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Date: 12 Aug 2006 09:33:27
From: Lumpy Darkness
Subject: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth reading in them? I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything?
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 15:33:34
From: Darian
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth > reading in them? > > I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy > magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? I've subscribed to Sky & Telescope since Nov. 1969. I still remember the cover had something to do with the construction of Kitt Peak. I have subscribed to Astronomy, as well as Amateur Astronomy, in the past. I also had a subscription to the Amateur Telescope Makers Journal, as well as The Strolling Astronomer(ALPO journal). As far as S&T, I think the articles on telescope construction are very worthwhile, & I do enjoy some of the reviews. I usually subscribe to 3 years at a time.
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 21:49:10
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth > reading in them? > > I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy > magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? > I've been a subscriber to Sky & Telescope for about 30 years... It continues to be a very good resource for amateur astronomy.
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 20:07:01
From: Chris L Peterson
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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On 12 Aug 2006 09:33:27 -0700, "Lumpy Darkness" <darkness.lumpy@gmail.com > wrote: >Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth >reading in them? S&T, to which I've subscribed for many years. In some ways it has improved over the years, in others it hasn't, but I still really enjoy reading it. Mercury, the journal of the Astronomical Society of the Pacific. IMO this is the best general astronomy magazine currently being published. All the articles are interesting and have a high technical level without being difficult. It also has a strong focus on astronomy education and outreach, something many amateurs are interested and involved in. This magazine alone is well worth the price of ASP membership. Various professional journals, but I don't think that's really what the original question was looking for. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 13:41:47
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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As I don't belong to a club and what astronomy news I get either comes from S.A.A., e-mail lists I'm on or the magazines I can get. I get Astronomy mag right here in town up at the supermarket magazine rack, S&T I use to get down at Wal-mart on my once a month trip to it to get a few things, only the last 3 times I've been there, there has been NO S&T on their magazine rack. I got a S&T in the mail last month, but I think it was one of those things magazine companys do, send out a copy to someone on a list of address and see if they'll subscribe. That might happen if and when I get this trailer all repaired, right now I have to not only get the snow white to do the roof, but before that I've got to pay the $105.00 fee for the tags and transfer of the trailer. So I will stick to getting Astronomy here at the supermarket, it comes in within 10 days of the first and I do read it from cover to cover, make notes of coming sky events and then once I'm done with it, give it to someone when I'm up at the corner. -- The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond Telescope Buyers FAQ http://home.inreach.com/starlord Sidewalk Astronomy www.sidewalkastronomy.info Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net In Garden Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden Blast Off Online Gift Shop http://www.cafepress.com/starlords Astro Blog http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 12:56:40
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Willie R. Meghar wrote: The 'secret' selling of S&T > (not long before my subscription expired) failed to swing the balance > toward renewing. > Secret to whom? How was/is it more secret than any other business deal? I think it's been pretty much common knowledge for qutie some time. Anyway...what do _I_ read? Sky and Telescope. Always have, always will. I've been reading it every month for the last 41 years. I am not kiddin' when I say I'm as thrilled to see a new issue in the front hall now as I was way back when I snatched those big manila envelopes from my parents' mailbox. Astronomy. I still subscribe, but it's not really much my cup of tea anymore. It is a professionally done magazine with _some_ good material (mainly Phil Harrington). Mostly, and for a number of years now, it's been more a "Discover" for astronomy than a magazine aimed at "working" amateurs. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I look at it for Phil's column and articles and the ads. That is about it. A boon to the bored airport newstand browser. The current issue is probably the best I've seen from Astronomy in a long time, I will say. Night Sky. The best new astronomy magazine to come along in ages. Yeah, it's supposedly aimed at novices, but it is very well done and always has some stuff that will be of interest to observers of _all_ levels. The Sky at Night. Patrick Moore's magazine. Maybe a few rough edges, but getting better all the time. Like many, many UK magazines, it comes with a CD (wonder why U.S. mags haven't picked up on that?) containing a video of the latest 30 minute Sky at Night TV episode, often a vintage show, shareware astronomy programs, and more. I really like the entire package. Astronomy Now. 'Bout like it's always been; not too good, not too bad. I pick it up occasionally. Amateur Astronomy Magazine. It's not really fair to judge this with the glossy pro-zines, but it stands up fairly well if you like dobs. The Reflector. Looks better and more professional all the time. It could be expanded beyond being _just_ a news-zine for the AL, but it does that very well. APJ. The Department gets a copy and I enjoy reading those articles I can understand (IOW, a quick read for me most of the time). ;-) Peace, Rod Mollise Author of: Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope and The Urban Astronomer's Guide <http://skywatch.brainiac.com/astroland > The Annual SCT User Imaging Contest is Underway! <http://www.rothritter.com/contest/2006/ >
