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Date: 01 Oct 2006 19:34:23
From: Sgr A*
Subject: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

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FOR OVER HALF a century, hard-line Anti-Christian Atheists
have strictly enforced their monopoly over America's public
schools, courtrooms, and all public places in all 50 States.

Like Ann Coulter has recently reiterated, they've used their
public schools as their State Churches, and their Atheistic
Liberal public school teachers as their State Clergy, and
they've used their public school textbooks as their State
Bibles, all to indrinate America's children into their
rabidly intolerant & bigoted State Religion of hard-line,
left-wing, Anti-American, Anti-Christian Liberal Atheism.
And Yes, over the decades this has gotten worse and worse,
and America has suffered the baneful consequences thereof...

But since our Republican-dominated U.S. Supreme Court shall
soon overturn every left-wing Liberal Atheist decision ever
to be handed down from the formerly Liberal-controlled U.S.
Supreme Court, the Liberal Atheists are beginning to see the
long-overdue end to their draconian brainwashing of America's
children. In other words, the dark days of the Liberal-Atheist
monopoly is about to reach its bitter--and most welcome--end...

And what *REALLY* scares the Hell out of the Liberal Atheists,
is the imminent superimposition of the non-Atheistic theory of
'Intelligent Design', or ID, right over the top of the Liberal-
Atheist orthodox theory of 'Evolution'--the gospel 'According
to Charles Darwin'. And as with any theory, Intelligent Design
shall forever evolve and expand, being tested and refined over
time. It will expand to include all branches of Science, which
itself will be forever evolving and expanding--*all* under the
rubric umbrella of Intelligent Design, which will open the door
to eventual inclusion and integration in ALL branches of Science.

You see, that'll force these cowardly Atheists to seek refuge
in their foxholes, rather than tolerate non-Atheist theories,
views, observations, experiments, developments, implementation,
opinions, commentaries, textbooks, teachings etc. ad infinitum,
from inclusion in every public school in all 50 States bar none.

Thus those Atheists who refuse to get with the Program will soon
find themselves out of a job. They'll either tolerate our theory
of ID to be taught alongside their (flimsy) theory of Evolution,
or they'll be *unemployable* in our Republican-dominated public
schools, courtrooms, etc. That makes us non-Atheists very happy!
^^^^
We IDers invite the Atheists to continue to teach their theory
of Evolution in our puclic schools and universities, which will
eventually include the theory of ID in every textbook, classroom
and courtroom in the country bar none. Evolution is a theory that
many people believe, and so should be included in our curriculum.

You see, *unlike* the Atheists, we non-Atheists believe in law-
abiding freedom of speech and law-abiding freedom of religion,
even tolerating the oppressive religion of Liberal Atheism, i.e.
as long as its followers aren't seriously violating any laws of
the land. And that's what separates the Atheists from everybody
else, since Atheists are intolerant and bigoted against all other
religious beliefs, most especially against Biblically-supported
Judeo-Xian beliefs! Liberal Atheists *HATE* Judeo-Xians most of
all. Of course, the Liberal Atheists will deny this, but we know
it is factual by the public record which proves beyond refutation
that the Liberal Atheists have *consistently* opposed, oppressed
and banned all non-Atheist theories, views, beliefs, etc. from
being taught in America's public schools, i.e. ever since 1947.

And that's fine. They'll each reap their just reward, especially
once they pass through Plovton-Hades' one-way door. But once our
theory of ID gets imposed by federal law into America's schools,
and courtrooms, and universities etc., that's when many of the
die-hard Liberal Atheists will commence to leaping like demon-
possessed lemmings off the Whites Cliffs of Dover, because they
have never been forcibly challenged (at gunpoint, if necessary)
to defend their beliefs, opinions, theories, etc. in the public
classrooms, or in their textbooks. That's about to change...and
that's what scares the *HELL* out of the Liberal Atheists! :-D

Enjoy!
Daniel Joseph Min

*Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books:
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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Date: 01 Oct 2006 21:45:52
From: Tedd Jacobs
Subject: courtesy please. was: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

is it too much to ask that people *think* before replying to garbage?

i. if it smells like shit, it probably is shit. leave it alone.
ii. if the shit is relevent to a *particular* group, post to that group
*only*.
iii. instead of propagating shit by replying to every group the f-ups are
set to, stfu.
iiii. most intelligent people have kill-files, most of the people who have
kill-files do not appreciate those who, by way of propagating, continue the
spreading of shit by replying, thereby circumventing everyone elses k-files
and posting shit to off topic groups.

in a nutshell: show some common sense or at least some common courtesy.
everytime you guys reply you help spread what he saying cross-posted to half
a dozen off-topic groups, which is what he wants.

Date: 02 Oct 2006 12:13:18
From: Bryan
Subject: Re: courtesy please. was: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Thanks for the message and I totally agree. What is more amazing is that
some of the more intelligent SAA members that consistently make significant
contributions to this forum seem to lack the intellectual discipline to
refrain from responding to the garbage. I guess it shows that IQ and common
sense are not necessarily related.

Bryan

"Tedd Jacobs" <TJacobs@mail.boisestate.edu > wrote in message
news:efq23302jcb@enews4.newsguy.com...
> is it too much to ask that people *think* before replying to garbage?
>
> i. if it smells like shit, it probably is shit. leave it alone.
> ii. if the shit is relevent to a *particular* group, post to that group
> *only*.
> iii. instead of propagating shit by replying to every group the f-ups are
> set to, stfu.
> iiii. most intelligent people have kill-files, most of the people who
> have kill-files do not appreciate those who, by way of propagating,
> continue the spreading of shit by replying, thereby circumventing everyone
> elses k-files and posting shit to off topic groups.
>
> in a nutshell: show some common sense or at least some common courtesy.
> everytime you guys reply you help spread what he saying cross-posted to
> half a dozen off-topic groups, which is what he wants.
>

Date: 01 Oct 2006 17:01:04
From: Cam Jones
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Werewolfy wrote:
> Mike wrote:
> > That is true.
>
> Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
>
> Werewolfy

Uhhhhhh...you call him mad...by the way, the full moon is coming soon,
according to my astronomy charts...

Date: 01 Oct 2006 22:25:59
From: John Lemke
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

"Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net > wrote in message
news:1159747264.619872.40270@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> Werewolfy wrote:
>> Mike wrote:
>> > That is true.
>>
>> Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
>>
>> Werewolfy
>
> Uhhhhhh...you call him mad...by the way, the full moon is coming soon,
> according to my astronomy charts...

