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Date: 06 Aug 2006 00:09:37
From: bucky
Subject: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?


Tasco bought Celestron.

Me thinks Tasco will use the Celestron name
to sell overpriced low quality scopes for a fast buck.

Is there evidence that is happening yet?







 
Date: 05 Aug 2006 18:56:25
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?


Didn't you read the news last year? The people at celestron bough back the
company and tasco usa is no more, there's a tasco someplace overseas but not
here, Bushnell got all the tasco stock and stuff and has gone from being in
the dump to being in the cesspool.


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"bucky" <123abc@nospam.biz > wrote in message
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> Tasco bought Celestron.
>
> Me thinks Tasco will use the Celestron name
> to sell overpriced low quality scopes for a fast buck.
>
> Is there evidence that is happening yet?
>
>
>




  
Date: 06 Aug 2006 07:05:42
From: MT
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?



"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info > wrote in message
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> Didn't you read the news last year? The people at celestron bough back the
> company and tasco usa is no more, there's a tasco someplace overseas but
> not here, Bushnell got all the tasco stock and stuff and has gone from
> being in the dump to being in the cesspool.
>
>
>

HEY, my first telescope was 3" tasco..I wowed a lot of people when I was 12
with that thing.
I kept it until someone from my family lent it it out without my knowing
and I got it back with the mirror ruined!


HELL TO PAY I SAY!




  
Date: 07 Aug 2006 12:41:37
From: Llanzlan Klazmon
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?


"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info > wrote in
news:noudnaiwkfVQ0EjZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@inreach.com:

> Didn't you read the news last year? The people at celestron bough back
> the company and tasco usa is no more, there's a tasco someplace overseas
> but not here, Bushnell got all the tasco stock and stuff and has gone
> from being in the dump to being in the cesspool.
>

Celestron is now owned by the Taiwanese company Synta.

Klazmon.


>



   
Date: 06 Aug 2006 22:33:03
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?


I was just getting the poster out of the idea that taso now owned Celestron.


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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt > wrote in message
news:Xns98188120A416BKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...
> "Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote in
> news:noudnaiwkfVQ0EjZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@inreach.com:
>
>> Didn't you read the news last year? The people at celestron bough back
>> the company and tasco usa is no more, there's a tasco someplace overseas
>> but not here, Bushnell got all the tasco stock and stuff and has gone
>> from being in the dump to being in the cesspool.
>>
>
> Celestron is now owned by the Taiwanese company Synta.
>
> Klazmon.
>
>
>>
>




 
Date: 05 Aug 2006 17:29:34
From: Rich
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?



bucky wrote:
> Tasco bought Celestron.
>
> Me thinks Tasco will use the Celestron name
> to sell overpriced low quality scopes for a fast buck.
>
> Is there evidence that is happening yet?

Synta bought Celestron. They couched it like the Chrysler/Daimler deal
but everyone knows Daimler is in the "driver's seat."



 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 07:28:30
From: ko57
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?


"Has Tasco ruined Celestron?"

I'd hope not. I just ordered a Firstscope 70mm f12.8 EQ, can't wait to
get it, and am going to get their 15x70 SkyMaster Binoculars, to be
done with astro shopping. I think Tasco is out of Australia, anyhow,
no evidence of Tasco tampering...

Kerry Eliz.
s.e. La



  
Date: 07 Aug 2006 09:42:44
From: Michael McCulloch
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?


On 6 Aug 2006 07:28:30 -0700, "ko57" <kowen@mobiletel.com > wrote:

>and am going to get ... to be done with astro shopping.

Heh, heh. Famous last words: "done with astro shopping."

Good luck with that!

---
Michael McCulloch


   
Date: 08 Aug 2006 09:15:59
From: Chip
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?


Just a small item.
Someone said that Synta was a Taiwanese company. I thought Synta was a
mainland China (CHICOM) company.



    
Date: 08 Aug 2006 16:00:27
From: Roger Hamlett
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?



"Chip" <cruzrdrvr@comcast.net > wrote in message
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> Just a small item.
> Someone said that Synta was a Taiwanese company. I thought Synta was a
> mainland China (CHICOM) company.
Celestron was actually bought by 'SW technology corp' (Delaware US), who
are an affiliate of Synta Optical technology corp. Synta, is a Taiwanese
company (not ChiCom), but they do use component made in mainland China.

Best Wishes




    
Date: 08 Aug 2006 13:19:57
From: Phil Wheeler
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?


Chip wrote:
> Just a small item.
> Someone said that Synta was a Taiwanese company. I thought Synta was a
> mainland China (CHICOM) company.
>

Interesting question. And there is also Guan Shen. Is one PRC and the
other Taiwan?

Phil


 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 06:56:39
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?



Roger Hamlett wrote:
.
> The evidence is of movement being 'bi-directional'. So you can now buy the
> Synta HEQ5/EQ6, with the 'Skyscan' controller, while the new 6" Celestron
> OTA, is basically Synta. The external money, appears to have allowed the
> development on the electronics/hardware to continue, rather than to get
> stuck through lack of cash.


Hi Roger:

Let me add one caveat here. While the Synscan/Skyscan controllers look
a lot like the Nexstar HCs, they are quite different, and don't have
all the features of the latest Nexstar HCs.

