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Date: 08 Dec 2006 07:14:12
From: Christian Astronomer
Subject: The Grand Motor


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THINK ABOUT IT. At this writing, Venus' Day December 8th,
2006 AD, there are only 2205 days (i.e. 315 weeks) to go
until Venus' Day December 21st, 2012 anno Domini: That's
barely **six years** away & counting... are you prepared?

Recall that this long-since predicted winter solstice of
December 21st 2012 AD marks the end of one full sabbatic
cycle of Earth's precession, which many millions believe
is directly associated with cataclysmic, yea apocalyptic
earth-changes portending the end of this old empire into
the Second Advent of Christ. This is crucial to remember.

The grand sabbath of great years complete, i.e. at after
the Adamic fall, the New Beginning isn't so far away: at
the Eighth Birth of the Sun-Invincible in the caelestial
"Sacred Tree", or apparent intercept of the galactic and
ecliptic planes at 5 Sagittarius +0 (reference Aldebaran
(15Tau00 -5:28) that's accurate to barely one arcminute!:

8TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
Fri 21 Dec 2012 AD Gregorian
8 Dec 2012 AD Julian
Julian Day 2456283; *1.2.15.0.0.0.0
13.0.0.0.0; 3 Kankin; 4 Ahau
------------------------------------
7TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
Sat 1 Mar 23,615 BC Gregorian
27 Aug 23,615 BC Julian
Julian Day -6903717; *0.19.10.0.0.0.0
-52.0.0.0.0; 3 Kayab; 4 Ahau
------------------------------------
6TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
Sun 10 May 49,242 BC Gregorian
15 May 49,241 BC Julian
Julian Day -16263717; *0.16.5.0.0.0.0
-117.0.0.0.0 ;18 Pop; 4 Ahau
------------------------------------
5TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
Mon 18 Jul 74,869 BC Gregorian
1 Feb 74,867 BC Julian
Julian Day -25623717; *0.13.0.0.0.0.0
-182.0.0.0.0; 18 Zotz; 4 Ahau
------------------------------------
4TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
Tue 26 Sep 100,496 BC Gregorian
21 Oct 100,494 BC Julian
Julian Day -34983717; *0.9.15.0.0.0.0
-247.0.0.0.0; 18 Yaxkin; 4 Ahau
------------------------------------
3RD BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
Wed 4 Dec 126,123 BC Gregorian
9 Jul 126,120 BC Julian
Julian Day -44343717; *0.6.10.0.0.0.0
-312.0.0.0.0; 18 Yax; 4 Ahau
------------------------------------
2ND BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
Thu 12 Feb 151,749 BC Gregorian
28 Mar 151,746 BC Julian
Julian Day -53703717; *0.3.5.0.0.0.0
-377.0.0.0.0; 18 Mac; 4 Ahau
------------------------------------
1ST BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
Fri 22 Apr 177,376 BC Gregorian
14 Dec 177,373 BC Julian
Julian Day -63063717; *0.0.0.0.0.0.0
-442.0.0.0.0; 18 Pax; 4 Ahau
------------------------------------
*calabtun.pictun.baktun.katun.tun.uinal.kin;
*first birth of the sun after tropical years
began circa 200,000 years i.e. four thousand-
hundred vernal and autumnal equinox-times BC.
____________________________________________________

To wit the winter solstice of 2012 is ~11:11:23 UT;
the Sun transits the sacred tree about 16:05 UT, or
just 4 hours & 54 minutes after the winter solstice,
so the meridian of longitude at southing i.e. Earth
facing the Sun will be nearly five hours apart, dep-
ending on which criteria you use. The solar transit
on the sacred tree will occur at around 6:09 PM LMT
if you are viewing from the Great (Alnitak) Pyramid
at 31E09:00 29N58:51. The Sun Pyramid at Teotihuacan
Mexico ~19:44N 98:50W will see solar transit of the
sacred tree about 9:30 AM LMT at southing 12 PM LAT,
with the winter solstice occurring near 4:36 AM LMT.

The whole Earth is part of this geocentric equation
of astrological forces, which I have charted to wit:

Body Caelestial Latitude Velocity
Jupiter : 13Tau55'15" - 0:44'34" -0.1184174
Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" - 5:28'00" alTau <==(prime fiducial)
MeanLilith: 16Tau08'19" - 1:30'18" +0.1108440
Saturn : 13Lib40'52" + 2:18'29" +0.0899011
True Node : 0Sco37'43" + 0:00'00" +0.0230194
Venus : 11Sco36'24" + 1:06'30" +1.2496808
Mercury : 19Sco43'08" + 0:24'24" +1.4795023
Gal.Center: 2Sag03'04" - 5:36'34" SgrA* <==(see **note below)
---------------------------------------------
/SacredTree: 5Sag00'00" + 0:00'00" __________ <==(ancient standard)
\Sun : 5Sag01'12" + 0:00'01" +1.0183180 <==(~00d 01m 12s orb!)
---------------------------------------------
Gal-Ecl : 5Sag13'40" + 0:00'00" __________ <==(modern standard)
Solar Apex: 7Sag20'50" +53:25'58" HerA*
Pluto : 13Sag58'10" + 3:20'43" +0.0351116
Mars : 1Cap26'53" - 1:09'51" +0.7809645
Neptune : 5Aqu50'01" - 0:36'39" +0.0220093
Uranus : 9Pis39'40" - 0:42'46" +0.0068411
Moon : 19Pis15'46" + 3:27'34" +12.267681

