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Date: 24 Aug 2006 23:16:12
From: Thomas Lee Elifritz
Subject: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
http://cosmic.lifeform.org/?p=170
I will never surrender.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 21:36:01
From: Rich
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
> Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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> http://cosmic.lifeform.org/?p=170
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> I will never surrender.
Earth warming crack pot! If you like Pluto so much, go LIVE on that
-273K dirty snowball.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 16:43:59
From: Claude
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
> Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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> http://cosmic.lifeform.org/?p=170
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> I will never surrender.
>
> http://cosmic.lifeform.org
It's just a frozen rock, no big deal. In other words you never fix
mistakes. That's why the world is fucked up.
--
Linux is just a fancy name for Windows blocker.
Claude Hopper
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 09:41:12
From: Eric Chomko
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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William Elliot wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Sorcerer wrote:
> >
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 16:55:34
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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"Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@verizon.net > wrote in message
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 16:59:11
From: Ben Newsam
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Sorcerer wrote:
> So Jupiter and the Sun form a binary system, all other planets
> are moons of the sun.
"Cats is Dogs, and Rabbits is Dogs, and so's Parrots; but this 'ere
Tortoise is an Insect, so there ain't no charge for it!"
--
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 09:31:32
From: Eric Chomko
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Alex Terrell wrote:
> William Elliot wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
> >
> > > Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
> > >
> > Don't knock it. It's the only double planet known in the galaxy.
>
> Apart from Earth - Moon
Charon is much more like Pluto, than our moon is like the earth.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 11:40:47
From: Thomas Lee Elifritz
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Eric Chomko wrote:
> Alex Terrell wrote:
>> William Elliot wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
>>>>
>>> Don't knock it. It's the only double planet known in the galaxy.
>> Apart from Earth - Moon
>
> Charon is much more like Pluto, than our moon is like the earth.
According to latest theories they took quite a hit. I'm thinking both of
them are going to looked fairly morphed over when we finally get a look.
After all, they are both roughly spherical, thus planetary.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 09:09:18
From:
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Rich wrote:
> Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
> > Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
> >
> > http://cosmic.lifeform.org/?p=170
> >
> > I will never surrender.
>
> Earth warming crack pot! If you like Pluto so much, go LIVE on that
> -273K dirty snowball.
If climate scientists don't better police their discipline, could
climatology get formally categorized as a "dwarf science"?
Best wishes,
Steve Schulin
http://www.nuclear.com
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 23:26:24
From: Retief
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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On 25 Aug 2006 09:09:18 -0700, steve.schulin@nuclear.com wrote:
>Rich wrote:
>> Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
>> > Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
>> Earth warming crack pot! If you like Pluto so much, go LIVE on that
>> -273K dirty snowball.
Well, there's nothing wrong with Pluto. And (the non-planet) Neptune
has not yet cleared Pluto from its orbit... ;)
>If climate scientists don't better police their discipline, could
>climatology get formally categorized as a "dwarf science"?
You make the assumtion that Elifritz qualifiies as a climate
scientist... Do a Google search and he appears as an irrational wacko
-- he apparently can't defend his asserted "science" from a scientific
standpoint...
Retief
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 10:10:07
From: Thomas Lee Elifritz
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Retief wrote:
> On 25 Aug 2006 09:09:18 -0700, steve.schulin@nuclear.com wrote:
>
>> Rich wrote:
>>> Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
>>>> Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
>>> Earth warming crack pot! If you like Pluto so much, go LIVE on that
>>> -273K dirty snowball.
>
> Well, there's nothing wrong with Pluto. And (the non-planet) Neptune
> has not yet cleared Pluto from its orbit... ;)
>
>> If climate scientists don't better police their discipline, could
>> climatology get formally categorized as a "dwarf science"?
>
> You make the assumtion that Elifritz qualifiies as a climate
> scientist... Do a Google search and he appears as an irrational wacko
> -- he apparently can't defend his asserted "science" from a scientific
> standpoint...
Actually, I have a website and a couple of BLOBS, where anybody who
happens to be an astute observer, can visit and quickly formulate their
own opinions, rather than listening to your crackpot ideas on reality.
http://www.lifeform.org/
Mirrors :
http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/
http://webpages.charter.net/cosmic/
External Links :
http://www.lifeform.net/
http://elifritz.members.atlantic.net/
Planetary BLOBS :
http://cosmic.lifeform.org/
http://cosmic.lifeform.net/
Thanks for searching!