You can't just plug a Nexstar controller into an EQ-6 or HEQ-5, either.
For one thing, both use stepper motors rather than the servos used in
the CG5 and CGE.

That said, the Skyscan HCs work well, and are being upgraded regularly.

Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of: _Choosing and Using an SCT_, and _The Urban Astronomers's
Guide_.
<http://skywatch.brainiac.com/astroland >



  
Date: 06 Aug 2006 14:34:30
From: Roger Hamlett
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?



"RMOLLISE" <rmollise@hotmail.com > wrote in message
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>
> Roger Hamlett wrote:
> .
>> The evidence is of movement being 'bi-directional'. So you can now buy
>> the
>> Synta HEQ5/EQ6, with the 'Skyscan' controller, while the new 6"
>> Celestron
>> OTA, is basically Synta. The external money, appears to have allowed
>> the
>> development on the electronics/hardware to continue, rather than to get
>> stuck through lack of cash.
>
>
> Hi Roger:
>
> Let me add one caveat here. While the Synscan/Skyscan controllers look
> a lot like the Nexstar HCs, they are quite different, and don't have
> all the features of the latest Nexstar HCs.
>
> You can't just plug a Nexstar controller into an EQ-6 or HEQ-5, either.
> For one thing, both use stepper motors rather than the servos used in
> the CG5 and CGE.
>
> That said, the Skyscan HCs work well, and are being upgraded regularly.
Yes, but I think the 'core' of the logic, seems to be from the Celestron
design, and therefore does reflect some 'bi-directionality' in the work at
the company.
The caveat is well worth making, so that people don't think the units are
exchangeable.

Best Wishes




 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 06:51:44
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?



> Tasco bought Celestron.
>
> Me thinks Tasco will use the Celestron name
> to sell overpriced low quality scopes for a fast buck.
>
> Is there evidence that is happening yet?

Hello Bunny:

Have you been sleepin' down in your rabbit hole? ;-)

Tasco went out of business...oh...'twas several years ago.

Celestron was then on their own for a while. When they (apparently) ran
into cash flow problems, they were bought by Synta. At this point, the
scopes (including the Synta made C6) appear to be as good as ever.

At this time, it appears Meade is the one you need to worry about.

And so it goes in the SCT game... ;-)

Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of: _Choosing and Using an SCT_, and _The Urban Astronomers's
Guide_.
<http://skywatch.brainiac.com/astroland >



 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 09:53:11
From: Roger Hamlett
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?



"bucky" <123abc@nospam.biz > wrote in message
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> Tasco bought Celestron.
>
> Me thinks Tasco will use the Celestron name
> to sell overpriced low quality scopes for a fast buck.
>
> Is there evidence that is happening yet?
Tasco, went into liquidation.
When Tasco liquidated, the Celestron management, bought the company
themselves. They had problems though, because they were effectively
underfunded, especially given the Meade lawsuit. Now for many years, parts
of the Celestron range have been Synta, or Synta based (the CG5 mount for
example, is made by Synta, with the electronics added by Celestron, and
the smaller refractors are Synta made). Synta bought Celestron.
The evidence is of movement being 'bi-directional'. So you can now buy the
Synta HEQ5/EQ6, with the 'Skyscan' controller, while the new 6" Celestron
OTA, is basically Synta. The external money, appears to have allowed the
development on the electronics/hardware to continue, rather than to get
stuck through lack of cash.

Best Wishes




 
Date: 06 Aug 2006 21:26:28
From:
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?



RMOLLISE wrote:
> [...]
> You can't just plug a Nexstar controller into an EQ-6 or HEQ-5, either.
> For one thing, both use stepper motors rather than the servos used in
> the CG5 and CGE.
>
> That said, the Skyscan HCs work well, and are being upgraded regularly.

How so [upgraded]? The HCs don't have FLASH RAM and there appears
to be only 2 versions "out there": 2.4 (for Orion) and 2.5 (SkyScan)
[or
maybe it's 2.04 and 2.05, respectively] per the Yahoo EQ6 group.



 
Date: 07 Aug 2006 05:04:19
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: Has Tasco ruined Celestron?



thad@thadlabs.com wrote:
> RMOLLISE wrote:
> > [...]
> > You can't just plug a Nexstar controller into an EQ-6 or HEQ-5, either.
> > For one thing, both use stepper motors rather than the servos used in
> > the CG5 and CGE.
> >
> > That said, the Skyscan HCs work well, and are being upgraded regularly.
>
> How so [upgraded]? The HCs don't have FLASH RAM and there appears
> to be only 2 versions "out there": 2.4 (for Orion) and 2.5 (SkyScan)
> [or
> maybe it's 2.04 and 2.05, respectively] per the Yahoo EQ6 group.

Hi:

What I meant was that Synta is releasting HCs with updated software
regularly (I belive folks are expecting v3.0 next). There is talk about
Synta going to a programmable HC like that which is now used on the
Nexstars, but I think the thing people really want at this time is
sync. I believe there's also talk about users being able to trade in
their old HCs (which is what Celestron was doing).

Peace,
Rod Mollise
Author of _Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope_
and
_The Urban Astronomer's Guide_
<http://skywatch.brainiac.com/astroland/index.htm >
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