**One could argue that /sgrab is more precisely
the local standard of rest, but SgrA* is the
most powerful radio source in the Milky Way.
There're some educational links for this on:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5JGQC72T37293.9512731481@frog.gilgamesh.org
_________________________________________________________

For more detailed information on the Mayan long-count and
precession, see Observing and Predicting Planetary Orbits:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852@twistycreek.com

More details on the amazing precision of the Mayan long-count:
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HRO8N0QP37297.2780208333@frog.gilgamesh.org
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ISN8J0YL37297.8391435185@frog.gilgamesh.org
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=FG9XPVDI37297.9342361111@frog.gilgamesh.org
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=36557ad4d54ea8391d4b1ea6de44e255@aarg.net
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=69b8c9eb2c49a37e12e23bc78af9c36d@aarg.net

etc. etc. etc.

Merry Christmas & Io Saturnalia!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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Date: 08 Dec 2006 09:32:26
From: John Vreeland
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor



Starlord wrote:
> And once more Dim The Min changes handles and trips and falls into the
> crushing forces of the Cyber Black Hole.
>
>

Aha! I should have known that was Min the Mad.

How can someone be a Christian AND an astrologer?

On reflection, I suppose it makes sense if you recognize that astrology
is a terrible sin in Christianity. Seems odd, though.



  
Date: 08 Dec 2006 19:51:19
From: L.A.T.
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor



"John Vreeland" <vreejack@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1165599146.669697.264920@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Starlord wrote:
>> And once more Dim The Min changes handles and trips and falls into the
>> crushing forces of the Cyber Black Hole.
>>
>>
>
> Aha! I should have known that was Min the Mad.
>
> How can someone be a Christian AND an astrologer?
>
> On reflection, I suppose it makes sense if you recognize that astrology
> is a terrible sin in Christianity. Seems odd, though.
Sir Isaac was both.




   
Date: 09 Dec 2006 08:41:49
From: Christian Astronomer
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor


On Fri, 08 Dec 2006, "L.A.T." <tonyt92@yahoo.com > wrote:
>"John Vreeland" <vreejack@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1165599146.669697.264920@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> How can someone be a Christian AND an astrologer?
>> On reflection, I suppose it makes sense if you recognize that astrology
>> is a terrible sin in Christianity. Seems odd, though.
>
>Sir Isaac was both.

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While Newton was certainly brilliant (I devoted two chapters
to him in one of my books), he dabbled in tropical astrology.
He was genius at many things, astrology was not one of them.

Judeo-Xian astrology is specifically *judicial* astrology, as
M. Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, the prophet Daniel, Moses, et al
incomparably gifted and WELL-educated astronomers devoutly
practiced. Most first-century Judeo-Xians were intimately
familiar with judicial astrology, classic mythology, etc.

Only badly-educated mockers mock what they have never studied,
neither understand, much less comprehend & revere religiously.

Merry Christmas & Io Saturnalia!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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Date: 09 Dec 2006 11:44:59
From: richard schumacher
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor



Will you post anything after December 21st, 2012?


 
Date: 08 Dec 2006 08:52:48
From:
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor



Christian Astronomer wrote:
> THINK ABOUT IT.

Why don't you think about giving it a break--like forever.

> At this writing, Venus' Day December 8th,
> 2006 AD, there are only 2205 days (i.e. 315 weeks) to go
> until Venus' Day December 21st, 2012 anno Domini: That's
> barely **six years** away & counting... are you prepared?

Why would I prepare for such a trivial event--and since it is
years into the future, I am sure that you won't go with my first
suggestion and constant remind us of your tirelessness.
<snip crap >
Mitch



 
Date: 08 Dec 2006 07:59:29
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor


And once more Dim The Min changes handles and trips and falls into the
crushing forces of the Cyber Black Hole.


--
There are those who believe that life here, began out there, far across the
universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the
Egyptians, or the Toltechs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may yet be
brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the
heavens.


The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html


"Christian Astronomer" <armageddon@fourth.empire >took a crap while trying
and failing to think.




