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Date: 27 Oct 2006 08:47:17
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Subject: Watch Mercury Transit the Sun on November 8 Live From Kitt Peak National Observatory
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Contacts:
Douglas Isbell/Robert Wilson
Office of Public Affairs and Educational Outreach
National Optical Astronomy Observatory (NOAO)
Phone: (520) 318-8230
E-mail: disbell@noao.edu or rwilson@noao.edu
Linda Dackman
Exploratorium Public Information Office
Phone: (415) 561-0363
E-mail: lindad@exploratorium.edu
Joshua Chamot
Media Officer for Mathematics and Physical Sciences
National Science Foundation
Phone: (703) 292-7730
E-mail: jchamot@nsf.gov
ober 26, 2006
NOAO: 06-12
WATCH MERCURY TRANSIT THE SUN ON NOVEMBER 8
LIVE FROM KITT PEAK NATIONAL OBSERVATORY
The National Science Foundation's Kitt Peak National Observatory and
the Exploratorium are joining forces to present a live view of an
unusual
celestial event: the transit of planet Mercury across the face of the
Sun,
as seen from Earth.
This five-hour transit occurs on Wednesday, November 8, 2006,
beginning at 12:12 p.m. local MST in Tucson, Arizona (11:12 a.m. PST)
and
ending at 5:10 p.m MST (4:10 p.m. PST).
The coverage from Kitt Peak, broadcast on the Web by a mobile
multimedia
team from the Exploratorium, will include a live image of the transit
as
seen through a white-light filter on a Meade 16-inch telescope operated
by
the national observatory for public outreach, plus live voiceover
commentary at the top of every hour and interviews with astronomers on
Kitt Peak.
For more information and to watch the event live, go to
www.exploratorium.edu/transit
Interviewees from Kitt Peak will include scientist Andrew Potter of
the National Solar Observatory, who will using the transit to make
special
observations of Mercury's thin atmosphere as seen against the known
background composition of the Sun, using the world's largest solar
telescope, the McMath-Pierce Solar Telescope.
"This interesting event reminds us that we live in a vast
three-dimensional universe with two planets, Mercury and Venus, that
orbit
the Sun inside Earth's orbit," says Mark Giampapa, deputy director of
the
National Solar Observatory, which operates the McMath-Pierce 1.6-meter
telescope for the National Science Foundation.
Extensive information on the transit and the time of "contact events"
within it is available from NASA at
sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/OH/transit06.html
A sample of what the transit will look like can be seen at
www.noao.edu/image_gallery/html/im0900.html
The last Mercury transit occurred in 2003. The next such transit
does not occur until May 9, 2016. An even more rare Venus transit of
the
Sun occurs in June 2012.
The Kitt Peak Visitor Center will host special hands-on activities
and provide telescopes for safe solar viewing by the public starting at
Noon on November 8, at a cost of $5 for adults and $2 for children over
12.
The mission of the Kitt Peak Visitor Center is to inspire a sense of
wonder and awe about the Universe, through its exhibits, tours and
public
programs. For more information about the Kitt Peak Visitor Center,
visit
www.noao.edu/outreach or call the Visitor Center at (520) 318-8726.
Part of the National Optical Astronomy Observatory (NOAO), Kitt Peak
National Observatory is operated by the Association of Universities for
Research in Astronomy Inc. (AURA) under a cooperative agreement with
the
National Science Foundation. It is located 55 miles southwest of
Tucson,
Arizona, in the Quinlan Mountains on the Tohono O'odham Nation.
The McMath-Pierce telescope on Kitt Peak is part of the National
Solar Observatory, also operated by AURA for NSF.
The Exploratorium, located in San Francisco, is a public educational
institution for peoples of all ages. This innovative museum of science,
technology, art, and human perception provides for the general public,
even those with the most limited scientific knowledge, an experience
enabling them to understand science and nature.
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Date: 27 Oct 2006 10:19:50
From: oriel36
Subject: Re: Watch Mercury Transit the Sun on November 8 Live From Kitt Peak National Observatory
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The true description of the Nov 8th event that is acceptable to
heliocentric astronomers is that the faster Mercury,in an inner orbital
circuit,is overtaking the slower moving orbital motion of the Earth.
Describing the motion of Mercury across the face of the Sun from Earth
is hardly an astronomical description but unfortunately this view is
the only one acceptable to guys raised on celestial sphere geometry.
