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Date: 01 Dec 2006 13:20:29
From: W. Watson
Subject: Looking for a "Best Buy" Among Dobs
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In the spirit of Consumer Reports, I'm looking for a "Best Buy" among the
Dob offerings. I'd like to add it to our museum's collection of telescopes
primarily to let people know about Dobs. Too often I come across people who
have bought some inexpensive poorly mfgered GEM that within days they
abandon, so I want to at least show them the simplicity and ease of use of a
Dob. Maybe anywhere from $150 to $300. It could be a 4-6".
Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
(121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 06:20:04
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: Looking for a "Best Buy" Among Dobs
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Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord gives you a list of companys, myself a
Stargazer Steve 4.25 f9 one fits you bill.
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Telescope Buyers FAQ
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"W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.com > wrote in message
news:x_Vbh.6037$1s6.284@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> In the spirit of Consumer Reports, I'm looking for a "Best Buy" among the
> Dob offerings. I'd like to add it to our museum's collection of telescopes
> primarily to let people know about Dobs. Too often I come across people
> who have bought some inexpensive poorly mfgered GEM that within days they
> abandon, so I want to at least show them the simplicity and ease of use of
> a Dob. Maybe anywhere from $150 to $300. It could be a 4-6".
>
> Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
> (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
> Obz Site: 39° 15' 7" N, 121° 2' 32" W, 2700 feet
> --
> "I have made this letter [e-mail] a rather long one, only
> because I didn't have the lesiure to make it shorter."
> -- Blaise Pascal
> Web Page: <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews>
>
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 19:09:57
From:
Subject: Re: Min's Christian "Litmus" Test
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Lowly Christian wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 "Sugien" <dinosoft@adelphia.net> wrote:
> >I stand by my original statement
>
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> Our moderate-to-conservative US Supreme Court will soon shoot
> down Roe V Wade. But without providing exceptions for cases of
> forcible-rape, incest, and perhaps in cases where severe, life-
> threatening risks to the pregnant woman exceed 90+% etc., then
> the States aren't likely to get such draconian measures passed
> by the voters, just as we saw happen in South Dakota this last
> election cycle. Personally, I'd like to see a Federal ban on
> abortions, narrowly with the aforesaid exceptions of rape and
> incest, but I understand that choosing between the lesser of
> two evils is what politics is about. This is called compromise,
> a practice with which non-negotiating extremists on either side
> of the sharply-divided political aisle are too often unfamiliar.
>
> You see, permanently overturning Roe V Wade and winning a legal
> ban on abortions nationwide, or at least State-by-State, is as
> much about politics as it is about strong religious conviction.
>
> It's like the joke about a rabbi and a priest sitting ringside
> at a championship boxing match. Just before the opening bell
> rings, one of boxers, who is a Catholic, kneels in the corner
> and crosses himself. So the rabbi asks the priest, What's that
> mean? And the priest replied, Not a damned thing if he doesn't
> know how to box! I'm paraphrasing that from memory, from a
> movie whose name escapes me. But I think the point is clear,
>
> The point being, it's good to be more realistic where politics
> are concerned. The A.C.L.U., the Anti-Christian Liberal Union,
> aren't going down without a firefight...so, prepare for *WAR*! :)
>
> In Vigilance,
> Daniel Joseph Min
> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
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"And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not
perceive the plank in your own eye? "Or how can you say to your
brother, 'Brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye,' when
you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye? Hypocrite!
First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly
to remove the speck that is in your brother's eye."
Luke 6:41-42 NKJV
In verse 41, Jesus states, "Why to you look and find fault with your
brother's spiritual walk, how he believes or lives." When you can't see
the big fault in your own Christian walk, life style or belief. He says
first remove that fault, habit or belief of your own. It may be a sin
you need to get rid of by the power of the Holy Spirit, or maybe a
gross false teaching you may have retained from the traditions of men.
Such a teaching may be like a plank in your eye because it has
prevented you from perceiving so much truth from the Scriptures.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 19:18:04
From: Howard Lester
Subject: Re: Looking for a "Best Buy" Among Dobs
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"W. Watson" wrote
> In the spirit of Consumer Reports, I'm looking for a "Best Buy" among the
> Dob offerings. I'd like to add it to our museum's collection of telescopes
> primarily to let people know about Dobs. Too often I come across people
> who have bought some inexpensive poorly mfgered GEM that within days they
> abandon, so I want to at least show them the simplicity and ease of use of
> a Dob. Maybe anywhere from $150 to $300. It could be a 4-6".
Based on your context of "museum collection," I suggest anything that is
based on John Dobson's original design. I.e., no Orions (they use springs),
or those that use roller bearings, truss tubes, or any such fancy design
changes. A basic wooden box on teflon bearings oughta satisfy your
requirements.
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Date: 01 Dec 2006 12:15:47
From: Shelldigger
Subject: Re: Looking for a "Best Buy" Among Dobs
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Orion XT 6 @ $259.95
Cat# 9185
Or XT 4.5 @ $229.95
Cat# 9804
Ph - 800-447-1001
W=2E Watson wrote:
> In the spirit of Consumer Reports, I'm looking for a "Best Buy" among the
> Dob offerings. I'd like to add it to our museum's collection of telescopes
> primarily to let people know about Dobs. Too often I come across people w=
ho
> have bought some inexpensive poorly mfgered GEM that within days they
> abandon, so I want to at least show them the simplicity and ease of use o=
f a
> Dob. Maybe anywhere from $150 to $300. It could be a 4-6".
>
> Wayne T. Watson (Watson Adventures, Prop., Nevada City, CA)
> (121.015 Deg. W, 39.262 Deg. N) GMT-8 hr std. time)
> Obz Site: 39=B0 15' 7" N, 121=B0 2' 32" W, 2700 feet
> --
> "I have made this letter [e-mail] a rather long one, only
> because I didn't have the lesiure to make it shorter."
> -- Blaise Pascal
> Web Page: <home.earthlink.net/~mtnviews>
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Date: 02 Dec 2006 17:47:55
From: Paul Winalski
Subject: Re: Looking for a "Best Buy" Among Dobs
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On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:20:29 GMT, "W. Watson"
<wolf_tracks@invalid.com > wrote:
>In the spirit of Consumer Reports, I'm looking for a "Best Buy" among the
>Dob offerings. I'd like to add it to our museum's collection of telescopes
>primarily to let people know about Dobs. Too often I come across people who
>have bought some inexpensive poorly mfgered GEM that within days they
>abandon, so I want to at least show them the simplicity and ease of use of a
>Dob. Maybe anywhere from $150 to $300. It could be a 4-6".
>
Whenever I'm asked to suggest a beginner scope, I suggest the Orion
XT-6 Classic (the one without the extra "IntelliScope" hardware).
-Paul W.
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