In that case I'd suggest you stay indoors.

Date: 02 Oct 2006 16:55:54
From: mukyuk
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Date: 01 Oct 2006 15:54:53
From: hhc314@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Mr. Min,

I''m old enough to remember when the passage "under God" was inserted
in the pledge of allegance. I was quite young at the time, but deeply
resented this instrusion by religous zealots into what was a purely
patriotic gesture of national loyalty. I then did, and still today,
consider this to have been done in extremely poor judgement, and I am a
Christian.

I would very much like to see the pledge of allegance restored to its
history text.

Now with respect to Ann Coulter, I am very much a respector of her
right wing political viewpoint, but when she begins to comment about
Darwin from a very ignorant perspective, I would suggest that in this
area she is operation far outide of here area of expertise, and likely
should have taken more science courses as part of her education.

Perpaps the element of Darwin that both you and Ann have evidently
missed, is that it focuses on the concept of 'Natural Selection. We
now are well aware of the many causes of genetic mutation (while
perhaps not all of them). As most people understand these can arise
from localized chemical effects, radiation, and potentially many other
causes. I'm sure that both you and Ann are familiar with 2 headed frog,
6 toed cats, and babies formed with such gross genetic deformities that
they were unable to live, or lived as cripples for at least a shot
time. Tragic, right, but do you seriously believe that this was God's
will, or the result of accidental things that came as a natural
consequence of the worlds that He created, which includes both
chemicals, radioactivity, cosmic rays, and carcinogens. These were the
God the Creator's tools, simply as Henry Ford employed machine tools to
build the cars that he created. It is not clear to me why so many of
you creationists zealots don't recognize this important point, as make
the blasphemous assumption that God the Almighty was so incredibly
stupid that he didn't employ the many tools (which He Himself created
to accomplishish his works). Dhuh!

Now getting back to Darwin, who had no knowledge of RDNA, the
double-helix or anything that came even close. Darwin simply observed
an document the Principle of Natural Selection, which in simplified
terms means that the success of a random mutation is likely to survice
and multiply itself only if it lives long enough to achieve
respoductive maturity. Darwin never stated that this was the source of
life, only that the higher orders of life on the planet had evolved to
the status which they now occupt due to that combination of genetic
mutation and Natural Selection. Actulally, there is no reason to
believe that Darwin even was aware the random mutations that take place
in nature, and focused himself on the concept of Natural Selection.

Possibly much of this is going over your head, but that's as simplified
as I can make of Darwin's discovery. Note that I don't refer to it as
a theory, but as a discovery, simply because that's what it was.
Darwin, like Einstein, observed thing that man had always oberved but
looked at them from a very different perspective. Darwin gave to
mankind Natural Selection of random mutations, while Einstein gave to
us the Theory of Relativity (which is no longer a theory), a proven
explanation for the Photo-Electric Effect, and the relationship between
mass and energy later demonstrated by the experiments of Hann and
Strassman, and later the atomic bomb.

Min, if you prefer to dwell in darkness and superstitious beliefs
that's your personal option. I prefer to exercise the intellectual gift
that God the Creator gave to me, and as a Chistian to fully exploit His
manifold gifts of intelligence and scientific curiousity to better
understand the clues that he provided us with of the world in which we
exist.

Finally, I could never figure out guys like you. Why waste your life in
ignorance when there are so many mysteries out there waiting to be
discovered and explained?

Harry C.

Sgr A* wrote:
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>
> FOR OVER HALF a century, hard-line Anti-Christian Atheists
> have strictly enforced their monopoly over America's public
> schools, courtrooms, and all public places in all 50 States.
>
> Like Ann Coulter has recently reiterated, they've used their
> public schools as their State Churches, and their Atheistic
> Liberal public school teachers as their State Clergy, and
> they've used their public school textbooks as their State
> Bibles, all to indrinate America's children into their
> rabidly intolerant & bigoted State Religion of hard-line,
> left-wing, Anti-American, Anti-Christian Liberal Atheism.
> And Yes, over the decades this has gotten worse and worse,
> and America has suffered the baneful consequences thereof...
>
> But since our Republican-dominated U.S. Supreme Court shall
> soon overturn every left-wing Liberal Atheist decision ever
> to be handed down from the formerly Liberal-controlled U.S.
> Supreme Court, the Liberal Atheists are beginning to see the
> long-overdue end to their draconian brainwashing of America's
> children. In other words, the dark days of the Liberal-Atheist
> monopoly is about to reach its bitter--and most welcome--end...
>
> And what *REALLY* scares the Hell out of the Liberal Atheists,
> is the imminent superimposition of the non-Atheistic theory of
> 'Intelligent Design', or ID, right over the top of the Liberal-
> Atheist orthodox theory of 'Evolution'--the gospel 'According
> to Charles Darwin'. And as with any theory, Intelligent Design
> shall forever evolve and expand, being tested and refined over
> time. It will expand to include all branches of Science, which
> itself will be forever evolving and expanding--*all* under the
> rubric umbrella of Intelligent Design, which will open the door
> to eventual inclusion and integration in ALL branches of Science.
>
> You see, that'll force these cowardly Atheists to seek refuge
> in their foxholes, rather than tolerate non-Atheist theories,
> views, observations, experiments, developments, implementation,
> opinions, commentaries, textbooks, teachings etc. ad infinitum,
> from inclusion in every public school in all 50 States bar none.
>
> Thus those Atheists who refuse to get with the Program will soon
> find themselves out of a job. They'll either tolerate our theory
> of ID to be taught alongside their (flimsy) theory of Evolution,
> or they'll be *unemployable* in our Republican-dominated public
> schools, courtrooms, etc. That makes us non-Atheists very happy!
> ^^^^
> We IDers invite the Atheists to continue to teach their theory
> of Evolution in our puclic schools and universities, which will
> eventually include the theory of ID in every textbook, classroom
> and courtroom in the country bar none. Evolution is a theory that
> many people believe, and so should be included in our curriculum.
>
> You see, *unlike* the Atheists, we non-Atheists believe in law-
> abiding freedom of speech and law-abiding freedom of religion,
> even tolerating the oppressive religion of Liberal Atheism, i.e.
> as long as its followers aren't seriously violating any laws of
> the land. And that's what separates the Atheists from everybody
> else, since Atheists are intolerant and bigoted against all other
> religious beliefs, most especially against Biblically-supported
> Judeo-Xian beliefs! Liberal Atheists *HATE* Judeo-Xians most of
> all. Of course, the Liberal Atheists will deny this, but we know
> it is factual by the public record which proves beyond refutation
> that the Liberal Atheists have *consistently* opposed, oppressed
> and banned all non-Atheist theories, views, beliefs, etc. from
> being taught in America's public schools, i.e. ever since 1947.
>
> And that's fine. They'll each reap their just reward, especially
> once they pass through Plovton-Hades' one-way door. But once our
> theory of ID gets imposed by federal law into America's schools,
> and courtrooms, and universities etc., that's when many of the
> die-hard Liberal Atheists will commence to leaping like demon-
> possessed lemmings off the Whites Cliffs of Dover, because they
> have never been forcibly challenged (at gunpoint, if necessary)
> to defend their beliefs, opinions, theories, etc. in the public
> classrooms, or in their textbooks. That's about to change...and
> that's what scares the *HELL* out of the Liberal Atheists! :-D
>
> Enjoy!
> Daniel Joseph Min
>
> *Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books:
> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
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Date: 01 Oct 2006 18:04:59
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Dear hhc314, You are wong on one point, the 6 (or more) toed cat is a
natural mution of a gene. I am a cat breeder and whole my breed of cat is
not known to carry that gene, if I was to cross breed with a cat that has
the gene, my line would then carry it. But that would be against the
breeders code for Japanese Bobtail breeders and I happen to be the oldest
active JBT breeder in the USA. As it is, I have a stray rescurded female cat
that I saved and she is a polodacyal cat having 6 toes on her front paws/
BTW, there is a 2nd side to that same gene, as on that side, the cat can
only have a split set of two claws, which thankfully is not seen at all. But
this gene is a natural gene as they have found cats mummafied that had the 6
toes and there's more fussial remains that show it too. It is not seen in
the big cats very offen, but has be found on some of the big wild cats in
ages past.
The kinked tail factor of the JBT breed is a natural gene too. So don't
talk about something you know nothing about, as that puts you into the very
same boat you put those others in.