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 15:15:40
From: Retief
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:10:07 -0500, Thomas Lee Elifritz
<cosmic@lifeform.org > wrote:
>> You make the assumtion that Elifritz qualifiies as a climate
>> scientist... Do a Google search and he appears as an irrational wacko
>> -- he apparently can't defend his asserted "science" from a scientific
>> standpoint...
>
>Actually, I have a website and a couple of BLOBS, where anybody who
>happens to be an astute observer, can visit and quickly formulate their
>own opinions, rather than listening to your crackpot ideas on reality.
What? Rational "scientific" statements from Elifritz like this:
http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/moveabletype/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=746
"Hurricanes and Global Warming : It's about time that people see
Pielke, Gray, Landsea and Mayfield for what they truly are -
obsolete liars."
Posted by Thomas Lee Elifritz at March 17, 2006 12:02 PM
"Thomas Lee Elifritz-
We welcome all sorts of substantive discussions on this site. If
you have something of substance to say, then let us know. Please
do however take the nasty comments elsewhere.
Thanks!"
Posted by Roger Pielke Jr. at March 17, 2006 09:15 PM
Retief
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 00:41:44
From: Alex Terrell
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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William Elliot wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
>
> > Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
> >
> Don't knock it. It's the only double planet known in the galaxy.
Apart from Earth - Moon
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 09:35:25
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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"Alex Terrell" <alexterrell@yahoo.com > wrote in message
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 16:23:48
From: beav
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:35:25 GMT, "Sorcerer"
<Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_a > wrote:
>
>"Alex Terrell" <alexterrell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1156491704.646391.151740@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 16:52:40
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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"beav" <BEAVITH1@NETSCAPE.NET > wrote in message
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 11:27:37
From: Thomas Lee Elifritz
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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beav wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:35:25 GMT, "Sorcerer"
> <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_a> wrote:
>
>> "Alex Terrell" <alexterrell@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1156491704.646391.151740@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>
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Date: 24 Aug 2006 22:27:25
From: William Elliot
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
> Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
>
Don't knock it. It's the only double planet known in the galaxy.
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 02:57:18
From: William Elliot
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006, Sorcerer wrote:
>
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 05:05:24
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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>I will never surrender.
There is nothing to surrender. No matter what class us Earthlings put =
Pluto in it's still the same object. It don't make no difference.
.Florian
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 17:37:26
From: Eric Chomko
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Sorcerer wrote:
> "Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:1156534210.382300.191770@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 01:53:44
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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"Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@verizon.net > wrote in message
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 12:30:10
From: Eric Chomko
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Sorcerer wrote:
> "Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:1156530114.814709.298510@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 20:22:08
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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"Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@verizon.net > wrote in message
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 20:36:58
From: Dirk Van de moortel
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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"Sorcerer" <Headmaster@hogwarts.physics_a > wrote in message news:QZIHg.168423$9d4.158649@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
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> "Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:1156534210.382300.191770@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
[snip]
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 21:15:54
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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"Dirk Van de moortel" <dirkvandemoortel@ThankS-NO-SperM.hotmail.com > wrote
in message news:KbJHg.40938$uh7.571508@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 11:21:54
From: Eric Chomko
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Sorcerer wrote:
> "Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:1156524071.960852.186330@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
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Date: 25 Aug 2006 19:01:33
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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"Eric Chomko" <pne.chomko@verizon.net > wrote in message
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 13:29:01
From:
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Retief wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:10:07 -0500, Thomas Lee Elifritz
> <cosmic@lifeform.org> wrote:
>
> >> You make the assumtion that Elifritz qualifiies as a climate
> >> scientist... Do a Google search and he appears as an irrational wacko
> >> -- he apparently can't defend his asserted "science" from a scientific
> >> standpoint...
> >
> >Actually, I have a website and a couple of BLOBS, where anybody who
> >happens to be an astute observer, can visit and quickly formulate their
> >own opinions, rather than listening to your crackpot ideas on reality.
>
> What? Rational "scientific" statements from Elifritz like this:
> http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/moveabletype/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=746
>
> "Hurricanes and Global Warming : It's about time that people see
> Pielke, Gray, Landsea and Mayfield for what they truly are -
> obsolete liars."
