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Date: 30 Oct 2006 20:06:14
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Griffith Observatory
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Question,
If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
?
The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
Krupp has been director for 33 years.
I have three phrases for this,
Boss Tweed
Tamany Hall
Disgusting Abuse of Power
Jim Klein
Guide, GO 1966-1968
Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 20:17:26
From: Matthew Ota
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
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There is a nice article about Dr. Krupp in today's LA Times describing
his tenure there.
As the Observatory reopens, this is not a time to open old wounds and
complain.
Many people in both paid and unpaid positions have worked very hard to
make the observatory into a world-class educational facility for
generations to enjoy for years to come. Like the people that volunteer
to work at Mt. Wilson, it is a labor of love.
It is time to celebrate this grand facility. Let old grudges go....
I do give you credit for using your real name and phone number, but as
the Eagles have said..."Get over it..."
Matthew Ota
totally not affiliated with Griffith Observatory in any way, but an
admirer.
Jim Klein wrote:
> Question,
>
> If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
> civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
> taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>
> Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
> William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
> Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
> ?
>
> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>
> Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>
> I have three phrases for this,
>
> Boss Tweed
>
> Tamany Hall
>
> Disgusting Abuse of Power
>
> Jim Klein
>
> Guide, GO 1966-1968
> Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>
>
>
>
>
> James E. Klein
> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>
> Engineering Calculations
> http://www.ecalculations.com
> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> Engineering Calculations is the home of
> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> for Windows.
> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> 1-818-823-4121
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 21:03:24
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
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Thursday night the local PBS channel is going to have a show about the GO
reoping.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
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www.sidewalkastronomy.info
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http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
"Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net > wrote in message
news:1162268246.517525.10990@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> There is a nice article about Dr. Krupp in today's LA Times describing
> his tenure there.
> As the Observatory reopens, this is not a time to open old wounds and
> complain.
>
> Many people in both paid and unpaid positions have worked very hard to
> make the observatory into a world-class educational facility for
> generations to enjoy for years to come. Like the people that volunteer
> to work at Mt. Wilson, it is a labor of love.
>
> It is time to celebrate this grand facility. Let old grudges go....
> I do give you credit for using your real name and phone number, but as
> the Eagles have said..."Get over it..."
>
> Matthew Ota
> totally not affiliated with Griffith Observatory in any way, but an
> admirer.
>
> Jim Klein wrote:
>> Question,
>>
>> If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>> civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>> taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>>
>> Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>> William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>> Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>> ?
>>
>> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>>
>> Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>>
>> I have three phrases for this,
>>
>> Boss Tweed
>>
>> Tamany Hall
>>
>> Disgusting Abuse of Power
>>
>> Jim Klein
>>
>> Guide, GO 1966-1968
>> Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James E. Klein
>> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>
>> Engineering Calculations
>> http://www.ecalculations.com
>> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> for Windows.
>> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> 1-818-823-4121
>
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 04:32:54
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
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"Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net > wrote:
>There is a nice article about Dr. Krupp in today's LA Times describing
>his tenure there.
>As the Observatory reopens, this is not a time to open old wounds and
>complain.
Bull Shit. Now is exactly the time to tell the god's honst truth about
how he has mistreated his employees.
>
>Many people in both paid and unpaid positions have worked very hard to
>make the observatory into a world-class educational facility for
>generations to enjoy for years to come. Like the people that volunteer
>to work at Mt. Wilson, it is a labor of love.
Go buy an astronomy text book and learn to read and do integral
calculus dip shit.
>
>It is time to celebrate this grand facility. Let old grudges go....
>I do give you credit for using your real name and phone number, but as
>the Eagles have said..."Get over it..."
Krupp made so many people miserable and if I ever find out who lit his
hamburger candle, I will take that person out to a 4 star dinner at
the restauraunt of their choice.
>
>Matthew Ota
>totally not affiliated with Griffith Observatory in any way, but an
>admirer.
You sir, are a fool and a jerk. The city of LA has been using the G.O.
to launder illegal money for years and propably will continue to do so
when our grand childeren are living in LA.
But then again, I might be wrong. Who is to say ?
>
>Jim Klein wrote:
>> Question,
>>
>> If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>> civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>> taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>>
>> Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>> William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>> Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>> ?
>>
>> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>>
>> Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>>
>> I have three phrases for this,
>>
>> Boss Tweed
>>
>> Tamany Hall
>>
>> Disgusting Abuse of Power
>>
>> Jim Klein
>>
>> Guide, GO 1966-1968
>> Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James E. Klein
>> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>
>> Engineering Calculations
>> http://www.ecalculations.com
>> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> for Windows.
>> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> 1-818-823-4121
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 04:11:35
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
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There are a lot of really bad vibes at the G. O. and have been for
many years.
Probably because of the worker's ghost that is burried in the
building, during the cement pour of 1933. A worker disappeared during
the original construction and the place has been in a state of unrest
ever since.
There have been reports of hauntings, generally after 10 pm, on Monday
nights since 1933. The City of L.A. has been covering it up ever
since.
Krupp has been in contact with the Druids trying to get rid of the
ghost but to no avail. There have been many reported "happenings" at
the G. O. The place has been in a state of psychic unrest for many
years.
Why do you think they closed it for so many years? It certainly was
not to paint the place. There have been over 20 seers there trying to
get rid of the evil spirits there. They finally gave up.
The observatory always closes at exactly 10 pm. This keeps the pubic
from frinding out about the G. O.'s dark secrets.
On ober 31, 1971 while I was the part time photographer, I
personally saw the ghost in the hall of science. It floated above the
Solar telescope window. It was very upset and it spoke to me. It was
very scary.
I had a witness with me but she refuses to testify.
Jim the photographer, G. O. 1970-1975
Jim Klein <jameseklein@earthlink.net > wrote:
>Question,
>
>If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>
>Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>?
>
>The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>
>Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>
>I have three phrases for this,
>
>Boss Tweed
>
>Tamany Hall
>
>Disgusting Abuse of Power
>
>Jim Klein
>
>Guide, GO 1966-1968
>Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>
>
>
>
>
>James E. Klein
>jameseklein@earthlink.net
>
>Engineering Calculations
>http://www.ecalculations.com
>ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>Engineering Calculations is the home of
>the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>for Windows.
>1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>1-818-823-4121
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 22:06:11
From: Anthony Ayiomamitis
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
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Jim,
Your message immediately below I think puts everything into perspective. ;-)
You would make great company for that idiot named Daniel J Min.
Anthony.
Jim Klein wrote:
> There are a lot of really bad vibes at the G. O. and have been for
> many years.
>
> Probably because of the worker's ghost that is burried in the
> building, during the cement pour of 1933. A worker disappeared during
> the original construction and the place has been in a state of unrest
> ever since.
>
> There have been reports of hauntings, generally after 10 pm, on Monday
> nights since 1933. The City of L.A. has been covering it up ever
> since.
>
> Krupp has been in contact with the Druids trying to get rid of the
> ghost but to no avail. There have been many reported "happenings" at
> the G. O. The place has been in a state of psychic unrest for many
> years.
>
> Why do you think they closed it for so many years? It certainly was
> not to paint the place. There have been over 20 seers there trying to
> get rid of the evil spirits there. They finally gave up.
>
> The observatory always closes at exactly 10 pm. This keeps the pubic
> from frinding out about the G. O.'s dark secrets.
>
> On ober 31, 1971 while I was the part time photographer, I
> personally saw the ghost in the hall of science. It floated above the
> Solar telescope window. It was very upset and it spoke to me. It was
> very scary.
>
> I had a witness with me but she refuses to testify.
>
> Jim the photographer, G. O. 1970-1975
>
>
>
> Jim Klein <jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Question,
>>
>>If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>>civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>>taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>>
>>Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>>William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>>Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>>?
>>
>>The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>>planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>>person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>>years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>>
>>Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>>
>>I have three phrases for this,
>>
>>Boss Tweed
>>
>>Tamany Hall
>>
>>Disgusting Abuse of Power
>>
>>Jim Klein
>>
>>Guide, GO 1966-1968
>>Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>James E. Klein
>>jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>
>>Engineering Calculations
>>http://www.ecalculations.com
>>ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>>Engineering Calculations is the home of
>>the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>>for Windows.
>>1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>>1-818-823-4121
>
>
> James E. Klein
> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>
> Engineering Calculations
> http://www.ecalculations.com
> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> Engineering Calculations is the home of
> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> for Windows.
> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> 1-818-823-4121
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 14:32:07
From: Mij Adyaw
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
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Is this stuff really true? I know that paranormal phenomena exists and there
is a research department at Duke University that investigates these types of
occurrences. Where can I find additional information regarding the haunting
of Griffith Observatory?
One thing really does not make sense: If the observatory really is haunted,
it seems that fact would attract even more folks and the observatory would
be more profitable.