Akumaizer Cattery JBT's since 1974.

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<hhc314@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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> Mr. Min,

> 6 toed cats,

Date: 02 Oct 2006 04:27:44
From: Chris L Peterson
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

On Sun, 1 2006 18:04:59 -0700, "Starlord"
<starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info > wrote:

>Dear hhc314, You are wong on one point, the 6 (or more) toed cat is a
>natural mution of a gene...

Dennis-

What's the difference between a "natural mutation" and a mutation
induced by one of the things Harry mentioned? Yes, many cats carry a
gene for polydactyly; the original mutation may well have been caused by
radiation, a chemical, or something else. The gene persists because it
doesn't carry with it a significant penalty (although there is some
penalty, as evidenced by your breeding rules for the JBT).

Outside of a few lab experiments, in cats, all genetic modifications
have been natural (and originally accidental). Some have persisted
because they are beneficial or harmless, and others (even bad ones) have
persisted because of unnatural selection by breeders.

I don't think there was anything inaccurate in Harry's comments about
Darwinism.

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

Date: 01 Oct 2006 23:48:06
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

As it is classed as a mutation of a normal gene, and because it's been found
in cat bones that date into and past the last ice age, if it was caused by
something like radation, it had to be like comic as it was around long
before humans enetered the 20th century and got atomic factors online. Also,
most mutations go only ONE way, the polydactyly gene has two ways to go, it
can bring the extra toes (I've seen one that had a whole secong claw on each
foot totaly useable), and the 2nd way it'll cause a cleft foot, having just
two toes forming what looks like some kind of bird of pray claw and the two
cases of that I've head of the cat did not live very long.

As for the breeding rules of the JBT breeders, the JBT came from Japan, we
have records of it as old as 1,000AD and being that for a long time it was
only raised by the Lords over there, they used a Breeding program to control
the colors they got, and unlike some of the other cat breeds in the show
rings that got started with two breeds to make one new breed, we have
agreeded that we will NOT cross the JBT with any other breed so that we can
have pure JBT lines and have nothing else showing up. There's been no sign
of the polydactyl gene either, but there are many genes we are working with,
it was a matting of TWO Akumaizer JBT's that came up with the first longhair
JBT's and now they are showable too. With JBT's coming from the far northen
island of Hakaidio(sp?) they carry the longhair gene.

My line of JBT's have gone to many places overseas and way down south too, I
found about two months ago a JBT breeder in Russia and they have my JBT
lines in their cats backgrounds. It's can also be noted that the factor of
genes that show up as kinked tails ONLY comes the area of
Japan,Thailand,China, etc. that it never showed up in the Europian breeds
until one major breed of cat (Pointed ones) where crossed with other breeds
in the early 1800's, that when the kicked tails factor showed up in those
eur. breeds.

I've spent many long hours reading about the history of cats worldwide and
what some of them carry or don't carry. I've not been to a show in a long
time, but when ever I can get my cars windshield fixed and I can find a cat
show within 100 miles of me, I'll be back in the show rings with my JBT's.
At one time in the 80's there never was a show held in S.Calif that I
didn't show up in with my JBT's, and that included
CFA,TICA,UCF,ACA,ACC,ACFA, some of which have died away.

--
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"Chris L Peterson" <clp@alumni.caltech.edu > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 2006 18:04:59 -0700, "Starlord"
> <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote:
>
>>Dear hhc314, You are wong on one point, the 6 (or more) toed cat is a
>>natural mution of a gene...
>
> Dennis-
>
> What's the difference between a "natural mutation" and a mutation
> induced by one of the things Harry mentioned? Yes, many cats carry a
> gene for polydactyly; the original mutation may well have been caused by
> radiation, a chemical, or something else. The gene persists because it
> doesn't carry with it a significant penalty (although there is some
> penalty, as evidenced by your breeding rules for the JBT).
>
> Outside of a few lab experiments, in cats, all genetic modifications
> have been natural (and originally accidental). Some have persisted
> because they are beneficial or harmless, and others (even bad ones) have
> persisted because of unnatural selection by breeders.
>
> I don't think there was anything inaccurate in Harry's comments about
> Darwinism.
>
> _________________________________________________
>
> Chris L Peterson
> Cloudbait Observatory
> http://www.cloudbait.com

Date: 02 Oct 2006 14:16:02
From: Chris L Peterson
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

On Sun, 1 2006 23:48:06 -0700, "Starlord"
<starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info > wrote:

>As it is classed as a mutation of a normal gene, and because it's been found
>in cat bones that date into and past the last ice age, if it was caused by
>something like radation, it had to be like comic as it was around long
>before humans enetered the 20th century and got atomic factors online...