> Posted by Thomas Lee Elifritz at March 17, 2006 12:02 PM
So why do these individuals continue to lie, after they have been
clearly demonstrated to be liars? Inquiring minds want to know.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 12:18:00
From: Retief
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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On 26 Aug 2006 13:29:01 -0700, pdf@charter.net (AKA Tommy Lee
Elifritz) wrote:
>> What? Rational "scientific" statements from Elifritz like this:
>> http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/moveabletype/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=746
>>
>> "Hurricanes and Global Warming : It's about time that people see
>> Pielke, Gray, Landsea and Mayfield for what they truly are -
>> obsolete liars."
>> Posted by Thomas Lee Elifritz at March 17, 2006 12:02 PM
Tommy Lee thinks that this is what passes for scientific discourse?
>So why do these individuals continue to lie, after they have been
>clearly demonstrated to be liars? Inquiring minds want to know.
Tommy Lee thinks that an accusation by Tommy Lee constitutes "proof"?
Maybe Tommy Lee should publish his results, showing that these
individual are in error. But nay, Tommy Lee would rather flame and
insult them from an obscure newsgroup, where he won't risk retribution
in the scientific journals...
Retief
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 12:59:35
From:
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Retief wrote:
> steve.schulin@nuclear.com wrote:
> >Rich wrote:
> >> Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
> >> > Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
> >> Earth warming crack pot! If you like Pluto so much, go LIVE on that
> >> -273K dirty snowball.
> ...
> >If climate scientists don't better police their discipline, could
> >climatology get formally categorized as a "dwarf science"?
>
> You make the assumtion that Elifritz qualifiies as a climate
> scientist...
Hi Retief - actually, I was referring to such rotten fruits of climate
science as the IPCC's embrace of Mann et al. hockey stick as policy
relevant in the WG1 TAR. The connection to this thread was via the
"dwarf planet" status assigned to Pluto -- I was pondering its possible
analog in categorizing the sorry state of a scientific discipline. I've
decided that applying the term "dwarf science" to climatology is likely
an affront to dwarfs of good will everywhere, so I will not use it.
Thanks and best wishes,
Steve Schulin
http://www.nuclear.com
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 14:02:15
From: The Director
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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NobodyYouKnow wrote:
> "Jim Davis" <jimdavis2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns982C9522C9542jimdavis2earthlinkne@85.227.11.7...
> > The Director wrote:
> >
> > > It's going to be very hard for these individuals to cope
> > > with an loud, opinionated and very vocal and ornery scientist
> > > with a major scientific result under his belt :
> > >
> > > http://www.lifeform.org/bion.htm
> >
> > delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are
> > much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
>
> Ah.. his fame precedes him. He really is influential and well known though.
>
> Well known: Who can escapte his endless rants.
>
> Influencial: If he says it, I can be almost sure that it is bullshit... He
> thus has influence on my opinions..
Yes, I'm really ranting on in this thread.
My BLOB posts are well know for their wordiness.
Thank you so much for reading my lengthy usenet rants.
http://cosmic.lkifeform.org
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 12:45:17
From: The Director
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Jim Davis wrote:
> The Director wrote:
>
> > It's going to be very hard for these individuals to cope
> > with an loud, opinionated and very vocal and ornery scientist
> > with a major scientific result under his belt :
> >
> > http://www.lifeform.org/bion.htm
>
> delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are
> much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
So you think metal ammonia solutions, bismuth - bismuth triiodide
solutions and the metal insulator transition is delusional. Ok. Got it.
Got any other goods delusions to share with us?
I especially like there is the there is no global warming delusion.
Heh heh there's a bunch of good ones out there.
I especially love the Goddard one.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 10:44:16
From: The Director
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Rand Simberg wrote:
> I see that Elifritz has changed his address to escape the killfiles.
> Or set up a sock puppet.
No, just a temporary google account while my ISP gets their newsgroup
problems sorted out. Don't worry, I'm still me. I have changed, though,
I evolve, you know, like the universe, and our understanding of it. I
know how that whole evolution thing is completely alien to you.
