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Date: 03 Nov 2006 15:57:50
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Sci.space.news What happened?


Just looked at sci.space.news which usually is without spam, looks like
the spammers found a way to get in?

Is anything sacred anymore?

We really need to find a way to send these spammers on their way!





 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 16:02:53
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?



Patrick Edward Murray wrote:
> Just looked at sci.space.news which usually is without spam, looks like
> the spammers found a way to get in?
>
> Is anything sacred anymore?
>
> We really need to find a way to send these spammers on their way!

There are ways. But they mostly involve going to a moderated format,
like the Yahoogroups. If you want things to remain open, you have to
put up with spam/loons/trolls.



  
Date: 04 Nov 2006 01:32:59
From: jpo
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?




RMOLLISE wrote:

> Patrick Edward Murray wrote:
> > Just looked at sci.space.news which usually is without spam, looks like
> > the spammers found a way to get in?
> >
> > Is anything sacred anymore?
> >
> > We really need to find a way to send these spammers on their way!
>
> There are ways. But they mostly involve going to a moderated format,
> like the Yahoogroups. If you want things to remain open, you have to
> put up with spam/loons/trolls.

Oh lets be accurate for once Rod, not to mention fair.

SPAM could be controled in every forum. As you say: "There are ways". It
isn't, for predictable reasons - and that's all that matters.

It is worth noting that where it matters, spam is NONEXISTENT!
It's expensive but it is also pure CHOICE.

I'll let you get back to your Limbau program now -





 
Date: 04 Nov 2006 08:03:37
From: Matthew Ota
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?


Uncle Rod:

Go here:

http://www.mjt.org/exhibits/letters/letters.html

The Museum of Jurassic Technology has a collection of letters to Mt.
Wilson Observatory from the 1920s that show a form of spam from that
time period. Cranks and looney people wrote letters to the astronomers
at Mt. Wilson Observatory....
Fractured ceramics abound in this society...now, in the past and in the
future.

Matthew Ota

RMOLLISE wrote:
> Patrick Edward Murray wrote:
> > Rod,
> >
> > I always thought that they were moderated somehow because it never used
> > to be a problem.
>
> Hi:
>
> I was under that impression, too. Maybe they were.
>
> One thing I do know, maintaining a moderator or group of moderators
> over the long run can be tough...people change their interests and,
> more importantly, just get tired of moderating all the spammers, loons,
> and weirdos. There comes a point where you just can't stand reading
> even one more strange and angry post--sucks the life right out of you.
>
> Personally? I've backed off on my Usenet participation quite a bit
> since the old days, though I do try to keep my hand in. I still like
> s.a.a....BUT...
>
> As above though, I get tired of the odd posts from emotionally troubled
> people (there's an example in this thread), and so spend most of my
> time on my admittedly less lively Yahoogroups. ;-)



  
Date: 04 Nov 2006 10:42:23
From: William Hamblen
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?


On 4 Nov 2006 08:03:37 -0800, "Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net >
wrote:

>Fractured ceramics abound in this society...now, in the past and in the
>future.

Of course, the difference between then and now is that then you had to
pay three cents for a stamp and you could only pester one person at a
time [0]. Now, you can do the whole world for free.

Bud

[0] Well, the lady from Auckland might have had to pay more for
overseas mail.

--
The night is just the shadow of the Earth.


  
Date: 05 Nov 2006 16:08:43
From: Mark F.
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?


I read three of the letters. Dr. Minn's predecessors.




"Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net > wrote in message
news:1162656217.571012.17110@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Uncle Rod:
>
> Go here:
>
> http://www.mjt.org/exhibits/letters/letters.html
>
> The Museum of Jurassic Technology has a collection of letters to Mt.
> Wilson Observatory from the 1920s that show a form of spam from that
> time period. Cranks and looney people wrote letters to the astronomers
> at Mt. Wilson Observatory....
> Fractured ceramics abound in this society...now, in the past and in the
> future.
>
> Matthew Ota
>
> RMOLLISE wrote:
>> Patrick Edward Murray wrote:
>> > Rod,
>> >
>> > I always thought that they were moderated somehow because it never used
>> > to be a problem.
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I was under that impression, too. Maybe they were.
>>
>> One thing I do know, maintaining a moderator or group of moderators
>> over the long run can be tough...people change their interests and,
>> more importantly, just get tired of moderating all the spammers, loons,
>> and weirdos. There comes a point where you just can't stand reading
>> even one more strange and angry post--sucks the life right out of you.
>>
>> Personally? I've backed off on my Usenet participation quite a bit
>> since the old days, though I do try to keep my hand in. I still like
>> s.a.a....BUT...
>>
>> As above though, I get tired of the odd posts from emotionally troubled
>> people (there's an example in this thread), and so spend most of my
>> time on my admittedly less lively Yahoogroups. ;-)
>




 
Date: 04 Nov 2006 07:26:00
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?



Patrick Edward Murray wrote:
> Rod,
>
> I always thought that they were moderated somehow because it never used
> to be a problem.

Hi:

I was under that impression, too. Maybe they were.

One thing I do know, maintaining a moderator or group of moderators
over the long run can be tough...people change their interests and,
more importantly, just get tired of moderating all the spammers, loons,
and weirdos. There comes a point where you just can't stand reading
even one more strange and angry post--sucks the life right out of you.

Personally? I've backed off on my Usenet participation quite a bit
since the old days, though I do try to keep my hand in. I still like
s.a.a....BUT...

As above though, I get tired of the odd posts from emotionally troubled
people (there's an example in this thread), and so spend most of my
time on my admittedly less lively Yahoogroups. ;-)



 
Date: 04 Nov 2006 01:29:35
From: jpo
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?




Patrick Edward Murray wrote:

> Just looked at sci.space.news which usually is without spam, looks like
> the spammers found a way to get in?
>
> Is anything sacred anymore?
>

No. 1/10th of the population produces. The rest live off it and produce
spam of one kind or another -

>
> We really need to find a way to send these spammers on their way!



 
Date: 03 Nov 2006 21:25:44
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?


Rod,

I always thought that they were moderated somehow because it never used
to be a problem.



 
Date: 04 Nov 2006 13:27:55
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?



"When it is dark enough, you can see the stars"
-Ralph Waldo Emerson



  
Date: 04 Nov 2006 20:41:29
From: Willie R. Meghar
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?


"Patrick Edward Murray" <ed1ward2@verizon.net > wrote:

>"When it is dark enough, you can see the stars"
>-Ralph Waldo Emerson

". . . the blue color of the atmosphere is caused by the darkness that
is above it . . ."
-- Leonardo da Vinci

Willie R. Meghar
Observational Notes at:
http://meghar.blogspot.com/


 
Date: 05 Nov 2006 12:51:38
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Re: Sci.space.news What happened?



Mark F. wrote:
> I read three of the letters. Dr. Minn's predecessors.


I think ole Min is "Channeling" something or somebody:)