When you see polydactyly or syndactyly in cats, it is very unlikely that
any mutation is involved. There are a number of genes in cats, both
dominant and recessive, that can produce these conditions. These variant
genes (which as "normal" and "natural" as any other) were the product of
mutations millennia ago. All genes are the product of mutation at some
point. These mutations are caused by errors during gene assembly, or by
genetic damage from chemicals, radiation, or other external sources.
Chemicals and radiation capable of producing genetic damage are far more
likely to be natural than they are to be man-made. It was a ancient
mutation that created the bobtail gene, too.

For the most part, polydactyly in cats is considered survival neutral,
which explains why these genes have survived so long. Once man got
involved, the selection pressures changed. For instance, polydactyl cats
have been historically considered good luck by sailors, so they were
selectively bred. As a result, they are common in many coastal areas
with a history of sailing. In this case, the trait has positive survival
value. In other cases- such as your own- it has negative survival value.
If JBT breeders avoid breeding polydactyl cats, and cull or neuter those
that are produced, the gene may die out. Those are examples of
artificial selection, as opposed to natural selection. The driving
forces are different, but the results are the same.

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

Date: 02 Oct 2006 07:59:32
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

There is ZERO record of the polydactyly effect showing up in the aisa cats,
not until they where cross bred with europian cats here in the usa. Just as
the kinked tail had never been seen in eurpian cats until they where mixed
with cats from aisa. And if you where to look at xrays of both aisa cats
and eupian cats you would note that they have followed two ways of
formation. The cats from England,Gemany,etc. ALL have a stocky bone set,
while the ones from aisa show a leaner bone build set. And as the JBT has
been recorded in Japan for ages, even before man started breeding them for
the colors, it's a natural japanese cat, no one knows how the first cats got
to japan, as there's no geo record of dry land between it and the mainland,
the fist cats could have come with the early mankind that got there. But
being an aisa beed it does not carry the polydactyly gene. people have since
the JBT started showing up in the cat show rights have offen mistaken them
for the Mainx cat, but other than being a cat, they are totaly unlike each
other. And the Manx gene can be the fault of dead kittens too. Not so with
the Bobtail gene, which many other asia cats can and offen do carry too.

And don't even start with the color genes, that's another whole ballgame
with the male cat only able to carry one color, red and no other colors.

Yet, the JBT dose not carry the pointed gens set at all either.

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"Chris L Peterson" <clp@alumni.caltech.edu > wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 2006 23:48:06 -0700, "Starlord"
> <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote:
>
>>As it is classed as a mutation of a normal gene, and because it's been
>>found
>>in cat bones that date into and past the last ice age, if it was caused by
>>something like radation, it had to be like comic as it was around long
>>before humans enetered the 20th century and got atomic factors online...
>
> When you see polydactyly or syndactyly in cats, it is very unlikely that
> any mutation is involved. There are a number of genes in cats, both
> dominant and recessive, that can produce these conditions. These variant
> genes (which as "normal" and "natural" as any other) were the product of
> mutations millennia ago. All genes are the product of mutation at some
> point. These mutations are caused by errors during gene assembly, or by
> genetic damage from chemicals, radiation, or other external sources.
> Chemicals and radiation capable of producing genetic damage are far more
> likely to be natural than they are to be man-made. It was a ancient
> mutation that created the bobtail gene, too.
>
> For the most part, polydactyly in cats is considered survival neutral,
> which explains why these genes have survived so long. Once man got
> involved, the selection pressures changed. For instance, polydactyl cats
> have been historically considered good luck by sailors, so they were
> selectively bred. As a result, they are common in many coastal areas
> with a history of sailing. In this case, the trait has positive survival
> value. In other cases- such as your own- it has negative survival value.
> If JBT breeders avoid breeding polydactyl cats, and cull or neuter those
> that are produced, the gene may die out. Those are examples of
> artificial selection, as opposed to natural selection. The driving
> forces are different, but the results are the same.
>
> _________________________________________________
>
> Chris L Peterson
> Cloudbait Observatory
> http://www.cloudbait.com

Date: 02 Oct 09:00:29
From:
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

In article <1159743292.963526.122570@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >,
"hhc314@yahoo.com" <hhc314@yahoo.com > wrote:
>Mr. Min,
>
>I''m old enough to remember when the passage "under God" was inserted
>in the pledge of allegance. I was quite young at the time, but deeply
>resented this instrusion by religous zealots into what was a purely
>patriotic gesture of national loyalty. I then did, and still today,
>consider this to have been done in extremely poor judgement, and I am a
>Christian.

My mother is very religious. She insisted that those words were
always in the allegiance. It's weird how memories forget.

<snip >

/BAH

Date: 03 Oct 2006 13:43:56
From: Eric Chomko
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Sgr A* wrote:
> On 1 2006, "Cam Jones" <onespiritedgal93@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >By the by...Sgr?...You rock my face.
> >
> Admittedly, I had to look that one up. I guess it's a modern
> form of compliment. My humble response is, thanks.

Actually, I think he just called you Medusa...

Eric

>
> >In any event, I believe that this materialistic country shall soon have
> >ID proven due to overwhelming scientific, historical, and logical
> >evidence.
>
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>
> It is a material world to be sure. Some folks, particularly
> the Atheists, etc., are much too worldly and conversely much
> too unspiritual for their own good. But they'll each stumble
> into their foxhole of destiny someday, even if this doesn't
> happen until they're gasping for their last, dying breath.
>
> And you're right. ID will be added to our American public
> school curriculum soon. Old-school Atheists will just have
> to get used to it, else they be replaced with more open-
> minded independent thinkers who are genuinely capable of
> truly independent thought. The Atheists don't like anyone
> questioning their "authority" or "infallibility, after all. :)
>
> Enjoy!
> Daniel
>
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Date: 01 Oct 2006 14:46:46
From: Werewolfy
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Mike wrote:
> That is true.

Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.

Werewolfy

Date: 01 Oct 2006 13:47:05
From: Mike
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Sgr A* wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> FOR OVER HALF a century, hard-line Anti-Christian Atheists
> have strictly enforced their monopoly over America's public
> schools, courtrooms, and all public places in all 50 States.

That is true. They failed in Europe but now they are gaining ground
there.