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 12:37:04
From: Willie R. Meghar
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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"Lumpy Darkness" wrote: >Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth >reading in them? I *subscribed* to S&T for many (somewhere in the neighborhood of 30) years. Off and on I've had subscriptions to Astronomy. Recently (within the past year) both subscriptions expired and I could not find a good enough reason to renew either. The 'secret' selling of S&T (not long before my subscription expired) failed to swing the balance toward renewing. Part of my problem is the perceived loss of the old, traditional eye to eyepiece with pencil on paper 'imagining' coverage. As a low-tech visual amateur using relatively small telescopes beneath a relatively dark sky, I don't feel that the magazines devote enough coverage to my interests. I've never liked the practice of the September issue coming out in the beginning of August. It's rather like having to go back to last month's issue to see what's happening in the current month. Sure, it's easy to deal with; but I never liked it. >I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy >magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? I suppose this depends on your specific interests. The magazines attempt to devote small amounts of space to a large number of interests in an effort to cater to the largest number of readers. In this process some of the readers don't end up with enough of what they want. Information on anything dramatic or new in the sky and accessible to amateur equipment tends to be easy to come by via the Internet in a more timely manner than is possible in the printed magazines. IMO, you're probably not missing anything too terribly important or enjoyable despite the fact that the magazines employ many good and very talented individuals. Willie R. Meghar
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 19:13:37
From: David G. Nagel
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Willie R. Meghar wrote: > "Lumpy Darkness" wrote: > > >>Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth >>reading in them? > > > I *subscribed* to S&T for many (somewhere in the neighborhood of 30) > years. Off and on I've had subscriptions to Astronomy. Recently > (within the past year) both subscriptions expired and I could not find > a good enough reason to renew either. The 'secret' selling of S&T > (not long before my subscription expired) failed to swing the balance > toward renewing. > > Part of my problem is the perceived loss of the old, traditional eye > to eyepiece with pencil on paper 'imagining' coverage. As a low-tech > visual amateur using relatively small telescopes beneath a relatively > dark sky, I don't feel that the magazines devote enough coverage to my > interests. > > I've never liked the practice of the September issue coming out in the > beginning of August. It's rather like having to go back to last > month's issue to see what's happening in the current month. Sure, > it's easy to deal with; but I never liked it. > Don't blame any publication for the mismatch between the date of issue and the date issued. It is a requirement of the United States Postal Service that each publication have a date of issue printed on the cover. A month is considered to be 4 weeks by the USPS resulting in issues issued towards the end of the year coming out in the preceding month by the calendar. Remember they are to government and are here to insure that you are not cheated out of your monthly publication. Dave N BTW: I don't receive any astronomy mags in the mail. I support my local news stand (extremely well). > >>I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy >>magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? > > > I suppose this depends on your specific interests. The magazines > attempt to devote small amounts of space to a large number of > interests in an effort to cater to the largest number of readers. In > this process some of the readers don't end up with enough of what they > want. > > Information on anything dramatic or new in the sky and accessible to > amateur equipment tends to be easy to come by via the Internet in a > more timely manner than is possible in the printed magazines. > > IMO, you're probably not missing anything too terribly important or > enjoyable despite the fact that the magazines employ many good and > very talented individuals. > > Willie R. Meghar
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 22:25:47
From: William Hamblen
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:13:37 -0500, "David G. Nagel" <nagel@core.com > wrote: >Don't blame any publication for the mismatch between the date of issue >and the date issued. It is a requirement of the United States Postal >Service that each publication have a date of issue printed on the cover. >A month is considered to be 4 weeks by the USPS resulting in issues >issued towards the end of the year coming out in the preceding month by >the calendar. Also, the date displayed on the magazine is usually the date the news agent takes out the old issue and puts in the new issue. He want to get the September issues out on the first of August. The date that goes on the magazine isn't what affects how current the content of the magazine is. Editorial content still has to be created, the books made up and printed, sent from the printers to the distributors, and sent from the distributors to the news stands. Then the magazines sit around for another 30 days before the last one is sold. Bud -- The night is just the shadow of the Earth.