Mij
"Anthony Ayiomamitis" <anthony@perseus.no2spam.gr > wrote in message
news:ei8acg$ijv$2@mouse.otenet.gr...
> Jim,
>
> Your message immediately below I think puts everything into perspective.
> ;-)
>
> You would make great company for that idiot named Daniel J Min.
>
> Anthony.
>
> Jim Klein wrote:
>
>> There are a lot of really bad vibes at the G. O. and have been for
>> many years.
>>
>> Probably because of the worker's ghost that is burried in the
>> building, during the cement pour of 1933. A worker disappeared during
>> the original construction and the place has been in a state of unrest
>> ever since.
>>
>> There have been reports of hauntings, generally after 10 pm, on Monday
>> nights since 1933. The City of L.A. has been covering it up ever
>> since.
>>
>> Krupp has been in contact with the Druids trying to get rid of the
>> ghost but to no avail. There have been many reported "happenings" at
>> the G. O. The place has been in a state of psychic unrest for many
>> years.
>>
>> Why do you think they closed it for so many years? It certainly was
>> not to paint the place. There have been over 20 seers there trying to
>> get rid of the evil spirits there. They finally gave up.
>>
>> The observatory always closes at exactly 10 pm. This keeps the pubic
>> from frinding out about the G. O.'s dark secrets.
>>
>> On ober 31, 1971 while I was the part time photographer, I
>> personally saw the ghost in the hall of science. It floated above the
>> Solar telescope window. It was very upset and it spoke to me. It was
>> very scary.
>>
>> I had a witness with me but she refuses to testify.
>>
>> Jim the photographer, G. O. 1970-1975
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Klein <jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Question,
>>>
>>>If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>>>civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>>>taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>>>
>>>Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>>>William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>>>Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>>>?
>>>
>>>The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>>>planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>>>person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>>>years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>>>
>>>Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>>>
>>>I have three phrases for this,
>>>
>>>Boss Tweed
>>>
>>>Tamany Hall
>>>
>>>Disgusting Abuse of Power
>>>
>>>Jim Klein
>>>
>>>Guide, GO 1966-1968
>>>Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>James E. Klein
>>>jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>>
>>>Engineering Calculations
>>>http://www.ecalculations.com
>>>ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>>>Engineering Calculations is the home of
>>>the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>>>for Windows.
>>>1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>>>1-818-823-4121
>>
>>
>> James E. Klein
>> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>
>> Engineering Calculations
>> http://www.ecalculations.com
>> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> for Windows.
>> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> 1-818-823-4121
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 01:03:06
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
Of course not. I made the whole thing up.
Funny how a human will believe in ghosts and goblins and not want to
believe that a complete ass hole can be the director of the Griffith
Observatory for over 30 years. :-)
The folks who run the Department of Parks and Recreation of Los
Angeles also belong to the Film Actors Guild.
Go Figure.
Jim Klein
"Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com > wrote:
>Is this stuff really true? I know that paranormal phenomena exists and there
>is a research department at Duke University that investigates these types of
>occurrences. Where can I find additional information regarding the haunting
>of Griffith Observatory?
>
>One thing really does not make sense: If the observatory really is haunted,
>it seems that fact would attract even more folks and the observatory would
>be more profitable.
>
>Mij
>
>"Anthony Ayiomamitis" <anthony@perseus.no2spam.gr> wrote in message
>news:ei8acg$ijv$2@mouse.otenet.gr...
>> Jim,
>>
>> Your message immediately below I think puts everything into perspective.
>> ;-)
>>
>> You would make great company for that idiot named Daniel J Min.
>>
>> Anthony.
>>
>> Jim Klein wrote:
>>
>>> There are a lot of really bad vibes at the G. O. and have been for
>>> many years.
>>>
>>> Probably because of the worker's ghost that is burried in the
>>> building, during the cement pour of 1933. A worker disappeared during
>>> the original construction and the place has been in a state of unrest
>>> ever since.
>>>
>>> There have been reports of hauntings, generally after 10 pm, on Monday
>>> nights since 1933. The City of L.A. has been covering it up ever
>>> since.
>>>
>>> Krupp has been in contact with the Druids trying to get rid of the
>>> ghost but to no avail. There have been many reported "happenings" at
>>> the G. O. The place has been in a state of psychic unrest for many
>>> years.
>>>
>>> Why do you think they closed it for so many years? It certainly was
>>> not to paint the place. There have been over 20 seers there trying to
>>> get rid of the evil spirits there. They finally gave up.