>
> Like Ann Coulter has recently reiterated, they've used their
> public schools as their State Churches, and their Atheistic
> Liberal public school teachers as their State Clergy, and
> they've used their public school textbooks as their State
> Bibles, all to indrinate America's children into their
> rabidly intolerant & bigoted State Religion of hard-line,
> left-wing, Anti-American, Anti-Christian Liberal Atheism.
> And Yes, over the decades this has gotten worse and worse,
> and America has suffered the baneful consequences thereof...

True, the consequences are evident all over the place. From white colar
crime to school violence. This is what happens when people belive they
control their destiny and materialism prevails.

>
> But since our Republican-dominated U.S. Supreme Court shall
> soon overturn every left-wing Liberal Atheist decision ever
> to be handed down from the formerly Liberal-controlled U.S.
> Supreme Court, the Liberal Atheists are beginning to see the
> long-overdue end to their draconian brainwashing of America's
> children. In other words, the dark days of the Liberal-Atheist
> monopoly is about to reach its bitter--and most welcome--end...

That will not happen overnight. You may see some chaos developing
first.
>
> And what *REALLY* scares the Hell out of the Liberal Atheists,
> is the imminent superimposition of the non-Atheistic theory of
> 'Intelligent Design', or ID, right over the top of the Liberal-
> Atheist orthodox theory of 'Evolution'--the gospel 'According
> to Charles Darwin'. And as with any theory, Intelligent Design
> shall forever evolve and expand, being tested and refined over
> time. It will expand to include all branches of Science, which
> itself will be forever evolving and expanding--*all* under the
> rubric umbrella of Intelligent Design, which will open the door
> to eventual inclusion and integration in ALL branches of Science.

ID is the only sensible approach to cosmology and science.

[snip]

Mike

Date: 02 Oct 2006 19:53:42
From: bad madison
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Nothing worries atheists you cum wad!!

Date: 02 Oct 2006 09:15:51
From: Mike
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

mukyuk wrote:
> "Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr> wrote in message
> news:1159777069.412368.31060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Cam Jones wrote:
> >> Werewolfy wrote:
> >> > Mike wrote:
> >> > > That is true.
> >> >
> >> > Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
> >> >
> >> > Werewolfy
> >>
> >> Uhhhhhh...you call him mad...by the way, the full moon is coming soon,
> >> according to my astronomy charts...
> >
> > Any astrologer can tell you there is a full moon every month. It is the
> > Will of God.
> >
>
> That's not entirely true. The full moon appears once every 29.53 days.
> Sometimes there are two full moons in one month. It is possible to have a
> month without a full moon, but this is rare and can only occur in February.
> You have to wait until February 2066 for the next month without a full moon.
> (I guess we are all going to miss that one!)

That's more precise and any astrologer working with the Ptolemaic
geocentric system will agree with you.

Mike

>
>
>
>
> > By the way, the moon was supposed to be at a maximum distance of about
> > 285,000 Km away from Earth, which is the minimum distance for orbital
> > stability (sphere of influence) but it is at about 385,000 Km. Thus,
> > the Sun-Earth-Moon system is fairly unstable and can result in an
> > eventual departure of the moon from earth's orbit.
> >
> > No more full moons. I can't wait to see the romantic kind looking for
> > the alternative.
> >
> > Mike
> >

Date: 02 Oct 2006 16:25:29
From: mukyuk
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

"Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr > wrote in message
news:1159805751.461094.31770@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> mukyuk wrote:
>> "Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr> wrote in message
>> news:1159777069.412368.31060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > Cam Jones wrote:
>> >> Werewolfy wrote:
>> >> > Mike wrote:
>> >> > > That is true.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad
>> >> > Min.
>> >> >
>> >> > Werewolfy
>> >>
>> >> Uhhhhhh...you call him mad...by the way, the full moon is coming soon,
>> >> according to my astronomy charts...
>> >
>> > Any astrologer can tell you there is a full moon every month. It is the
>> > Will of God.
>> >
>>
>> That's not entirely true. The full moon appears once every 29.53 days.
>> Sometimes there are two full moons in one month. It is possible to have a
>> month without a full moon, but this is rare and can only occur in
>> February.
>> You have to wait until February 2066 for the next month without a full
>> moon.
>> (I guess we are all going to miss that one!)
>
> That's more precise and any astrologer working with the Ptolemaic
> geocentric system will agree with you.
>

Of course it depends on other factors too, such as the observers coordinates
....

> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > By the way, the moon was supposed to be at a maximum distance of about
>> > 285,000 Km away from Earth, which is the minimum distance for orbital
>> > stability (sphere of influence) but it is at about 385,000 Km. Thus,
>> > the Sun-Earth-Moon system is fairly unstable and can result in an
>> > eventual departure of the moon from earth's orbit.
>> >
>> > No more full moons. I can't wait to see the romantic kind looking for
>> > the alternative.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>

Date: 02 Oct 2006 11:18:56
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

astrologers are worthless.

--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond

Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
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http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html

"Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr > wrote in message
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>

Date: 02 Oct 2006 07:03:50
From: Mike
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Eugene Griessel wrote:

[snip]
>
> Society exists only as a mental concept; in the real world there
> are only individuals.

If you postulate that everything is a mental concept then the above
strawman is useless. I mean when you look at a nice behind you are
turned on by its shape alone and not by the "real" material it is made
of, particles, gluons, leptons, bosons and quarks, etc.

Mike

Date: 02 Oct 2006 22:01:18
From: Eugene Griessel
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

"Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr > wrote:

>
>Eugene Griessel wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>
>> Society exists only as a mental concept; in the real world there
>> are only individuals.
>
>If you postulate that everything is a mental concept then the above
>strawman is useless. I mean when you look at a nice behind you are
>turned on by its shape alone and not by the "real" material it is made
>of, particles, gluons, leptons, bosons and quarks, etc.

Must be hell to be illiterate. Shame.

Eugene L Griessel

There are none so creative as a government statistician.

Date: 02 Oct 2006 01:26:18
From: Werewolfy
Subject: Re: courtesy please. was: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Tedd Jacobs wrote:
> is it too much to ask that people *think* before replying to garbage?

Ahhh. The voice of sanity.

Couldn't agree with you more, Tedd. This lunatic feeds from posters, as
a leech feeds from it's victim.

I concur. Deny him..starve the thing to death.