 
Date: 08 Dec 2006 17:01:41
From: Tom McDonald
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor



RMOLLISE wrote:
> Hi DannyBoy:
>
> Do you promise this will be as accurate as your other
> "predictions"...like your fine work concerning the outcome of the last
> election?
>
> If so, I'd say we've got nothing to worry about.

Hi Rod,

I was worried about the outcome of the last election...until Minimum
Min started posting his predictions.

He leadeth me beside the 'funny' smoke; he restoreth my faith. Yea
though he rant through the valley of the shadow of Madness, I shall
fear no election, for He has promised and He shall Not Deliver, and I
shall dwell in the House (and the Senate) of the Democrats for...well,
a while now.



 
Date: 08 Dec 2006 12:58:28
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor


Hi DannyBoy:

Do you promise this will be as accurate as your other
"predictions"...like your fine work concerning the outcome of the last
election?

If so, I'd say we've got nothing to worry about.

Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of:
Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope
and
The Urban Astronomer's Guide
<http://skywatch.brainiac.com/astroland >


Christian Butthead wrote:
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>
> THINK ABOUT IT...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...



  
Date: 08 Dec 2006 22:07:26
From: Mij Adyaw
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor


Danny Boy is about as accurate as Nancy Leider.

"RMOLLISE" <rmollise@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1165611087.857584.90740@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi DannyBoy:
>
> Do you promise this will be as accurate as your other
> "predictions"...like your fine work concerning the outcome of the last
> election?
>
> If so, I'd say we've got nothing to worry about.
>
> Peace,
> Rod Mollise
> Author of:
> Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope
> and
> The Urban Astronomer's Guide
> <http://skywatch.brainiac.com/astroland>
>
>
> Christian Butthead wrote:
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>
>> THINK ABOUT IT...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...BLAH...
>





 
Date: 08 Dec 2006 12:52:50
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor



Christian Astronomer wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> THINK ABOUT IT. At this writing, Venus' Day December 8th,
> 2006 AD, there are only 2205 days (i.e. 315 weeks) to go
> until Venus' Day December 21st, 2012 anno Domini: That's
> barely **six years** away & counting... are you prepared?
>
> Recall that this long-since predicted winter solstice of
> December 21st 2012 AD marks the end of one full sabbatic
> cycle of Earth's precession, which many millions believe
> is directly associated with cataclysmic, yea apocalyptic
> earth-changes portending the end of this old empire into
> the Second Advent of Christ. This is crucial to remember.
>
> The grand sabbath of great years complete, i.e. at after
> the Adamic fall, the New Beginning isn't so far away: at
> the Eighth Birth of the Sun-Invincible in the caelestial
> "Sacred Tree", or apparent intercept of the galactic and
> ecliptic planes at 5 Sagittarius +0 (reference Aldebaran
> (15Tau00 -5:28) that's accurate to barely one arcminute!:
>
> 8TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
> Fri 21 Dec 2012 AD Gregorian
> 8 Dec 2012 AD Julian
> Julian Day 2456283; *1.2.15.0.0.0.0
> 13.0.0.0.0; 3 Kankin; 4 Ahau
> ------------------------------------
> 7TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
> Sat 1 Mar 23,615 BC Gregorian
> 27 Aug 23,615 BC Julian
> Julian Day -6903717; *0.19.10.0.0.0.0
> -52.0.0.0.0; 3 Kayab; 4 Ahau
> ------------------------------------
> 6TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
> Sun 10 May 49,242 BC Gregorian
> 15 May 49,241 BC Julian
> Julian Day -16263717; *0.16.5.0.0.0.0
> -117.0.0.0.0 ;18 Pop; 4 Ahau
> ------------------------------------
> 5TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
> Mon 18 Jul 74,869 BC Gregorian
> 1 Feb 74,867 BC Julian
> Julian Day -25623717; *0.13.0.0.0.0.0
> -182.0.0.0.0; 18 Zotz; 4 Ahau
> ------------------------------------
> 4TH BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
> Tue 26 Sep 100,496 BC Gregorian
> 21 Oct 100,494 BC Julian
> Julian Day -34983717; *0.9.15.0.0.0.0
> -247.0.0.0.0; 18 Yaxkin; 4 Ahau
> ------------------------------------
> 3RD BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
> Wed 4 Dec 126,123 BC Gregorian
> 9 Jul 126,120 BC Julian
> Julian Day -44343717; *0.6.10.0.0.0.0
> -312.0.0.0.0; 18 Yax; 4 Ahau
> ------------------------------------
> 2ND BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
> Thu 12 Feb 151,749 BC Gregorian
> 28 Mar 151,746 BC Julian
> Julian Day -53703717; *0.3.5.0.0.0.0
> -377.0.0.0.0; 18 Mac; 4 Ahau
> ------------------------------------
> 1ST BIRTH OF THE SUN IN TREE OF LIFE
> Fri 22 Apr 177,376 BC Gregorian
> 14 Dec 177,373 BC Julian
> Julian Day -63063717; *0.0.0.0.0.0.0
> -442.0.0.0.0; 18 Pax; 4 Ahau
> ------------------------------------
> *calabtun.pictun.baktun.katun.tun.uinal.kin;
> *first birth of the sun after tropical years
> began circa 200,000 years i.e. four thousand-
> hundred vernal and autumnal equinox-times BC.
> ____________________________________________________
>
> To wit the winter solstice of 2012 is ~11:11:23 UT;
> the Sun transits the sacred tree about 16:05 UT, or
> just 4 hours & 54 minutes after the winter solstice,
> so the meridian of longitude at southing i.e. Earth
> facing the Sun will be nearly five hours apart, dep-
> ending on which criteria you use. The solar transit
> on the sacred tree will occur at around 6:09 PM LMT
> if you are viewing from the Great (Alnitak) Pyramid
> at 31E09:00 29N58:51. The Sun Pyramid at Teotihuacan
> Mexico ~19:44N 98:50W will see solar transit of the
> sacred tree about 9:30 AM LMT at southing 12 PM LAT,
> with the winter solstice occurring near 4:36 AM LMT.
>
> The whole Earth is part of this geocentric equation
> of astrological forces, which I have charted to wit:
>
> Body Caelestial Latitude Velocity
> Jupiter : 13Tau55'15" - 0:44'34" -0.1184174
> Aldebaran : 15Tau00'00" - 5:28'00" alTau <==(prime fiducial)
> MeanLilith: 16Tau08'19" - 1:30'18" +0.1108440
> Saturn : 13Lib40'52" + 2:18'29" +0.0899011
> True Node : 0Sco37'43" + 0:00'00" +0.0230194
> Venus : 11Sco36'24" + 1:06'30" +1.2496808
> Mercury : 19Sco43'08" + 0:24'24" +1.4795023
> Gal.Center: 2Sag03'04" - 5:36'34" SgrA* <==(see **note below)
> ---------------------------------------------
> /SacredTree: 5Sag00'00" + 0:00'00" __________ <==(ancient standard)
> \Sun : 5Sag01'12" + 0:00'01" +1.0183180 <==(~00d 01m 12s orb!)
> ---------------------------------------------
> Gal-Ecl : 5Sag13'40" + 0:00'00" __________ <==(modern standard)
> Solar Apex: 7Sag20'50" +53:25'58" HerA*
> Pluto : 13Sag58'10" + 3:20'43" +0.0351116
> Mars : 1Cap26'53" - 1:09'51" +0.7809645
> Neptune : 5Aqu50'01" - 0:36'39" +0.0220093
> Uranus : 9Pis39'40" - 0:42'46" +0.0068411
> Moon : 19Pis15'46" + 3:27'34" +12.267681
>
> **One could argue that /sgrab is more precisely
> the local standard of rest, but SgrA* is the
> most powerful radio source in the Milky Way.
> There're some educational links for this on:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=5JGQC72T37293.9512731481@frog.gilgamesh.org
> _________________________________________________________
>
> For more detailed information on the Mayan long-count and
> precession, see Observing and Predicting Planetary Orbits:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852@twistycreek.com
>
> More details on the amazing precision of the Mayan long-count:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=HRO8N0QP37297.2780208333@frog.gilgamesh.org
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=ISN8J0YL37297.8391435185@frog.gilgamesh.org
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=FG9XPVDI37297.9342361111@frog.gilgamesh.org
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=36557ad4d54ea8391d4b1ea6de44e255@aarg.net
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=69b8c9eb2c49a37e12e23bc78af9c36d@aarg.net
>
> etc. etc. etc.
>
> Merry Christmas & Io Saturnalia!
> Daniel Joseph Min
> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
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Date: 09 Dec 2006 01:13:48
From: Autymn D. C.
Subject: Re: The Grand Motor


Christian Astronomer wrote:
> Only badly-educated mockers mock what they have never studied,
> neither understand, much less comprehend & revere religiously.
>
> Merry Christmas & Io Saturnalia!

And you ignor the "goodly"-educated mockers. Kristmas is still a
ripoff of the birthdates of six or so earlier gods. Read my
confutation of your faketh.



 
Date: 08 Dec 2006 22:21:31
From: Autymn D. C.
Subject: There was never a /First/ Advent of Krist (Re: The Grand Motor)


Christian Astronomer wrote:
> THINK ABOUT IT. At this writing, Venus' Day December 8th,
> 2006 AD, there are only 2205 days (i.e. 315 weeks) to go
> until Venus' Day December 21st, 2012 anno Domini: That's
> barely **six years** away & counting... are you prepared?
[delusional bipolar prattel snipped]

All of that Kristledh was ripped off Apollonius. And I rendend the
Baib=F9l-shit thus: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=3DAutymn+Sopranos.

-Aut