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Date: 27 Sep 2006 07:04:03
From:
Subject: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!


I have the Tele Vue hat. I purchased it through Astromart a number of
years ago.

The Tele Vue hat is very well made. All curves seem to be well matched
and the quality of materials and assembly is equal to the vocational
demands for this accessory. With use and over time, the hat will
exhibit some colour around the sweatband, but this does not affect
viewing at all. For those with follicle challenges, the hat has the
added effects of both reducing reflective sky glow at star parties and
insulating your central processing unit. Being fully adjustable the hat
can be used by owners of Newtonians, SCT's and refractors regardless
of their size.

The bill of the hat is well finished and has good solar spectrum cut
off during the day as well as keeping dew off the user's nose at
night.

Eye relief is outstanding! The hat exhibits neither spherical nor
chromatic aberrations. However, coma is possible if the hat is used in
lieu of protective gear during observatory construction.

The best feature of the hat is that it exhibits a good range of motion
both in azimuth and altitude. Care must be taken during positioning
when bill approaches zenith, as the hat becomes very unstable.

Al has worked his magic on this one! One thing to watch out for: the
hat has the strange effect of having others bob their heads up and down
when they see it.

John





 
Date: 27 Sep 2006 10:33:50
From: Davoud
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!


john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca wrote:

> I have the Tele Vue hat. I purchased it through Astromart a number of
> years ago...

Mine came packed with my Tele Vue 'scope. I take it you do not have an
autographed version <http://www.davidillig.com/neaf/index3.html >? And
you wear it in public? Have you no shame?

Davoud

--
usenet *at* davidillig *dawt* com


  
Date: 27 Sep 2006 20:47:03
From: William Hamblen
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!


On 2006-09-27, Davoud <see@below.net > wrote:

> Mine came packed with my Tele Vue 'scope. I take it you do not have an
> autographed version <http://www.davidillig.com/neaf/index3.html>? And
> you wear it in public? Have you no shame?

I got my Tele Vue telescope before they started to include hats.
I guess they are availble as retrofits. Uncle Al did autograph
the instruction manual, however.

Bud



 
Date: 27 Sep 2006 18:48:50
From:
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!



Joe S. wrote:
> <john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:1159365843.603168.198290@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >I have the Tele Vue hat. I purchased it through Astromart a number of
> > years ago.
> >
> > The Tele Vue hat is very well made. All curves seem to be well matched
> > and the quality of materials and assembly is equal to the vocational
> > demands for this accessory. With use and over time, the hat will
> > exhibit some colour around the sweatband, but this does not affect
> > viewing at all. For those with follicle challenges, the hat has the
> > added effects of both reducing reflective sky glow at star parties and
> > insulating your central processing unit. Being fully adjustable the hat
> > can be used by owners of Newtonians, SCT's and refractors regardless
> > of their size.
> >
> > The bill of the hat is well finished and has good solar spectrum cut
> > off during the day as well as keeping dew off the user's nose at
> > night.
> >
> > Eye relief is outstanding! The hat exhibits neither spherical nor
> > chromatic aberrations. However, coma is possible if the hat is used in
> > lieu of protective gear during observatory construction.
> >
> > The best feature of the hat is that it exhibits a good range of motion
> > both in azimuth and altitude. Care must be taken during positioning
> > when bill approaches zenith, as the hat becomes very unstable.
> >
> > Al has worked his magic on this one! One thing to watch out for: the
> > hat has the strange effect of having others bob their heads up and down
> > when they see it.
> >
> > John
> >
>
> If it's not a Tilley, it's not a hat.
> http://www.tilley.com/
>
> Lifetime guarantee. When I lost everything in Hurricane Katrina, I called
> Tilley and they shipped me a new hat, no charge.

I have a Tilley as well. I find it does not reach thermal equilibrium
as well as the Tele Vue hat. Possibly due to it beeing a full flange
design. The retaining straps work well at zenith though.

John



 
Date: 27 Sep 2006 19:43:34
From: Joe S.
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!



