD, 23.10.2006."
astronomical pocket diary................

the handbook of the british astronomical assn 1976.
BAA.
elements of the planetary orbits

commensurability of solar system years.XXXXXXXXXX
mean elements for the Epoch 1976 january 1.5 ET.

planet sidereal period no. orbits=365.256*500/days
days (500 Earth years.) Rounded.Fractionalpart/error.
Mercury 87.969 2076.049517 2076 0.050
Venus 224.701 812.7600678 813 -0.240
Earth 365.256 500 500 0.000
Mars 686.98 265.8418003 266 -0.158
Jupiter 4332.59 42.15215379 42 0.152
Saturn 10759.2 16.97412447 17 -0.026
Uranus 30684.9 5.951722183 6 -0.048
Neptun. 60190.3 3.034176603 3 0.034
(Pluto) x2

"cuox2D12hr== see u round again X2, 12hrs after 500
years. (LASER reflector.)"
"therefore, many photons make minimum closed traveling
salesman tour of solar system."

commensurability of solar system years.
no. of orbits was ALWAYS much closer to a whole number
than a half.

"the greatest offsets from a whole number were 0.76,
0.84, and 0.15."
"five planets, MER EART SAT URA NEPT are within .05 of
a whole no. orbits!"

The problem is similar to relative atomic mass.
There isn't an exact lowest common multiple.
where carbon atom is a standard of 12 units.

"In the Planets' case, all planets complete nearly
a whole no. orbits in 500 Earth years."

Better than Titus//-Bode's Law????
Donald S. McDonald.
THIs is just so easy to remember. HOORAY! MNEMONICs.

Don S. McDonald





 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 04:32:29
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//


Hi:

I'm sure it's a nice spreadsheet and all, but like you've been told,
this can't and won't happen.




don.lotto@paradise.net.nz wrote:
> i have updated an excel spreadsheet, follows.
>
> how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//
>
> whooah, i may need to include an attachment- table
> does not display well in text.! (body of email.)
>
> don.mcdonald wellington nz. Adapted.
> 1-11-2006. "7x planets line up V=config, norbert haley
> APD, 23.10.2006."
> astronomical pocket diary................
>
> the handbook of the british astronomical assn 1976.
> BAA.
> elements of the planetary orbits
>
> commensurability of solar system years.XXXXXXXXXX
> mean elements for the Epoch 1976 january 1.5 ET.
>
> planet sidereal period no. orbits=365.256*500/days
> days (500 Earth years.) Rounded.Fractionalpart/error.
> Mercury 87.969 2076.049517 2076 0.050
> Venus 224.701 812.7600678 813 -0.240
> Earth 365.256 500 500 0.000
> Mars 686.98 265.8418003 266 -0.158
> Jupiter 4332.59 42.15215379 42 0.152
> Saturn 10759.2 16.97412447 17 -0.026
> Uranus 30684.9 5.951722183 6 -0.048
> Neptun. 60190.3 3.034176603 3 0.034
> (Pluto) x2
>
> "cuox2D12hr== see u round again X2, 12hrs after 500
> years. (LASER reflector.)"
> "therefore, many photons make minimum closed traveling
> salesman tour of solar system."
>
> commensurability of solar system years.
> no. of orbits was ALWAYS much closer to a whole number
> than a half.
>
> "the greatest offsets from a whole number were 0.76,
> 0.84, and 0.15."
> "five planets, MER EART SAT URA NEPT are within .05 of
> a whole no. orbits!"
>
> The problem is similar to relative atomic mass.
> There isn't an exact lowest common multiple.
> where carbon atom is a standard of 12 units.
>
> "In the Planets' case, all planets complete nearly
> a whole no. orbits in 500 Earth years."
>
> Better than Titus//-Bode's Law????
> Donald S. McDonald.
> THIs is just so easy to remember. HOORAY! MNEMONICs.
>
> Don S. McDonald



 
Date: 31 Oct 2006 22:20:43
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//


It is my understanding that the planets NEVER totaly line up, that the best
you can have is a close grouping but never in a true line.