Werewolfy

Date: 02 Oct 2006 01:17:49
From: Mike
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Cam Jones wrote:
> Werewolfy wrote:
> > Mike wrote:
> > > That is true.
> >
> > Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
> >
> > Werewolfy
>
> Uhhhhhh...you call him mad...by the way, the full moon is coming soon,
> according to my astronomy charts...

Any astrologer can tell you there is a full moon every month. It is the
Will of God.

By the way, the moon was supposed to be at a maximum distance of about
285,000 Km away from Earth, which is the minimum distance for orbital
stability (sphere of influence) but it is at about 385,000 Km. Thus,
the Sun-Earth-Moon system is fairly unstable and can result in an
eventual departure of the moon from earth's orbit.

No more full moons. I can't wait to see the romantic kind looking for
the alternative.

Mike

Date: 02 Oct 2006 07:36:59
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Instead of some god, I would say the earth moon system might have come via
Eternity.

--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond

Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
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http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html

"Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr > wrote in message
news:1159777069.412368.31060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Cam Jones wrote:
>> Werewolfy wrote:
>> > Mike wrote:
>> > > That is true.
>> >
>> > Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
>> >
>> > Werewolfy
>>
>> Uhhhhhh...you call him mad...by the way, the full moon is coming soon,
>> according to my astronomy charts...
>
> Any astrologer can tell you there is a full moon every month. It is the
> Will of God.
>
> By the way, the moon was supposed to be at a maximum distance of about
> 285,000 Km away from Earth, which is the minimum distance for orbital
> stability (sphere of influence) but it is at about 385,000 Km. Thus,
> the Sun-Earth-Moon system is fairly unstable and can result in an
> eventual departure of the moon from earth's orbit.
>
> No more full moons. I can't wait to see the romantic kind looking for
> the alternative.
>
> Mike
>

Date: 02 Oct 2006 14:52:41
From: mukyuk
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

"Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr > wrote in message
news:1159777069.412368.31060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
> Cam Jones wrote:
>> Werewolfy wrote:
>> > Mike wrote:
>> > > That is true.
>> >
>> > Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
>> >
>> > Werewolfy
>>
>> Uhhhhhh...you call him mad...by the way, the full moon is coming soon,
>> according to my astronomy charts...
>
> Any astrologer can tell you there is a full moon every month. It is the
> Will of God.
>

That's not entirely true. The full moon appears once every 29.53 days.
Sometimes there are two full moons in one month. It is possible to have a
month without a full moon, but this is rare and can only occur in February.
You have to wait until February 2066 for the next month without a full moon.
(I guess we are all going to miss that one!)

> By the way, the moon was supposed to be at a maximum distance of about
> 285,000 Km away from Earth, which is the minimum distance for orbital
> stability (sphere of influence) but it is at about 385,000 Km. Thus,
> the Sun-Earth-Moon system is fairly unstable and can result in an
> eventual departure of the moon from earth's orbit.
>
> No more full moons. I can't wait to see the romantic kind looking for
> the alternative.
>
> Mike
>

Date: 02 Oct 2006 15:05:47
From: mukyuk
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

"mukyuk" <mukyuk@mukyuk.com > wrote in message
news:ZI9Ug.87133$R63.21713@pd7urf1no...
>
> "Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr> wrote in message
> news:1159777069.412368.31060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> Cam Jones wrote:
>>> Werewolfy wrote:
>>> > Mike wrote:
>>> > > That is true.
>>> >
>>> > Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
>>> >
>>> > Werewolfy
>>>
>>> Uhhhhhh...you call him mad...by the way, the full moon is coming soon,
>>> according to my astronomy charts...
>>
>> Any astrologer can tell you there is a full moon every month. It is the
>> Will of God.
>>
>
> That's not entirely true. The full moon appears once every 29.53 days.
> Sometimes there are two full moons in one month. It is possible to have a
> month without a full moon, but this is rare and can only occur in
> February. You have to wait until February 2066 for the next month without
> a full moon. (I guess we are all going to miss that one!)

Actually, my calculations were a bit wrong. Feb 1999 and Feb 2037 have no
full moons.

>
>
>
>> By the way, the moon was supposed to be at a maximum distance of about
>> 285,000 Km away from Earth, which is the minimum distance for orbital
>> stability (sphere of influence) but it is at about 385,000 Km. Thus,
>> the Sun-Earth-Moon system is fairly unstable and can result in an
>> eventual departure of the moon from earth's orbit.
>>
>> No more full moons. I can't wait to see the romantic kind looking for
>> the alternative.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>

Date: 02 Oct 2006 01:08:51
From: Mike
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Werewolfy wrote:
> Mike wrote:
> > That is true.
>
> Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
>
> Werewolfy

I agree with the general position expressed, not with any Mad Min.

Only by understanding the Will of the Creator can man understand his
world.

Mike

Date: 02 Oct 2006 02:07:30
From: Mij Adyaw
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

There are times when Danny Joe is taking his anti-psychotic meds and he
actually makes sense like a good conservative Republican.

>> Mike wrote:
>> > That is true.
>>
>> Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
>>
>> Werewolfy
>
> I agree with the general position expressed, not with any Mad Min.

Date: 02 Oct 2006 23:16:53
From: benlizross
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Mij Adyaw wrote:
>
> There are times when Danny Joe is taking his anti-psychotic meds and he
> actually makes sense like a good conservative Republican.

I must have missed those... Ah! I see now. In these lucid moments he
actually posts to appropriate newsgroups!

>
> >> Mike wrote:
> >> > That is true.
> >>
> >> Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
> >>
> >> Werewolfy
> >
> > I agree with the general position expressed, not with any Mad Min.

Date: 02 Oct 2006 08:18:36
From: Eugene Griessel
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

"Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr > wrote:

>
>Werewolfy wrote:
>> Mike wrote:
>> > That is true.
>>
>> Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
>>
>> Werewolfy
>
>I agree with the general position expressed, not with any Mad Min.
>
>Only by understanding the Will of the Creator can man understand his
>world.

Yes but how can we understand the will of Atum?

Eugene L Griessel

Society exists only as a mental concept; in the real world there
are only individuals.

Date: 02 Oct 2006 17:36:19
From: Mike
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Starlord wrote:
> Not only are astrologers worthless, but so is the whole stinking cap filled
> area of they are in. The planets and stars have a grand total of ZERO effect
> on what happens in your life and those that belive in that crap need to "Get
> a Life" because they sure in hell don't have one.

Astrology does not care how the effect occurs, only about the
consequences. It's like physics that does not care what the world is
made of but only how to model the phenomena.