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 10:23:08
From: The Director
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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Retief wrote:
> On 26 Aug 2006 13:29:01 -0700, pdf@charter.net (AKA Tommy Lee
> Elifritz) wrote:
>
> >> What? Rational "scientific" statements from Elifritz like this:
> >> http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/moveabletype/mt-comments.cgi?entry_id=746
> >>
> >> "Hurricanes and Global Warming : It's about time that people see
> >> Pielke, Gray, Landsea and Mayfield for what they truly are -
> >> obsolete liars."
> >> Posted by Thomas Lee Elifritz at March 17, 2006 12:02 PM
>
> Tommy Lee thinks that this is what passes for scientific discourse?
There isn't any more credible dissenting discourse on global warming
enhancement of hurricanes, it's a fundamental thermodynamic result. Max
Mayfield has resigned. He knows he is henceforth no longer able to lie
at the highest levels of government about global warming enhancement of
hurricane intensity. All of these individuals have disgraced science.
They get what they deserve. It should be far worse than a cushy
retirement package, but at least these lesser individuals are not in
positions of power, merely in positions of disinformation. I'm going
after the larger fish in the sea, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and his
cronies, and Conrad Lautenberg and Michael Griffin, and their
subordinates. It's going to be very hard for these individuals to cope
with an loud, opinionated and very vocal and ornery scientist with a
major scientific result under his belt :
http://www.lifeform.org/bion.htm
Let me explain it to you, crackpot, you ain't seen nothing yet.
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 21:39:34
From: Jim Davis
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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The Director wrote:
> It's going to be very hard for these individuals to cope
> with an loud, opinionated and very vocal and ornery scientist
> with a major scientific result under his belt :
>
> http://www.lifeform.org/bion.htm
delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are
much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
Jim Davis
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 16:33:40
From: NobodyYouKnow
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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"Jim Davis" <jimdavis2@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:Xns982C9522C9542jimdavis2earthlinkne@85.227.11.7...
> The Director wrote:
>
> > It's going to be very hard for these individuals to cope
> > with an loud, opinionated and very vocal and ornery scientist
> > with a major scientific result under his belt :
> >
> > http://www.lifeform.org/bion.htm
>
> delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are
> much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
Ah.. his fame precedes him. He really is influential and well known though.
Well known: Who can escapte his endless rants.
Influencial: If he says it, I can be almost sure that it is bullshit... He
thus has influence on my opinions..
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Date: 27 Aug 2006 17:36:07
From: Rand Simberg
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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On 27 Aug 2006 10:23:08 -0700, in a place far, far away, "The
Director" <pdf@charter.net > made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:
>> >> "Hurricanes and Global Warming : It's about time that people see
>> >> Pielke, Gray, Landsea and Mayfield for what they truly are -
>> >> obsolete liars."
>> >> Posted by Thomas Lee Elifritz at March 17, 2006 12:02 PM
>>
>> Tommy Lee thinks that this is what passes for scientific discourse?
>
>There isn't any more credible dissenting discourse on global warming
>enhancement of hurricanes, it's a fundamental thermodynamic result. Max
>Mayfield has resigned. He knows he is henceforth no longer able to lie
>at the highest levels of government about global warming enhancement of
>hurricane intensity.
<rest of insanity snipped >
I see that Elifritz has changed his address to escape the killfiles.
Or set up a sock puppet.
In you go. Stop squirming.
*plonk*
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Date: 29 Aug 2006 09:52:01
From: Eric Chomko
Subject: Re: Pluto - The Tenth Planet From A Star Called The Sun
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The Director wrote:
> Jim Davis wrote:
> > The Director wrote:
> >
> > > It's going to be very hard for these individuals to cope
> > > with an loud, opinionated and very vocal and ornery scientist
> > > with a major scientific result under his belt :
> > >
> > > http://www.lifeform.org/bion.htm
> >
> > delusions of grandeur - a delusion (common in paranoia) that you are
> > much greater and more powerful and influential than you really are
>
> So you think metal ammonia solutions, bismuth - bismuth triiodide
> solutions and the metal insulator transition is delusional. Ok. Got it.
> Got any other goods delusions to share with us?
>
> I especially like there is the there is no global warming delusion.
>
> Heh heh there's a bunch of good ones out there.
>
> I especially love the Goddard one.
Do you have a link for that one?
Eric
>
> http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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