--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond

Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html


<don.lotto@paradise.net.nz > wrote in message
news:1162350683.885199.276220@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>i have updated an excel spreadsheet, follows.
>
> how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//
>
> whooah, i may need to include an attachment- table
> does not display well in text.! (body of email.)
>
> don.mcdonald wellington nz. Adapted.
> 1-11-2006. "7x planets line up V=config, norbert haley
> APD, 23.10.2006."
> astronomical pocket diary................
>
> the handbook of the british astronomical assn 1976.
> BAA.
> elements of the planetary orbits
>
> commensurability of solar system years.XXXXXXXXXX
> mean elements for the Epoch 1976 january 1.5 ET.
>
> planet sidereal period no. orbits=365.256*500/days
> days (500 Earth years.) Rounded.Fractionalpart/error.
> Mercury 87.969 2076.049517 2076 0.050
> Venus 224.701 812.7600678 813 -0.240
> Earth 365.256 500 500 0.000
> Mars 686.98 265.8418003 266 -0.158
> Jupiter 4332.59 42.15215379 42 0.152
> Saturn 10759.2 16.97412447 17 -0.026
> Uranus 30684.9 5.951722183 6 -0.048
> Neptun. 60190.3 3.034176603 3 0.034
> (Pluto) x2
>
> "cuox2D12hr== see u round again X2, 12hrs after 500
> years. (LASER reflector.)"
> "therefore, many photons make minimum closed traveling
> salesman tour of solar system."
>
> commensurability of solar system years.
> no. of orbits was ALWAYS much closer to a whole number
> than a half.
>
> "the greatest offsets from a whole number were 0.76,
> 0.84, and 0.15."
> "five planets, MER EART SAT URA NEPT are within .05 of
> a whole no. orbits!"
>
> The problem is similar to relative atomic mass.
> There isn't an exact lowest common multiple.
> where carbon atom is a standard of 12 units.
>
> "In the Planets' case, all planets complete nearly
> a whole no. orbits in 500 Earth years."
>
> Better than Titus//-Bode's Law????
> Donald S. McDonald.
> THIs is just so easy to remember. HOORAY! MNEMONICs.
>
> Don S. McDonald
>




  
Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:46:05
From: IRO
Subject: Re: how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//


In article <B-mdnQuj6t_potXYnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@inreach.com >,
"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info > wrote:

> It is my understanding that the planets NEVER totaly line up, that the best
> you can have is a close grouping but never in a true line.

You then have to ask "what is the significance of such a grouping?"
Nothing I can think of.

--
~IRO
(enzed = nz)


   
Date: 01 Nov 2006 14:57:24
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//


I didn't say there was something special about that, I just said that the
planets didn't line up, that the closes would be a grouping of them. If
you've been on S.A.A. for any time you should know that I don't say anything
unless I happen to know about the subject.


--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond

Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html


"IRO" <irotemp@ihug.co.enzed > wrote in message
news:irotemp-85E7E4.09460502112006@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> In article <B-mdnQuj6t_potXYnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@inreach.com>,
> "Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote:
>
>> It is my understanding that the planets NEVER totaly line up, that the
>> best
>> you can have is a close grouping but never in a true line.
>
> You then have to ask "what is the significance of such a grouping?"
> Nothing I can think of.
>
> --
> ~IRO
> (enzed = nz)




    
Date: 02 Nov 2006 15:40:09
From: Nig
Subject: Re: how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//


In article <bPSdnUlTWcstt9TYnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@inreach.com >,
"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info > wrote:

> I didn't say there was something special about that, I just said that the
> planets didn't line up, that the closes would be a grouping of them. If
> you've been on S.A.A. for any time you should know that I don't say anything
> unless I happen to know about the subject.

I think he was referring to the original posting by Don McD. A grouping
is a pretty sight on a good night, but of no more significance.