Still, every president of yours or prime minister (doesn't matter where
you live) took astrologer's opinion very seriously. Never asked for
yours.

Mike

>
>
> --
> The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
>
> Telescope Buyers FAQ
> http://home.inreach.com/starlord
> Sidewalk Astronomy
> www.sidewalkastronomy.info
> The Church of Eternity
> http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
>
>
> "Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr> wrote in message
> news:1159816682.818505.189750@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Starlord wrote:
> >> astrologers are worthless.
> >

Date: 02 Oct 2006 17:57:16
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

No but they wanted my vote and there have been ones that did NOT ask for any
astrologer's opinion because they already knew that crap is worthless.

And there is ZERO EFFECT OF ANY KIND from the stars and planets.

Now you can join Dim the Min and others like him down in the Cuber Black
Hole.

--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond

Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html

"Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr > wrote in message
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>
> Starlord wrote:
>> Not only are astrologers worthless, but so is the whole stinking cap
>> filled
>> area of they are in. The planets and stars have a grand total of ZERO
>> effect
>> on what happens in your life and those that belive in that crap need to
>> "Get
>> a Life" because they sure in hell don't have one.
>

Date: 02 Oct 2006 17:30:44
From: Mike
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Eugene Griessel wrote:
> "Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr> wrote:
>
> >
> >Eugene Griessel wrote:
> >
> >[snip]
> >>
> >> Society exists only as a mental concept; in the real world there
> >> are only individuals.
> >
> >If you postulate that everything is a mental concept then the above
> >strawman is useless. I mean when you look at a nice behind you are
> >turned on by its shape alone and not by the "real" material it is made
> >of, particles, gluons, leptons, bosons and quarks, etc.
>
> Must be hell to be illiterate. Shame.

It is never late to go back to school and learn the difference between
a strawman and a red herring.

Mike

>
> Eugene L Griessel
>
> There are none so creative as a government statistician.

Date: 02 Oct 2006 15:20:49
From: Shelldigger
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Oh good grief...a Min-ion!

DJM, you find this guy wandering around at the bus station talking to
himself?

This just in from GOD!, DJM and all likeminded moronic lemmings, please
report to nearest bridge and jump.Its a religion thing, you just gotta
believe.

For future reference, dont confuse me with your average athiest. I
wasnt born atheist, I believe I became that way growing up through
life, making observations, asking intelligent questions, and getting no
answers in return that made any sense whatsoever. I dont even really
want to consider myself atheist, I try to keep an open mind, but to
tell the truth I aint buying in to any of the horsecrap out there that
passes for religion, thanks. No amount of rantings from an obviously
insane idiot are going to sway me to believe otherwise. No amount of
conniving by you and your ID propagators is going to fly either, there
are I think, enough rational minded folk out there that can see it as a
very thinly veiled attempt to impose religion into public mainstream.
The day ID gets into schools, Ill home school my kids, the day you and
your ilk come calling to make me a convert, Ill be loaded for bear.

Charles

Date: 02 Oct 2006 13:40:15
From: Eric Chomko
Subject: Re: courtesy please. was: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Bryan wrote:
> Thanks for the message and I totally agree. What is more amazing is that
> some of the more intelligent SAA members that consistently make significant
> contributions to this forum seem to lack the intellectual discipline to
> refrain from responding to the garbage. I guess it shows that IQ and common
> sense are not necessarily related.

The problem with ignoring Min is that he thinks he's right, actually
swears he is. The problem is that if the US did look like his world not
only would we lose our place as leaders of the world in many areas;
we'd sink far and fast to become a Third World nation.

Eric

>
> Bryan
>
> "Tedd Jacobs" <TJacobs@mail.boisestate.edu> wrote in message
> news:efq23302jcb@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > is it too much to ask that people *think* before replying to garbage?
> >
> > i. if it smells like shit, it probably is shit. leave it alone.
> > ii. if the shit is relevent to a *particular* group, post to that group
> > *only*.
> > iii. instead of propagating shit by replying to every group the f-ups are
> > set to, stfu.
> > iiii. most intelligent people have kill-files, most of the people who
> > have kill-files do not appreciate those who, by way of propagating,
> > continue the spreading of shit by replying, thereby circumventing everyone
> > elses k-files and posting shit to off topic groups.
> >
> > in a nutshell: show some common sense or at least some common courtesy.
> > everytime you guys reply you help spread what he saying cross-posted to
> > half a dozen off-topic groups, which is what he wants.
> >

Date: 03 Oct 2006 01:14:27
From: Bryan
Subject: Re: courtesy please. was: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

I agree, but any response to Min (and the other kooks), however logically
presented, will not change their mind. Instead, it verifies to them that an
audience is present that is reading their garbage. Any attention is good
attention.

Bryan

"Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:1159821615.296873.27670@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Bryan wrote:
>> Thanks for the message and I totally agree. What is more amazing is that
>> some of the more intelligent SAA members that consistently make
>> significant
>> contributions to this forum seem to lack the intellectual discipline to
>> refrain from responding to the garbage. I guess it shows that IQ and
>> common
>> sense are not necessarily related.
>
> The problem with ignoring Min is that he thinks he's right, actually
> swears he is. The problem is that if the US did look like his world not
> only would we lose our place as leaders of the world in many areas;
> we'd sink far and fast to become a Third World nation.
>
> Eric
>
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> "Tedd Jacobs" <TJacobs@mail.boisestate.edu> wrote in message
>> news:efq23302jcb@enews4.newsguy.com...
>> > is it too much to ask that people *think* before replying to garbage?
>> >
>> > i. if it smells like shit, it probably is shit. leave it alone.
>> > ii. if the shit is relevent to a *particular* group, post to that
>> > group
>> > *only*.
>> > iii. instead of propagating shit by replying to every group the f-ups
>> > are
>> > set to, stfu.
>> > iiii. most intelligent people have kill-files, most of the people who
>> > have kill-files do not appreciate those who, by way of propagating,
>> > continue the spreading of shit by replying, thereby circumventing
>> > everyone
>> > elses k-files and posting shit to off topic groups.
>> >
>> > in a nutshell: show some common sense or at least some common
>> > courtesy.
>> > everytime you guys reply you help spread what he saying cross-posted to
>> > half a dozen off-topic groups, which is what he wants.
>> >
>

Date: 04 Oct 2006 08:13:38
From: RandyL
Subject: Re: courtesy please. was: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Eric,
Plus, ignoring Danny has no effect on his bullshit output. The guy is
totally insane, and doesn't react like a sane person would. As a matter of
fact, he is incapable of even recognizing that he is totally insane - it's
part of his mental illness. I don't think he really even cares if anyone
responds to his delusional bullshit. The best that we can hope for is that
he gets run over by a bus. A very large, fast-moving bus. Or that he is
finally, and permanently institutionalized.