>>>
>>> The observatory always closes at exactly 10 pm. This keeps the pubic
>>> from frinding out about the G. O.'s dark secrets.
>>>
>>> On ober 31, 1971 while I was the part time photographer, I
>>> personally saw the ghost in the hall of science. It floated above the
>>> Solar telescope window. It was very upset and it spoke to me. It was
>>> very scary.
>>>
>>> I had a witness with me but she refuses to testify.
>>>
>>> Jim the photographer, G. O. 1970-1975
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jim Klein <jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Question,
>>>>
>>>>If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>>>>civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>>>>taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>>>>
>>>>Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>>>>William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>>>>Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>>>>?
>>>>
>>>>The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>>>>planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>>>>person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>>>>years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>>>>
>>>>Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>>>>
>>>>I have three phrases for this,
>>>>
>>>>Boss Tweed
>>>>
>>>>Tamany Hall
>>>>
>>>>Disgusting Abuse of Power
>>>>
>>>>Jim Klein
>>>>
>>>>Guide, GO 1966-1968
>>>>Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>James E. Klein
>>>>jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>>>
>>>>Engineering Calculations
>>>>http://www.ecalculations.com
>>>>ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>>>>Engineering Calculations is the home of
>>>>the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>>>>for Windows.
>>>>1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>>>>1-818-823-4121
>>>
>>>
>>> James E. Klein
>>> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>>
>>> Engineering Calculations
>>> http://www.ecalculations.com
>>> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>>> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>>> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>>> for Windows.
>>> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>>> 1-818-823-4121
>
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 19:25:13
From: Pierre Vandevennne
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
"Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com > wrote in
news:y6Q1h.3153$SI6.1314@newsfe13.phx:
> One thing really does not make sense: If the observatory really is
> haunted, it seems that fact would attract even more folks and the
> observatory would be more profitable.
I am sure that Anthony, who comes from the country where our philosophy and
our logic were born, fully appreciates this mix of American values: cold
rational business sense and spiritual (if I dare say so) awareness! ;-0
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 23:14:29
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
Guys, I made it up. I was messing with you. I never saw a ghost at the
G.O. although there were several heavenly bodies working as ticket
sellers.
Jim Klein
Pierre Vandevennne <pierre@datarescue_ns.com > wrote:
>"Mij Adyaw" <mij@TheBitBucket.com> wrote in
>news:y6Q1h.3153$SI6.1314@newsfe13.phx:
>
>> One thing really does not make sense: If the observatory really is
>> haunted, it seems that fact would attract even more folks and the
>> observatory would be more profitable.
>
>I am sure that Anthony, who comes from the country where our philosophy and
>our logic were born, fully appreciates this mix of American values: cold
>rational business sense and spiritual (if I dare say so) awareness! ;-0
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 14:00:39
From: The Avenging Angel
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
Jim Klein wrote:
> Question,
>
> If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
> civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
> taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>
> Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
> William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
> Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
> ?
>
> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>
> Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>
> I have three phrases for this,
>
> Boss Tweed
>
> Tamany Hall
>
> Disgusting Abuse of Power
>
> Jim Klein
>
> Guide, GO 1966-1968
> Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>
>
>
>
>
> James E. Klein
> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>
> Engineering Calculations
> http://www.ecalculations.com
> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> Engineering Calculations is the home of
> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> for Windows.
> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> 1-818-823-4121
This makes three times you have posted material attacking various
people in leadership positions at the Griffitn Observatory.
I don't even know where the Griffith Observatory is but it sounds too
me as though you must have been fired for incompetence and now you're
pissing and moaning about the people who fired you.
Go tell it to the chaplain -- maybe he'll give a shit.
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 00:19:34
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
I quite in 1975 because I could not work for of the crooked people who
were running both it and the department of parks and recreation.
I was not fired.
Never been fired from any job in my life.
They tried to fire the secretary when she blew the wistle on Kaufman
for dipping his fingers into the petty cash fund, but they were not
able to do so so. Then they put Kaufman on a one year paid leave or
absence after which Krupp was moved in.
Sounds like you are a Kruppy.
You can believe anything you want to believe about the place. Then
again, you were not there, I was.
So the citizens are not out the whole 93 mil. Considering the lack of
infrastructure in L.A., I'd say they could have used the money better
patching pot holes in the street or hiring more police.
Jim
>
>Jim Klein wrote:
>> Question,
>>
>> If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>> civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>> taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>>
>> Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>> William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>> Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>> ?