Rarer than the event itself is a person who can truly appreciate in the
original way the first heliocentric astronomers looked out on the
orbital motion of the Earth and the other planets ,while the Mercury
event is astronomically more fleeting that the graceful sweep of the
outer planets as the faster Earth overtakes them,the result is an
appreciation of human reasoning -
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0112/JuSa2000_tezel.gif
How many of you will look out on the motion of Mercury on the 8th and
see the orbital motion of Mercury begin to overtake the Earth's orbital
motion with the stationary Sun at the center of it all and as a
backdrop -
http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar
Of course,being bound to Newton and celestial sphere geometry you deny
that planetary orbital motions are seen directly from an orbitally
moving Earth ,the price of your celestial sphere peep show based on the
motion of Mercury across the Sun is that the rest of humanity is denied
a proper appreciation of the event .
baalke@earthlink.net wrote:
> Contacts:
> Douglas Isbell/Robert Wilson
> Office of Public Affairs and Educational Outreach
> National Optical Astronomy Observatory (NOAO)
> Phone: (520) 318-8230
> E-mail: disbell@noao.edu or rwilson@noao.edu
>
> Linda Dackman
> Exploratorium Public Information Office
> Phone: (415) 561-0363
> E-mail: lindad@exploratorium.edu
>
> Joshua Chamot
> Media Officer for Mathematics and Physical Sciences
> National Science Foundation
> Phone: (703) 292-7730
> E-mail: jchamot@nsf.gov
>
> ober 26, 2006
> NOAO: 06-12
>
> WATCH MERCURY TRANSIT THE SUN ON NOVEMBER 8
> LIVE FROM KITT PEAK NATIONAL OBSERVATORY
>
> The National Science Foundation's Kitt Peak National Observatory and
> the Exploratorium are joining forces to present a live view of an
> unusual
> celestial event: the transit of planet Mercury across the face of the
> Sun,
> as seen from Earth.
>
> This five-hour transit occurs on Wednesday, November 8, 2006,
> beginning at 12:12 p.m. local MST in Tucson, Arizona (11:12 a.m. PST)
> and
> ending at 5:10 p.m MST (4:10 p.m. PST).
>
> The coverage from Kitt Peak, broadcast on the Web by a mobile
> multimedia
> team from the Exploratorium, will include a live image of the transit
> as
> seen through a white-light filter on a Meade 16-inch telescope operated
> by
> the national observatory for public outreach, plus live voiceover
> commentary at the top of every hour and interviews with astronomers on
> Kitt Peak.
>
> For more information and to watch the event live, go to
> www.exploratorium.edu/transit
>
> Interviewees from Kitt Peak will include scientist Andrew Potter of
> the National Solar Observatory, who will using the transit to make
> special
> observations of Mercury's thin atmosphere as seen against the known
> background composition of the Sun, using the world's largest solar
> telescope, the McMath-Pierce Solar Telescope.
>
> "This interesting event reminds us that we live in a vast
> three-dimensional universe with two planets, Mercury and Venus, that
> orbit
> the Sun inside Earth's orbit," says Mark Giampapa, deputy director of
> the
> National Solar Observatory, which operates the McMath-Pierce 1.6-meter
> telescope for the National Science Foundation.
>
> Extensive information on the transit and the time of "contact events"
> within it is available from NASA at
> sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/OH/transit06.html
>
> A sample of what the transit will look like can be seen at
> www.noao.edu/image_gallery/html/im0900.html
>
> The last Mercury transit occurred in 2003. The next such transit
> does not occur until May 9, 2016. An even more rare Venus transit of
> the
> Sun occurs in June 2012.
>
> The Kitt Peak Visitor Center will host special hands-on activities
> and provide telescopes for safe solar viewing by the public starting at
> Noon on November 8, at a cost of $5 for adults and $2 for children over
> 12.
>
> The mission of the Kitt Peak Visitor Center is to inspire a sense of
> wonder and awe about the Universe, through its exhibits, tours and
> public
> programs. For more information about the Kitt Peak Visitor Center,
> visit
> www.noao.edu/outreach or call the Visitor Center at (520) 318-8726.
>
> Part of the National Optical Astronomy Observatory (NOAO), Kitt Peak
> National Observatory is operated by the Association of Universities for
> Research in Astronomy Inc. (AURA) under a cooperative agreement with
> the
> National Science Foundation. It is located 55 miles southwest of
> Tucson,
> Arizona, in the Quinlan Mountains on the Tohono O'odham Nation.
>
> The McMath-Pierce telescope on Kitt Peak is part of the National
> Solar Observatory, also operated by AURA for NSF.
