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Date: 06 Dec 2006 11:59:31
From: Algomeysa2
Subject: Mars Surprise
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NASA is having a press conference today to announce "a significant find" on
Mars:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2006/12/nasa_to_announc.html
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 04:43:06
From: Matthew Ota
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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I vote that the "significant find" was the MRO images of VIkings 1 and
2
Matthew Ota
Jim wrote:
> In article <Dgydh.7322$tM1.2652@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Algomeysa2 wrote:
> > NASA is having a press conference today to announce "a significant find" on
> > Mars:
> >
> > http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2006/12/nasa_to_announc.html
>
> Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen:
>
> [1] Running water
> [2] Some kind of life (mould, lichen etc)
> [3] Non-human tech (ruins, jars etc)
> [4] Shadow vessel.
>
> (actually, in all seriousness [1] is what seems to be touted as likely).
>
> Jim
> --
> Find me at http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk
> Please help to bring two classic works of whisky literature back into print
> by visiting http://www.ClassicExpressions.co.uk Thank you.
> "The deil's awa, the deil's awa, the deil's awa wi' th' Exciseman."
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 13:01:03
From: Joe D
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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"Matthew Ota" <otakenji@gmail.com > wrote:
> I vote that the "significant find" was the MRO images of VIkings 1 and 2
Given that the panel consists of Mike Malin, Ken Edgett, and Phil
Christensen, it's most likely related to MGS and, specifically, TES data.
My best guess is it is minerological detection of present/very recent
water. The timing so soon after the (probable) loss of MGS is interesting.
I'll bet they've been sitting on the result for months and only now decided
to release it to offset the negative "MGS is toast" news stories.
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 09:09:14
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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Joe D wrote:
> "Matthew Ota" <otakenji@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I vote that the "significant find" was the MRO images of VIkings 1 and 2
>
> Given that the panel consists of Mike Malin, Ken Edgett, and Phil
> Christensen, it's most likely related to MGS and, specifically, TES data.
> My best guess is it is minerological detection of present/very recent
> water. The timing so soon after the (probable) loss of MGS is interesting.
> I'll bet they've been sitting on the result for months and only now decided
> to release it to offset the negative "MGS is toast" news stories.
That's nonsense. As someone who once worked for Mike Malin I can tell
you that's not how these people think.
And someone said running water? That's not currently possible on Mars.
Maybe flowing mud with "water tubes" or something, but no liquid water.
Greg
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Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
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To reply take out your eye
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 17:36:38
From: Drunken Jay Walker
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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"Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:299d9$4576eb23$4212a5ee$1536@TULAROSA.NET...
> Joe D wrote:
>> "Matthew Ota" <otakenji@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I vote that the "significant find" was the MRO images of VIkings 1 and 2
>>
>> Given that the panel consists of Mike Malin, Ken Edgett, and Phil
>> Christensen, it's most likely related to MGS and, specifically, TES data.
>> My best guess is it is minerological detection of present/very recent
>> water. The timing so soon after the (probable) loss of MGS is
>> interesting.
>> I'll bet they've been sitting on the result for months and only now
>> decided
>> to release it to offset the negative "MGS is toast" news stories.
>
> That's nonsense. As someone who once worked for Mike Malin I can tell
And ended up here??
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 19:44:59
From: Joe D
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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"Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com > wrote:
> Joe D wrote:
> > "Matthew Ota" <otakenji@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I vote that the "significant find" was the MRO images of VIkings 1 and 2
> >
> > Given that the panel consists of Mike Malin, Ken Edgett, and Phil
> > Christensen, it's most likely related to MGS and, specifically, TES data.
> > My best guess is it is minerological detection of present/very recent
> > water. The timing so soon after the (probable) loss of MGS is interesting.
> > I'll bet they've been sitting on the result for months and only now decided
> > to release it to offset the negative "MGS is toast" news stories.
>
> That's nonsense. As someone who once worked for Mike Malin I can tell
> you that's not how these people think.
Oops! I was really poking fun at the general NASA PR engine, rather than
those guys in particular. I know that scientists can't keep anything a
secret for more than 5 seconds! :-) Sorry for the confusion; those guys
are my heroes.
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 12:39:33
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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In article <1165408985.947015.101710@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com >, Matthew Ota wrote:
> I vote that the "significant find" was the MRO images of VIkings 1 and
> 2
Those (though very cool) have already been released. This is going to be something
in addition to those.
Jim
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 12:04:51
From: Jim
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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In article <Dgydh.7322$tM1.2652@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net >, Algomeysa2 wrote:
> NASA is having a press conference today to announce "a significant find" on
> Mars:
>
> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2006/12/nasa_to_announc.html
Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen:
[1] Running water
[2] Some kind of life (mould, lichen etc)
[3] Non-human tech (ruins, jars etc)
[4] Shadow vessel.