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 22:48:01
From: Marty
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Sky & Telescope. I've only been subscribing since '75, but I've always enjoyed it. I don't devour the issues as thoroughly as I used to, spending more time on the internet, but I still like reading something off paper now and then. I've saved 'em all, 'cause they're also fun to look back on. I'll occasionally buy an Astronomy off the rack, but very seldom. I subscribed for maybe a year or two back when it was new, but I made my choices and stuck with S&T. Marty
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 12:24:56
From: Arnold
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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>>> Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth >>> reading in them? I have been subscribing to S&T and Astronomy for the last 5 or 6 years. Both magazines cover the monthly happenings and the usual columns. I like Astronomy's focus on theoretical cosmology and S&T's hard-core observing articles. If I had to choose only one, it would be S&T but as long as I can afford it, I'll keep on buying both. I don't want to miss anything! -- 25° 45' S 28° 12' E GMT+2 Join the Planetary Society http://www.planetary.org
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 10:13:09
From: atasselli@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth > reading in them? > > I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy > magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? Nothing. All the saved money would easily toward a pair of decent EPs, if anything. Andrea T.
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 10:15:04
From: Mij Adyaw
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Astronomy and Sky and Telescope. <atasselli@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1155402789.778876.52110@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > Lumpy Darkness wrote: >> Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth >> reading in them? >> >> I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy >> magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? > > Nothing. All the saved money would easily toward a pair of decent EPs, > if anything. > > Andrea T. >
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Date: 13 Aug 2006 00:20:24
From: Candian Lurker
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Sky and Telescope - excellent magazine in my view Lumpy Darkness wrote: > Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth > reading in them? > > I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy > magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything?
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Date: 13 Aug 2006 18:45:52
From: Darian
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > So, my real question was what exactly are the contents that keep you > subscribed, and which magazines are they in? > > Thanks, Lumpy, Occasionally SKy & Telescope will have an interesting article about research, in various wavelengths, regarding the center of the Milky Way. I find that particularly interesting. I enjoy their coverage of planetary exploration. I like scanning over the ads. As I mentioned, articles pertaining to optical fabrication & various aspects of telescope building interest me. Mr. Wood's articles about lunar observing, I regularly look over. I still enjoy getting the magazine every month, basically just to find out what is new.