>
> The Exploratorium, located in San Francisco, is a public educational
> institution for peoples of all ages. This innovative museum of science,
> technology, art, and human perception provides for the general public,
> even those with the most limited scientific knowledge, an experience
> enabling them to understand science and nature.
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Date: 29 Oct 2006 01:47:30
From: Internet Banality
Subject: Re: Watch Mercury Transit the Sun on November 8 Live From Kitt Peak
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oriel36 wrote:
> The true description of my psychiatrist is:
> heliocentric Mercury,in an inner orbital
> circuit,is overtaking my psychiatrist
>
> Describing my psychiatrist across the face of the Sun
> is hardly an astronomical description but unfortunately
> the only one acceptable to my psychiatrist.
Take up the mombo.
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Date: 29 Oct 2006 10:11:40
From: oriel36
Subject: Re: Watch Mercury Transit the Sun on November 8 Live From Kitt Peak National Observatory
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Internet Banality wrote:
> oriel36 wrote:
>
> >
> > heliocentric Mercury,in an inner orbital
> > circuit,is overtaking the Earth
> >
> > Describing the motion of Mercury across the face of the Sun
> > is hardly an astronomical description but unfortunately
> > it is the only one availible.
>
> I totally agree on this point and recognise that an enormous amount of work is needed to >clean up the mess created by Newton.Thanks for making the upcoming event of seeing >the orbital motion of Mercury in a new light from an orbitally moving Earth
I wonder how you freaks will pass the day on Nov 8th with your silly
Newtonian idea that planetary motion around the Sun is not seen from
Earth -
"For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes
stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are
always seen direct.." Newton
A rare astronomical event and you not only cannot appreciate it for
what it is but makes sure that it is a non event for the rest of
humanity.
The last time somebody dored a reply of mine I had a ball doing the
same to any poster I thought needed the some touching up to agree with
me.The next time you tare so stupid to put words in my mouth,,I get to
return the favor
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Date: 29 Oct 2006 12:34:21
From: oriel36
Subject: Re: Watch Mercury Transit the Sun on November 8 Live From Kitt Peak National Observatory
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Internet Banality wrote:
> oriel36 wrote:
>
> > The true description of my psychiatrist is:
> > heliocentric Mercury,in an inner orbital
> > circuit,is overtaking my psychiatrist
> >
> > Describing my psychiatrist across the face of the Sun
> > is hardly an astronomical description but unfortunately
> > the only one acceptable to my psychiatrist.
>
> Take up the mombo.
On Nov 8th everyone gets to see where they stand astronomically by the
measure which Kepler used -
To set down in books the apparent paths of the planets [viasplanetarum
apparentes] and the record of their motions is especially the task of
the practical and mechanical part of astronomy; to dis-cover their true
and genuine path [vias vero veras et genuinas] is . . .the task of
contemplative astronomy; while to say by what circle and lines correct
images of those true motions may be depicted onpaper is the concern of
the inferior tribunal of geometers" Kepler
The mechanical part of astronomy records the passage of Mercury across
the face of the Sun and notes when that passage begins and when it
ends.
The inferior tribunal of heliocentric geometers should register the
alignment of the Earth with Mercury before the stationary Sun at the
center -
http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Solar/action?sys=-Si
The contemplative astronomer,,for such were Copernicus and
Kepler,,recognises both the orbital motions of Mercury and the Earth
where the faster Mercury is overtaking the slower orbital motion of the
Earth thereby affirming that planetary motions around the Sun are seen
directly from an orbitally moving Earth.
There is the dull and dismal dominant view which is not supported by
the 3 divisions of astronomy and that is the false Newtonian view -
"For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct, sometimes
stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun they are
always seen direct.." Newton
I do not mind that you plainly dor my words to suit your own stupid
ends ecause Newton did more or less the same thing to the great Western
astronomers,their working methods and their conclusions turning the
noble discipline of astronomy into an exercise in magnification and
linguistic graffittti.
Turn your faces to the ground on Nov 8th or make the effort to
recover the two greatest achievements of Western astronomy,the
heliocentric system and how it was figured out and the timekeeping
adaption to axial rotation at 15 degrees per hour and 24 hours/360
degrees in total.You insult the great Western astronomical tradition
for so long yet in a few hours on a November day,the fleeting motion of
a tiny planet makes a mockery of your Newtonian indrination. which
denies that orbital motions are seen directly from Earth.
You do not insult me,you insult yourselves.
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