<john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca > wrote in message
news:1159365843.603168.198290@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>I have the Tele Vue hat. I purchased it through Astromart a number of
> years ago.
>
> The Tele Vue hat is very well made. All curves seem to be well matched
> and the quality of materials and assembly is equal to the vocational
> demands for this accessory. With use and over time, the hat will
> exhibit some colour around the sweatband, but this does not affect
> viewing at all. For those with follicle challenges, the hat has the
> added effects of both reducing reflective sky glow at star parties and
> insulating your central processing unit. Being fully adjustable the hat
> can be used by owners of Newtonians, SCT's and refractors regardless
> of their size.
>
> The bill of the hat is well finished and has good solar spectrum cut
> off during the day as well as keeping dew off the user's nose at
> night.
>
> Eye relief is outstanding! The hat exhibits neither spherical nor
> chromatic aberrations. However, coma is possible if the hat is used in
> lieu of protective gear during observatory construction.
>
> The best feature of the hat is that it exhibits a good range of motion
> both in azimuth and altitude. Care must be taken during positioning
> when bill approaches zenith, as the hat becomes very unstable.
>
> Al has worked his magic on this one! One thing to watch out for: the
> hat has the strange effect of having others bob their heads up and down
> when they see it.
>
> John
>

If it's not a Tilley, it's not a hat.
http://www.tilley.com/

Lifetime guarantee. When I lost everything in Hurricane Katrina, I called
Tilley and they shipped me a new hat, no charge.





  
Date: 27 Sep 2006 17:42:27
From: Mij Adyaw
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!


I wonder what Oriel would have to say about the Tele Vue hat? We haven't
heard from him in a while and maybe he could chime-in and give us some of
his infinite wisdom. :-)




   
Date: 28 Sep 2006 03:40:44
From: Alan French
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!


"Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com > wrote in message
news:TTESg.2182$tO5.737@fed1read10...
> I wonder what Oriel would have to say about the Tele Vue hat? We haven't
> heard from him in a while and maybe he could chime-in and give us some of
> his infinite wisdom. :-)

Make a little effort to appreciate that the hat's identity as as a seperate
garment, treat the orientation change against the orientation of your head
as a local event with local consequences and above all drop this silly
variable tilting hat orientation with respect to your collar.

Your kind have made a career out of making gorgeous hats obscure and
ridiculous, my turn to present the outlines of something worn on the head
that can be appreciated fairly easily. Even the rabid creationists
understand hats better than you ignorant people.



    
Date: 28 Sep 2006 07:50:07
From: Mij Adyaw
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!


Very well stated! You have learned well and would make Mr Oriel very proud.
Maybe he will chime-in. Lately he has been hanging out in alt.horology.
Paging Mr. Oriel... Oriel36 are you still here?

"Alan French" <adfrenchremoveallthis@nycap.rr.com > wrote in message
news:0vHSg.48434$uH6.12022@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> "Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote in message
> news:TTESg.2182$tO5.737@fed1read10...
>> I wonder what Oriel would have to say about the Tele Vue hat? We haven't
>> heard from him in a while and maybe he could chime-in and give us some of
>> his infinite wisdom. :-)
>
> Make a little effort to appreciate that the hat's identity as as a
> seperate
> garment, treat the orientation change against the orientation of your head
> as a local event with local consequences and above all drop this silly
> variable tilting hat orientation with respect to your collar.
>
> Your kind have made a career out of making gorgeous hats obscure and
> ridiculous, my turn to present the outlines of something worn on the head
> that can be appreciated fairly easily. Even the rabid creationists
> understand hats better than you ignorant people.
>




 
Date: 27 Sep 2006 15:05:25
From:
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!