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Date: 13 Aug 2006 13:31:43
From: Lumpy Darkness
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth > reading in them? Thanks to everyone that responded. I'm not sure my question was answered though. A few postings talked specifics - ATM articles, etc., another saying the Reflector is better than ever, and AA Magazine is good if you're into big Dobs.... but many just said in different ways that they've subscribed for 35 years to S&T, and it is a good resource. The last mag I subscribed to was S&T. I liked the deep sky articles, which I heard they've gone away from (?). I'd cut them out and file them for when I was out with my scope observing. I would occasionaly read an article about some of the science, some of which was quite good, some, kinda boring. The ATM stuff was okay, but seemed to be retweaking things that already worked very well, or were kind of interesting solutions that were rather impractical - somewhat Rube Goldberg-ish. So, I gave up on it. The advertisements were okay, I'd always glance at those. Much of the observing (I am a visual observer) seemed dumbed down - which I think eventually resulted in Night Sky Magazine - more introductory - and I understand that is done as there are many more people "getting into" the hobby than stay in it - and sales matter, of course. But it left me uninterested. That's not intended as a knock on the writers, S&T has some excellent contributors. It was the content that I found eventually missing the mark for my tastes. So, my real question was what exactly are the contents that keep you subscribed, and which magazines are they in? Thanks,
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 00:25:05
From: David Knisely
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Lumpy Darkness posted: > The last mag I subscribed to was S&T. I liked the deep sky articles, > which I heard they've gone away from (?). Not that I am aware of. They have established a couple of "levels" for these. The basic level is covered each month by Sue French's "Deep-Sky Wonders", with some additional object-specific articles by various authors on a somewhat irregular basis. Clear skies to you. -- David W. Knisely KA0CZC@navix.net Prairie Astronomy Club: http://www.prairieastronomyclub.org Hyde Memorial Observatory: http://www.hydeobservatory.info/ ********************************************** * Attend the 13th Annual NEBRASKA STAR PARTY * * July 23-28, 2006, Merritt Reservoir * * http://www.NebraskaStarParty.org * **********************************************
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 20:24:52
From: Brian Tung
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth > reading in them? > > I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy > magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? I subscribe to Sky and Telescope and to its sister publication, Night Sky. In the parent magazine, I like reading about anything to do with amateur optics, practice or theory. I also like reading the reviews, the news notes, the astrophysics articles, and the various observing articles. That wide gamut probably explains why I'm still subscribing to it. :) As far as Night Sky is concerned, I'm always curious to see how old familiar topics are explained to the beginner (looking for new tricks to add to my bag), and Night Sky is a good place to look for those. I occasionally buy an issue of Astronomy magazine, if there's some article in there that looks particularly intriguing. It was such an instance (the December 1997 issue of Astronomy) that led to my returning to amateur astronomy after a long absence. I don't think you're missing anything as such, since you can get most of what you can find in Sky and Telescope on the Web, but you do get some vetting (remember Leif Robinson's parting shot?) and they do collect everything inside a convenient cover. -- Brian Tung <brian@isi.edu > The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/ Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/ The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/ My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.html
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 08:28:30
From: laura halliday
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth > reading in them? > > I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy > magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? I don't subscribe to any, but buy Sky & Telescope every month at the news stand. I also look through, and occasionally buy, Night Sky, Sky at Night (http://www.skyatnightmagazine.com), and Ciel et Espace (http://www.cieletespace.fr/). The only magazine I actually subscribe to at the moment is New Scientist (http://www.newscientist.com). Which often has material of astronomical interest. Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte
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Date: 15 Aug 2006 20:15:38
From: PR Hobson
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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laura halliday wrote: > > I also look through, and occasionally buy, Night Sky, Sky at > Night (http://www.skyatnightmagazine.com), and Ciel et > Espace (http://www.cieletespace.fr/). > > The only magazine I actually subscribe to at the moment > is New Scientist (http://www.newscientist.com). Which often > has material of astronomical interest. > > Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre > Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..." > ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte > i) Sky & Telescope every month ii) BAA journal bi-monthly (subscription of course) iii)Astronomie (excellent in my view with good comparative equipment reviews) whenever I am in France/Switzerland. I think it better than Ciel et Espace iv)Temmon Guide (can't really READ this sadly) about twice per year v)Occasionally I have bought an Italian magazine but I cannot find a copy to tell you its name! P Hobson
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 10:04:16
From: Rich
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth > reading in them? > > I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy > magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? None anymore. They are untimely in terms of news and even product advertising, which was their primary function, has been usurped by the internet in terms of detail and speed. I keep hoping they come up with lightweigh reading panels that could be carried, read in bed, etc, and we could just download the magazines.
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 09:35:06
From: Lumpy Darkness
Subject: Re: Which astronomy magazines do you read?