(actually, in all seriousness [1] is what seems to be touted as likely).
Jim
--
Find me at http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk
Please help to bring two classic works of whisky literature back into print
by visiting http://www.ClassicExpressions.co.uk Thank you.
"The deil's awa, the deil's awa, the deil's awa wi' th' Exciseman."
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 13:39:04
From: Mark F.
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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Jimmy Hoffa's body?
"Jim" <jim@magrathea.plus.com > wrote in message
news:slrnendcf3.3185.jim@odin.magrathea.local...
> In article <Dgydh.7322$tM1.2652@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> Algomeysa2 wrote:
>> NASA is having a press conference today to announce "a significant find"
>> on
>> Mars:
>>
>> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2006/12/nasa_to_announc.html
>
> Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen:
>
> [1] Running water
> [2] Some kind of life (mould, lichen etc)
> [3] Non-human tech (ruins, jars etc)
> [4] Shadow vessel.
>
> (actually, in all seriousness [1] is what seems to be touted as likely).
>
> Jim
> --
> Find me at http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk
> Please help to bring two classic works of whisky literature back into
> print
> by visiting http://www.ClassicExpressions.co.uk Thank you.
> "The deil's awa, the deil's awa, the deil's awa wi' th' Exciseman."
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 14:41:23
From: Bob Schmall
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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Danny *in's body?
Mark F. wrote:
> Jimmy Hoffa's body?
>
>
> "Jim" <jim@magrathea.plus.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnendcf3.3185.jim@odin.magrathea.local...
>
>>In article <Dgydh.7322$tM1.2652@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
>>Algomeysa2 wrote:
>>
>>>NASA is having a press conference today to announce "a significant find"
>>>on
>>>Mars:
>>>
>>>http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2006/12/nasa_to_announc.html
>>
>>Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen:
>>
>>[1] Running water
>>[2] Some kind of life (mould, lichen etc)
>>[3] Non-human tech (ruins, jars etc)
>>[4] Shadow vessel.
>>
>>(actually, in all seriousness [1] is what seems to be touted as likely).
>>
>>Jim
>>--
>>Find me at http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk
>>Please help to bring two classic works of whisky literature back into
>>print
>>by visiting http://www.ClassicExpressions.co.uk Thank you.
>>"The deil's awa, the deil's awa, the deil's awa wi' th' Exciseman."
>
>
>
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 13:21:46
From: Algomeysa2
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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"Jim" <jim@magrathea.plus.com > wrote in message
news:slrnendcf3.3185.jim@odin.magrathea.local...
> [1] Running water
> (actually, in all seriousness [1] is what seems to be touted as likely).
Yeah, I agree. Probably not a nice pond, it'll probably be an instance
where a warm spell caused permafrost to melt and caused a short-lived
mudslide, or something along those lines.
I remember reading long, long ago.... like, in the Viking days, that on
the Martian equator, there were brief times, in Martian summer, when it got
up to 60 or 70 degrees F.
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 08:32:46
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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We all know that the Shadows from ZaHaDom buried a ship on mars, so maybe
they stopped a tiny bit of it showing up!
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There are those who believe that life here, began out there, far across the
universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the
Egyptians, or the Toltechs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may yet be
brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the
heavens.
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
"Jim" <jim@magrathea.plus.com > wrote in message
news:slrnendcf3.3185.jim@odin.magrathea.local...
> In article <Dgydh.7322$tM1.2652@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> Algomeysa2 wrote:
>> NASA is having a press conference today to announce "a significant find"
>> on
>> Mars:
>>
>> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2006/12/nasa_to_announc.html
>
> Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen:
>
> [1] Running water
> [2] Some kind of life (mould, lichen etc)
> [3] Non-human tech (ruins, jars etc)
> [4] Shadow vessel.
>
> (actually, in all seriousness [1] is what seems to be touted as likely).
>
> Jim
> --
> Find me at http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk
> Please help to bring two classic works of whisky literature back into
> print
> by visiting http://www.ClassicExpressions.co.uk Thank you.
> "The deil's awa, the deil's awa, the deil's awa wi' th' Exciseman."
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Date: 06 Dec 2006 20:51:35
From: Alan French
Subject: Re: Mars Surprise
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"Algomeysa2" <Algomeysa2NOSPAM@mindspring.comNOPESPAM > wrote in message
news:Dgydh.7322$tM1.2652@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> NASA is having a press conference today to announce "a significant find"
on
> Mars:
>
> http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2006/12/nasa_to_announc.html
Rest areas?
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