>>
>> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>>
>> Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>>
>> I have three phrases for this,
>>
>> Boss Tweed
>>
>> Tamany Hall
>>
>> Disgusting Abuse of Power
>>
>> Jim Klein
>>
>> Guide, GO 1966-1968
>> Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James E. Klein
>> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>
>> Engineering Calculations
>> http://www.ecalculations.com
>> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> for Windows.
>> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> 1-818-823-4121
>
>
>
>This makes three times you have posted material attacking various
>people in leadership positions at the Griffitn Observatory.
>
>I don't even know where the Griffith Observatory is but it sounds too
>me as though you must have been fired for incompetence and now you're
>pissing and moaning about the people who fired you.
>
>Go tell it to the chaplain -- maybe he'll give a shit.
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
|
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 00:51:16
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
Jim Klein wrote:
[Snip]
Jim,
It's better to be silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth
and remove all doubt.
Bill
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 12:39:01
From: Mike Simmons
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
On Mon, 30 2006 20:06:14 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:
> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
The City of LA did not provide all of the $93 million for the renovation
work. They provided $26.4 million. The county provided more through a
bond measure approved by the voters, the state provided a little and the
rest came from private donations including about $30 million raised by
Friends of the Observatory, $1 million from Leanoard Nimoy and more.
Many of us believe that Griffith Observatory is important enough to
renovate and improve whether it returns all of the expenditure in a short
time or not. The original donor of the funds for the observatory felt the
same way and his investment has paid off many times over in non-monetary
ways.
Mike Simmons
|
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 16:35:17
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
"Mike Simmons" <mikes@nospam.mtwilson.edu > wrote in message
news:11megw8i588y6.1ad2xz4c19jzc$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Mon, 30 2006 20:06:14 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:
>
>> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>
> The City of LA did not provide all of the $93 million for the renovation
> work. They provided $26.4 million. The county provided more through a
> bond measure approved by the voters, the state provided a little and the
> rest came from private donations including about $30 million raised by
> Friends of the Observatory, $1 million from Leanoard Nimoy and more.
>
> Many of us believe that Griffith Observatory is important enough to
> renovate and improve whether it returns all of the expenditure in a short
> time or not. The original donor of the funds for the observatory felt the
> same way and his investment has paid off many times over in non-monetary
> ways.
>
> Mike Simmons
Thanks for the REAL info, Mike...
--
Jan Owen
To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3
http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 14:30:30
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
One of the good sized donors was Mr. Spock from S.T. Himself.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
"Mike Simmons" <mikes@nospam.mtwilson.edu > wrote in message
news:11megw8i588y6.1ad2xz4c19jzc$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Mon, 30 2006 20:06:14 GMT, Jim Klein wrote:
>
>> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>
> The City of LA did not provide all of the $93 million for the renovation
> work. They provided $26.4 million. The county provided more through a
> bond measure approved by the voters, the state provided a little and the
> rest came from private donations including about $30 million raised by
> Friends of the Observatory, $1 million from Leanoard Nimoy and more.
>
> Many of us believe that Griffith Observatory is important enough to
> renovate and improve whether it returns all of the expenditure in a short
> time or not. The original donor of the funds for the observatory felt the
> same way and his investment has paid off many times over in non-monetary
> ways.
>
> Mike Simmons
|
| | | |
Date: 31 Oct 2006 12:07:05
From: Llanzlan Klazmon the 15th
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info > wrote in news:rs-
dnVF5Zfnk49vYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@inreach.com:
> One of the good sized donors was Mr. Spock from S.T. Himself.
>
>
Mike mentioned that.
Klazmon.
|
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 19:27:59
From: John Nichols
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info > wrote in message
news:rs-dnVF5Zfnk49vYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@inreach.com...
> One of the good sized donors was Mr. Spock from S.T. Himself.
>
>
> --
So just big is Mr. Spock?
|
| | | | |
Date: 31 Oct 2006 11:33:33
From: Mij Adyaw
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
May I suggest a remedial English Course, or reading your post before
pressing "enter"?
"John Nichols" <bejay@worldnet.att.net > wrote in message
news:3tN1h.157255$QZ1.76850@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote in message
> news:rs-dnVF5Zfnk49vYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@inreach.com...
>> One of the good sized donors was Mr. Spock from S.T. Himself.
>>
>>
>> --
> So just big is Mr. Spock?
