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Date: 12 Dec 2006 08:53:52
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Subject: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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(Universe Today) I try not to get involved in political matters, but
sometimes I've just got to take a stand. You might have heard that my
good friend Phil Plait from Bad Astronomy (and co-forum administrator )
is up for a Weblog 2006 award for the best science blog. Unfortunately,
he's up against some ferocious competition, including Pharyngula
http://www.ng2000.com/fw.php?tp=astronomy
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 10:47:25
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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Sorry, I don't read Phil Plait anymore because of his Anti-Christian
viewpoint.
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 20:21:48
From: OG
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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"Patrick Edward Murray" <ed1ward2@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:1166035645.180766.262110@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
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> Sorry, I don't read Phil Plait anymore because of his Anti-Christian
> viewpoint.
>
Is that 'Anti-Christian' as in anti the religion, or Anti-'Christian' as in
anti some of the intolerant bigoted anti-knowledge,anti-humanity
fundamentalists who give my religion a bad name.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 16:34:24
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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Martin that's good:)
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 15:26:40
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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My opinion of course, others can have their own.
Of course I tend to not listen to folks who are blatantly anti
Christian too.
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 00:30:29
From: Martin Potter
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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"Patrick Edward Murray" (ed1ward2@verizon.net) writes:
> My opinion of course, others can have their own.
> Of course I tend to not listen to folks who are blatantly anti
> Christian too.
>
I tend not to listen to anyone who is blatantly anything.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 15:24:24
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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He didn't mention the recent Comet that was naked eye or the
brightening of chi cygni for example and that's only what I remember.
Just another "bogus" professional I'm afraid....not my cup of tea.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 14:20:40
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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And I really have to question just how much of a "Real" Astronomer he
is since I've found him lacking on talking about real time events going
on in the sky like Nova for instance.
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 18:07:24
From: Greg Neill
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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"Patrick Edward Murray" <ed1ward2@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:1166134840.030353.206780@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> And I really have to question just how much of a "Real" Astronomer he
> is since I've found him lacking on talking about real time events going
> on in the sky like Nova for instance.
>
You know something the rest of us don't? Is there
currently a naked eye nova in the sky? Or are you
saying that he doesn't present information the way
they do on Nova on PBS?
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 14:18:27
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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I am a practicing Roman Catholic and he has made some anti Catholic &
Anti Christian statements.
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 01:12:54
From: OG
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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"Patrick Edward Murray" <ed1ward2@verizon.net > wrote in message
news:1166134706.926598.72710@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
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> I am a practicing Roman Catholic and he has made some anti Catholic &
> Anti Christian statements.
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Maybe, I've very little knowledge to base any view on this particular topic.
But, to be honest; as a Christian I find far more offence in some of the
things said by people claiming to be Christian than by anything said by
atheists or believers in other religions. I'm sure it's the same for you.
Owen
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 08:13:10
From: AM
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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OG wrote:
> But, to be honest; as a Christian I find far more offence in some of the
> things said by people
I also agree 100%
The real thing that bothers me, is all the people
who show no tolerance for others here.
--
AM
http://sctuser.home.comcast.net
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 00:09:23
From: Marty
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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The Bad Astronomy site isn't intended to be an "observing" type site.
There is no point in him pointing out present events in the sky, etc,
since this isn't his focus. The purpose of the site is to point out
examples of bad astronomy in the popular press, movies, etc. Since much
of the public gets astronomical information through these types of
sources, this can be very useful information.
No one has to read the site if they feel their religious beliefs
are being threatened.
Marty
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Date: 15 Dec 2006 08:33:58
From: oriel36
Subject: Re: Vote for Bad Astronomy!
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OG wrote:
> "Patrick Edward Murray" <ed1ward2@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:1166134706.926598.72710@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > I am a practicing Roman Catholic and he has made some anti Catholic &
> > Anti Christian statements.
> >
>
> Maybe, I've very little knowledge to base any view on this particular topic.
>
> But, to be honest; as a Christian I find far more offence in some of the
> things said by people claiming to be Christian than by anything said by
> atheists or believers in other religions. I'm sure it's the same for you.
>
> Owen
The problem is not the creationists or the empiricists,the problem is
mediocre Christians who support the basis for these artificial
creation/evolution ,science/religion scenarios.
Any person silly enough to believe that Darwin overturned the idea of
the Earth being created using the Genesis chronology dating the Earth
to 6000 years must live in a cave,the catholic bishop Nicolas
Steno,along with active clergymen in the field of geolgy, created the
geological discipline on the stratification or superposition of
sedimentary layers making the Earth very old -
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/steno.html
As for Copernican heliocentricity,the man could present the arguments
to the Pope who probably had a working knowledge of what was
involved.Copernicus only fear was that less than careful people would
get hold of his arguments -
http://webexhibits.org/calendars/year-text-Copernicus.html
So,those stupid enough to support the fables which go into showing
Christianity in the worst possible light in the fields of geological
and biological evolution or in the field of astronomy will be
confronted with the spectacle of seeing that the original founders were
Christians writing to other Christians involved in the disciplines.
The anti-intuitive empiricist is as narrow as the creationist in coming
to believe what they do but both are probably not as destructive as
those who call themselves Christians while adhering to pure
nonsense.Christianity is where the Infinite and the definite meet in
man and developing intuitive intelligence to recognise Christ and
Christianity can light up natural phenomena in a new way.
Newton was an Arian heretic and it shows in his work,he tried to cast
Jesus in the role of God's moral spokesman and himself as the
'scientific spokesman' hence 'universal laws'.Lurking at the core of
those 'universal laws' is a geometry which would embarrass even the
creationist.
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