Alan French wrote:
> <john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:1159365843.603168.198290@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > I have the Tele Vue hat. I purchased it through Astromart a number of
> > years ago.
> >
> > The Tele Vue hat is very well made. All curves seem to be well matched
> > and the quality of materials and assembly is equal to the vocational
> > demands for this accessory. With use and over time, the hat will
> > exhibit some colour around the sweatband, but this does not affect
> > viewing at all. For those with follicle challenges, the hat has the
> > added effects of both reducing reflective sky glow at star parties and
> > insulating your central processing unit. Being fully adjustable the hat
> > can be used by owners of Newtonians, SCT's and refractors regardless
> > of their size.
> >
> > The bill of the hat is well finished and has good solar spectrum cut
> > off during the day as well as keeping dew off the user's nose at
> > night.
> >
> > Eye relief is outstanding! The hat exhibits neither spherical nor
> > chromatic aberrations. However, coma is possible if the hat is used in
> > lieu of protective gear during observatory construction.
> >
> > The best feature of the hat is that it exhibits a good range of motion
> > both in azimuth and altitude. Care must be taken during positioning
> > when bill approaches zenith, as the hat becomes very unstable.
> >
> > Al has worked his magic on this one! One thing to watch out for: the
> > hat has the strange effect of having others bob their heads up and down
> > when they see it.
>
> John,
>
> I admit the Televue hat is excellent, and I do own one. I do somewhat
> prefer the blue/gray bill of my Stellafane hat over the green bill of the
> Televue hat. For visibility, it is tough to beat Barlow Bob's yellow "NEAF
> Solar Star Party" hat, and for cool living in the hot weather the mesh back
> of my Elk Creek Valley gives it the nod.
>
> You really need a number of hats for different hat wearing situations, just
> like you couldn't possibly get along with one telescope.
>
> Clear skies, Alan

So. How does that solar hat work in the dark?



  
Date: 27 Sep 2006 22:12:29
From: Alan French
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!



<john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca > wrote in message
news:1159394725.903567.302790@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > John,
> >
> > I admit the Televue hat is excellent, and I do own one. I do somewhat
> > prefer the blue/gray bill of my Stellafane hat over the green bill of
the
> > Televue hat. For visibility, it is tough to beat Barlow Bob's yellow
"NEAF
> > Solar Star Party" hat, and for cool living in the hot weather the mesh
back
> > of my Elk Creek Valley gives it the nod.
> >
> > You really need a number of hats for different hat wearing situations,
just
> > like you couldn't possibly get along with one telescope.
> >
> > Clear skies, Alan
>
> So. How does that solar hat work in the dark?


It works just fine - if you remember to take the filter off.

Clear skies, Alan



 
Date: 27 Sep 2006 18:55:38
From: Alan French
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!



<john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca > wrote in message
news:1159365843.603168.198290@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> I have the Tele Vue hat. I purchased it through Astromart a number of
> years ago.
>
> The Tele Vue hat is very well made. All curves seem to be well matched
> and the quality of materials and assembly is equal to the vocational
> demands for this accessory. With use and over time, the hat will
> exhibit some colour around the sweatband, but this does not affect
> viewing at all. For those with follicle challenges, the hat has the
> added effects of both reducing reflective sky glow at star parties and
> insulating your central processing unit. Being fully adjustable the hat
> can be used by owners of Newtonians, SCT's and refractors regardless
> of their size.
>
> The bill of the hat is well finished and has good solar spectrum cut
> off during the day as well as keeping dew off the user's nose at
> night.
>
> Eye relief is outstanding! The hat exhibits neither spherical nor
> chromatic aberrations. However, coma is possible if the hat is used in
> lieu of protective gear during observatory construction.
>
> The best feature of the hat is that it exhibits a good range of motion
> both in azimuth and altitude. Care must be taken during positioning
> when bill approaches zenith, as the hat becomes very unstable.
>
> Al has worked his magic on this one! One thing to watch out for: the
> hat has the strange effect of having others bob their heads up and down
> when they see it.

John,

I admit the Televue hat is excellent, and I do own one. I do somewhat
prefer the blue/gray bill of my Stellafane hat over the green bill of the
Televue hat. For visibility, it is tough to beat Barlow Bob's yellow "NEAF
Solar Star Party" hat, and for cool living in the hot weather the mesh back
of my Elk Creek Valley gives it the nod.

You really need a number of hats for different hat wearing situations, just
like you couldn't possibly get along with one telescope.

Clear skies, Alan



  
Date: 27 Sep 2006 16:27:42
From: AM
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!


Alan French wrote:

> You really need a number of hats for different hat wearing situations, just
> like you couldn't possibly get along with one telescope.
>
> Clear skies, Alan
>



Personally, I preffer my TrackIR hat.
But thats just me......




--
AM

http://sctuser.home.comcast.net

CentOS 4.3 KDE 3.3


 
Date: 27 Sep 2006 10:34:39
From:
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!