--
Nigel


 
Date: 01 Nov 2006 18:52:12
From:
Subject: how often planets Line Up? 500 years//one zodiac sign?


how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//
WITHIN ONE ZODIAC SIGN e.g.

how often planets Line Up? 500 years//one zodiac sign?

try to be intelligent. and read [below] what the original poster wrote,
please.
A VERY NEAT PROPERTY!!

do you know maths 'incommensurable?'
if one thousand planets line up for you- then..
they won't for me if i am one atom off the line.

the planets are not fixed real numbers or rational numbers.

the chemists knew that and made a very useful law.
elements combine in (fixed proportions.) Approximations.

Starlord wrote:
> I didn't say there was something special about that, I just said that the
> planets didn't line up, that the closes would be a grouping of them. If
> you've been on S.A.A. for any time you should know that I don't say anything
> unless I happen to know about the subject.


> The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond

The problem is similar to relative atomic mass.
There isn't an exact lowest common multiple.
where carbon atom is a standard of 12 units.


"In the Planets' case, all planets complete nearly
a whole no. orbits in 500 Earth years."


Better than Titus//-Bode's Law????
Donald S. McDonald.
THIs is just so easy to remember. HOORAY! MNEMONICs
> (enzed = nz)



  
Date: 01 Nov 2006 22:11:59
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: how often planets Line Up? 500 years//one zodiac sign?


The planets never truly line up, it's a simple deal that not all of the 8
planets will ever be in the right place at the right time for that to
happen.


--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond

Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html


<don.lotto@paradise.net.nz > wrote in message
news:1162435932.236284.157040@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//
> WITHIN ONE ZODIAC SIGN e.g.
>




 
Date: 02 Nov 2006 04:34:08
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: how often planets Line Up? 500 years//one zodiac sign?


Dennis:

He's a LOON. Forget him. NO matter how much explaining you try to do,
he/she/it will NEVER, ever get it--it would be like trying to explain
physics to DannyBoy Min or Ed Coalhead. ;-)


Starlord wrote:
> The planets never truly line up, it's a simple deal that not all of the 8
> planets will ever be in the right place at the right time for that to
> happen.
>
>
> --
> The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
>
> Telescope Buyers FAQ
> http://home.inreach.com/starlord
> Sidewalk Astronomy
> www.sidewalkastronomy.info
> The Church of Eternity
> http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
>
>
> <don.lotto@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
> news:1162435932.236284.157040@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//
> > WITHIN ONE ZODIAC SIGN e.g.
> >



  
Date: 02 Nov 2006 09:56:30
From: Joe S.
Subject: Re: how often planets Line Up? 500 years//one zodiac sign?



"RMOLLISE" <rmollise@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1162470848.761437.253550@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Dennis:
>
> He's a LOON. Forget him. NO matter how much explaining you try to do,
> he/she/it will NEVER, ever get it--it would be like trying to explain
> physics to DannyBoy Min or Ed Coalhead. ;-)


Or, as my old Granddaddy would say: "Like showing a wristwatch to a hawg."





>
>
> Starlord wrote:
>> The planets never truly line up, it's a simple deal that not all of the 8
>> planets will ever be in the right place at the right time for that to
>> happen.
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
>>
>> Telescope Buyers FAQ
>> http://home.inreach.com/starlord
>> Sidewalk Astronomy
>> www.sidewalkastronomy.info
>> The Church of Eternity
>> http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
>>
>>
>> <don.lotto@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
>> news:1162435932.236284.157040@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> > how often does the planets Line Up? 500 years//
>> > WITHIN ONE ZODIAC SIGN e.g.
>> >
>




 
Date: 02 Nov 2006 12:41:15
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: how often planets Line Up? 500 years//one zodiac sign?



Joe S. wrote:

>
>
> Or, as my old Granddaddy would say: "Like showing a wristwatch to a hawg."
>
>


Thanks! I'm gonna remember that one! :-)