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Rick Evans wrote: > The easiest way for you to know is to read and judge for yourself. After several replies here on s.a.a., I went to the SkyPub website and found there is a table of contents for the two most recent editions. I can tell from that. I've found this thread helpful in that it reminded me of some publications I'd forgotten about, and identified a few I was unaware of. Thanks to all!
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 16:07:48
From: Rick Evans
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"Lumpy Darkness" <darkness.lumpy@gmail.com > wrote in message news:1155400407.831453.301930@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I read both S&T and Astronomy. > Do you subscribe to them? No. I borrow them from the library. > If so, what in particular do you find worth reading in them? General astronomy and astrophysics related news. Overview articles of theories. Historical and astro- archaelogical articles such as those by E.C. Krupp. > Am I missing anything? The easiest way for you to know is to read and judge for yourself. -- Rick Evans ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lat +42° 11' 07" Lon -71° 04' 35" ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.chempensoftware.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://mysite.verizon.net/hiltonevans33050/astroimaging/astroimaging.htm
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 14:12:52
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Brian Tung wrote: >you do get > some vetting (remember Leif Robinson's parting shot?) Could you please elaborate on that for those of us who missed it? Thanks.
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 14:12:20
From: Brian Tung
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Allison Kirkpatrick wrote (asking about Leif Robinson's "parting shot"): > Could you please elaborate on that for those of us who missed it? In his last (or one of his last) editorial columns, he talked about the advance of the amateur astronomy community. One aspect he talked about was the advent of Internet resources, such as Usenet. I don't remember if he called Usenet out for special mention, but he characterized "us" as unreliable almost without redemption. Of course, Sky and Telescope shortly thereafter hired Tony Flanders. :) -- Brian Tung <brian@isi.edu > The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/ Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/ The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/ My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.html
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Date: 16 Aug 2006 14:08:11
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy > magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? Sadly, neither is worth reading anymore, unless, perhaps, you have just developed an interest in the hobby. Astronomy Magazine was a nice publication during its first few years, but began to drop off in quality around 1980 or so. The articles during the early years were often lengthy and quite comprehensive, though even then there was a tendency to devote too much space to photographs and artwork. Sky & Telescope was an outstanding hobbyist publication through at least the 1960s, 1970s, and 1980s, with an excellent group of columnists that included (among others) Walter Scott Houston, George Lovi, John Bortle, and David Levy. It was always geared more towards the somewhat more advanced amateur observer, with coverage of occultations, comets, variable stars, etc., that were rarely mentioned in Astronomy. There were also many articles about building and modifying telescopes, but even Astronomy did a pretty good job on ATM back then. S&T declined precipitously during the early 1990s, which is when I cancelled my subscription. I occasionally pick up both and glance through them at the bookstore, but I can see that the quality has never been lower, there is little to distinguish the two from each other, and I am missing nothing by not subscribing - in fact, looking at S&T almost brings tears to my eyes. :-(
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 02:52:55
From: Dave Mitsky
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth > reading in them? > > I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy > magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? "Sky & Telescope" is still a fine publication after all these years. "Astronomy" has been at times a bit too "pop" cosmology oriented but as Rod said Phil Harrington's articles are always worthwhile. "Amateur Astronomy" is the magazine that has closest ties to the amateur community As an Astronomical League member, I also receive "The Reflector". Dave Mitsky
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Date: 18 Aug 2006 02:51:30
From: Dave Mitsky
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Lumpy Darkness wrote: > Do you subscribe to them? If so, what in particular do you find worth > reading in them? > > I have not subscribed to either of the two well known US astronomy > magazines for several years now. Am I missing anything? "Sky & Telescope" is still a fine publication after all these years. "Astronomy" has been at times a bit too "pop" cosmology oriented but as Rod said Phil Harrington's articles are always worthwhile. "Amateur Astronomy" is the magazine that has closest ties to the amateur community As an Astronomical League member, I also receive "The Reflector". Dave Mitsky
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