Davoud wrote:
> john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca wrote:
>
> > I have the Tele Vue hat. I purchased it through Astromart a number of
> > years ago...
>
> Mine came packed with my Tele Vue 'scope. I take it you do not have an
> autographed version <http://www.davidillig.com/neaf/index3.html>? And
> you wear it in public? Have you no shame?
>
> Davoud
>
> --
> usenet *at* davidillig *dawt* com

I'm sure that signature affects the hat's ballance.

Do you find any changes, over all, in attitude?

John



  
Date: 27 Sep 2006 18:32:20
From: Davoud
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!


john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca:
> > > I have the Tele Vue hat. I purchased it through Astromart a number of
> > > years ago...

Davoud:
> > Mine came packed with my Tele Vue 'scope. I take it you do not have an
> > autographed version <http://www.davidillig.com/neaf/index3.html>? And
> > you wear it in public? Have you no shame?

john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca:
> I'm sure that signature affects the hat's ballance.

You mean when I wear it!? Are you nuts!? I /never/ wear the hat.

> Do you find any changes, over all, in attitude?

Just having the hat in my closet has made me more confident and a
better astronomer, and has made my teeth whiter.

Davoud

--
usenet *at* davidillig *dawt* com


 
Date: 28 Sep 2006 16:42:14
From:
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!



Don't Be Evil wrote:
> john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca wrote:
> > I have the Tele Vue hat. I purchased it through Astromart a number of
> > years ago.
> >
> > The Tele Vue hat is very well made. All curves seem to be well matched
> > and the quality of materials and assembly is equal to the vocational
> > demands for this accessory. With use and over time, the hat will
> > exhibit some colour around the sweatband, but this does not affect
> > viewing at all. For those with follicle challenges, the hat has the
> > added effects of both reducing reflective sky glow at star parties and
> > insulating your central processing unit. Being fully adjustable the hat
> > can be used by owners of Newtonians, SCT's and refractors regardless
> > of their size.
> >
> > The bill of the hat is well finished and has good solar spectrum cut
> > off during the day as well as keeping dew off the user's nose at
> > night.
> >
> > Eye relief is outstanding! The hat exhibits neither spherical nor
> > chromatic aberrations. However, coma is possible if the hat is used in
> > lieu of protective gear during observatory construction.
> >
> > The best feature of the hat is that it exhibits a good range of motion
> > both in azimuth and altitude. Care must be taken during positioning
> > when bill approaches zenith, as the hat becomes very unstable.
> >
> > Al has worked his magic on this one! One thing to watch out for: the
> > hat has the strange effect of having others bob their heads up and down
> > when they see it.
> >
> > John
>
> Here's a hat for real astronomers. Coordinating suit and telescope
> shown below.
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=74930&item=250024402005
>
> Greg

Well that's OK if you're into radio astronomy.
John



 
Date: 28 Sep 2006 10:36:56
From: Don't Be Evil
Subject: Re: Tele Vue Review: Tele Vue on top!



john.kulczycki@sympatico.ca wrote:
> I have the Tele Vue hat. I purchased it through Astromart a number of
> years ago.
>
> The Tele Vue hat is very well made. All curves seem to be well matched
> and the quality of materials and assembly is equal to the vocational
> demands for this accessory. With use and over time, the hat will
> exhibit some colour around the sweatband, but this does not affect
> viewing at all. For those with follicle challenges, the hat has the
> added effects of both reducing reflective sky glow at star parties and
> insulating your central processing unit. Being fully adjustable the hat
> can be used by owners of Newtonians, SCT's and refractors regardless
> of their size.
>
> The bill of the hat is well finished and has good solar spectrum cut
> off during the day as well as keeping dew off the user's nose at
> night.
>
> Eye relief is outstanding! The hat exhibits neither spherical nor
> chromatic aberrations. However, coma is possible if the hat is used in
> lieu of protective gear during observatory construction.
>
> The best feature of the hat is that it exhibits a good range of motion
> both in azimuth and altitude. Care must be taken during positioning
> when bill approaches zenith, as the hat becomes very unstable.
>
> Al has worked his magic on this one! One thing to watch out for: the
> hat has the strange effect of having others bob their heads up and down
> when they see it.
>
> John

Here's a hat for real astronomers. Coordinating suit and telescope
shown below.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=74930&item=250024402005

Greg