Randy L.
--
"With no power comes no responsibility."

"Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@verizon.net > wrote in message
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>
>
> The problem with ignoring Min is that he thinks he's right, actually
> swears he is. The problem is that if the US did look like his world not
> only would we lose our place as leaders of the world in many areas;
> we'd sink far and fast to become a Third World nation.
>
> Eric
>
>>

Date: 02 Oct 2006 22:24:10
From: Volker Hetzer
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Sgr A* wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> FOR OVER HALF a century, hard-line Anti-Christian Atheists
> have strictly enforced their monopoly over America's public
> schools, courtrooms, and all public places in all 50 States.
Yes, pity.

> But since our Republican-dominated U.S. Supreme Court shall
> soon overturn every left-wing Liberal Atheist decision ever
> to be handed down from the formerly Liberal-controlled U.S.
> Supreme Court,
Hopefully.

> And what *REALLY* scares the Hell out of the Liberal Atheists,
> is the imminent superimposition of the non-Atheistic theory of
> 'Intelligent Design', or ID,
Please do so, really.
We of the rest of the world are impatiently waiting for your
country's technological and (following that) economical power
to equalize with your medieval world view and ethics in order
to limit the damage you do to the world to a level manageable
by us.

Go on, ban science teaching, tell them climatic disasters
come from too many gays, antibiotic resistance has nothing
to do with evolution and that people should be praying instead
of thinking.

Sgr A*, can we do anything to help you achieve this goal?

Btw, are there any progressive thinking people not feeling
liked in the US anymore?
Why don't you leave? If you want leisure to research, come
to europe, if you want to work really hard and live where
the future is made, go to china. You're welcome everywhere,
that is, apart from your home country obviously.

Volker

Date: 02 Oct 2006 12:18:02
From: Mike
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Starlord wrote:
> astrologers are worthless.

I agree, this is true in all occupations though, most notably with
physicists and economists, the maority are worthless. Educational
system plays with large numbers. The system graduates many with the
hope someone will end up making the breakthrough.

I have met good astrologers who are able to decipher the conficting
signals. A week before 9/11, I was talking to a famous astrologer in my
town and he told me that the Pluto-Saturn opposition that was initiated
that time was a signal for a new world war and order. I almost laughed
but when he explained to me that just before WWII started the same
opposition took place I started thinking seriously about the
differences between good and bad astrologers. He is a good one.

In a Parmenidean block universe predicting the future is possible.
Astrologers try and some of them turn out to be good.

Mike

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> >

Date: 02 Oct 2006 15:10:50
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Not only are astrologers worthless, but so is the whole stinking cap filled
area of they are in. The planets and stars have a grand total of ZERO effect
on what happens in your life and those that belive in that crap need to "Get
a Life" because they sure in hell don't have one.

--
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"Mike" <eleatis@yahoo.gr > wrote in message
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>
> Starlord wrote:
>> astrologers are worthless.
>

Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Date: 03 Oct 2006 11:42:52
From: Paul Schlyter
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

In article <1159870680.737988.309030@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com >,
Martin Brown <

Date: 03 Oct 2006 15:41:22
From: mukyuk
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

"Paul Schlyter" <pausch@saaf.se > wrote in message
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> In article <1159870680.737988.309030@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
> Martin Brown <

Date: 03 Oct 2006 07:27:21
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

That I need not to worry about, as I don't go to bars for any reason, the
only bars I see are those that the store scans when I go shopping at the
super market.

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Date: 03 Oct 2006 13:58:48
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

"Paul Schlyter" <pausch@saaf.se > wrote in message
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Date: 03 Oct 2006 11:11:25
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

"Martin Brown" <

Date: 02 Oct 2006 23:51:13
From: Tedd Jacobs
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries me, not just (The Atheists...)

... is that people *still* cannot exercise some common sense in their cross
posting.

a little simpler maybe;

CHECK YOUR FUCKING CROSSPOSTS BEFORE SENDING.

hth, thanks.

<snip >

Date: 03 Oct 2006 13:32:17
From: hanson
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries me, not just (The Atheists...)

ahahahaha... did somebody crank you? ...or do you do it to yourself?
AHAHAHAHA.....

"Tedd Jacobs" <TJacobs@mail.boisestate.edu > wrote in message
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>
> ... is that people *still* cannot exercise some common sense in their
> cross posting.
>
> a little simpler maybe;
>
> CHECK YOUR FUCKING CROSSPOSTS BEFORE SENDING.
>
> hth, thanks.
>
> <snip>
>

Date: 04 Oct 2006 08:55:58
From:
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Mike wrote:
> Cam Jones wrote:
> > Werewolfy wrote:
> > > Mike wrote:
> > > > That is true.
> > >
> > > Jesus Christ! Someone not only talking too, but agreeing with Mad Min.
> > >
> > > Werewolfy
> >
> > Uhhhhhh...you call him mad...by the way, the full moon is coming soon,
> > according to my astronomy charts...
>
> Any astrologer can tell you there is a full moon every month. It is the
> Will of God.
>
> By the way, the moon was supposed to be at a maximum distance of about
> 285,000 Km away from Earth, which is the minimum distance for orbital
> stability (sphere of influence) but it is at about 385,000 Km. Thus,
> the Sun-Earth-Moon system is fairly unstable and can result in an
> eventual departure of the moon from earth's orbit.
>
> No more full moons. I can't wait to see the romantic kind looking for
> the alternative.
>
> Mike

I generally don't post to these type topics, but I thought I will for
this.

1. Mike, you're a moron.
2. Astrologers are even bigger morons.
3. See #1
4. There is NOT a full moon every month. Some months will have 2 and
some Februarys will have 0. Look at any lunar calendar. It is NOT the
will of god. Its happenstance.
5. See #1 and #3
6. The moon WILL eventually leave its orbit with the earth. But not
for many many millions of years. Well after we're all gone.
7. See #1, #3, #5.

Clear skies,
-Dragan

Date: 04 Oct 2006 23:22:49
From: Frank Glover
Subject: Re: What *REALLY* Worries The Atheists...

Sgr A* wrote:

You scare me...

--

Frank

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