>
|
| |
Date: 31 Oct 2006 07:50:13
From: Mij Adyaw
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
What is a Civil Service Exam and what does it have to do with Mr Krupp being
qualified to run the observatory? I thought Civil Service Exams are an exam
given to folks applying for a position at the local Post Office.
"Jim Klein" <jameseklein@earthlink.net > wrote in message
news:jomck2linsems3epjvik7ph4ega6kab62n@4ax.com...
> Question,
>
> If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
> civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
> taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>
> Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
> William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
> Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
> ?
>
> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>
> Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>
> I have three phrases for this,
>
> Boss Tweed
>
> Tamany Hall
>
> Disgusting Abuse of Power
>
> Jim Klein
>
> Guide, GO 1966-1968
> Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>
>
>
>
>
> James E. Klein
> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>
> Engineering Calculations
> http://www.ecalculations.com
> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> Engineering Calculations is the home of
> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> for Windows.
> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> 1-818-823-4121
|
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Date: 01 Nov 2006 02:02:23
From: Bicker
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
There any number of "civil" positions that require the civil service exam
as a standard part of an application. In some positions this requirement can be
waived. In others like law enforcement, it cannot be waived.
The poster however has longstanding deep seated issues which he
obviously has failed to adjust to and get over, to his great personal
detriment. Some people become their own worst enemies.
Mij Adyaw wrote:
> What is a Civil Service Exam and what does it have to do with Mr Krupp being
> qualified to run the observatory? I thought Civil Service Exams are an exam
> given to folks applying for a position at the local Post Office.
>
> "Jim Klein" <jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:jomck2linsems3epjvik7ph4ega6kab62n@4ax.com...
> > Question,
> >
> > If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
> > civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
> > taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
> >
> > Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
> > William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
> > Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
> > ?
> >
> > The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
> > planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
> > person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
> > years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
> >
> > Krupp has been director for 33 years.
> >
> > I have three phrases for this,
> >
> > Boss Tweed
> >
> > Tamany Hall
> >
> > Disgusting Abuse of Power
> >
> > Jim Klein
> >
> > Guide, GO 1966-1968
> > Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > James E. Klein
> > jameseklein@earthlink.net
> >
> > Engineering Calculations
> > http://www.ecalculations.com
> > ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> > Engineering Calculations is the home of
> > the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> > for Windows.
> > 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> > 1-818-823-4121
|
| | | |
Date: 01 Nov 2006 14:06:35
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
You're right.
Jim
Bicker <wicker@ai5.net > wrote:
>There any number of "civil" positions that require the civil service exam
>as a standard part of an application. In some positions this requirement can be
>waived. In others like law enforcement, it cannot be waived.
>
>The poster however has longstanding deep seated issues which he
>obviously has failed to adjust to and get over, to his great personal
>detriment. Some people become their own worst enemies.
>
>
>
>Mij Adyaw wrote:
>
>> What is a Civil Service Exam and what does it have to do with Mr Krupp being
>> qualified to run the observatory? I thought Civil Service Exams are an exam
>> given to folks applying for a position at the local Post Office.
>>
>> "Jim Klein" <jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:jomck2linsems3epjvik7ph4ega6kab62n@4ax.com...
>> > Question,
>> >
>> > If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>> > civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>> > taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>> >
>> > Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>> > William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>> > Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>> > ?
>> >
>> > The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>> > planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>> > person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>> > years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>> >
>> > Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>> >
>> > I have three phrases for this,
>> >
>> > Boss Tweed
>> >
>> > Tamany Hall
>> >
>> > Disgusting Abuse of Power
>> >
>> > Jim Klein
>> >
>> > Guide, GO 1966-1968
>> > Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > James E. Klein
>> > jameseklein@earthlink.net
>> >
>> > Engineering Calculations
>> > http://www.ecalculations.com
>> > ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> > Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> > the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> > for Windows.
>> > 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> > 1-818-823-4121
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
|
| |
Date: 31 Oct 2006 17:44:14
From: Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
Jim Klein wrote:
> There are a lot of really bad vibes at the G. O. and have been for
> many years.
>
> Probably because of the worker's ghost that is burried in the
> building, during the cement pour of 1933. A worker disappeared during
> the original construction and the place has been in a state of unrest
> ever since.
>
> There have been reports of hauntings, generally after 10 pm, on Monday
> nights since 1933. The City of L.A. has been covering it up ever
> since.
>
> Krupp has been in contact with the Druids trying to get rid of the
> ghost but to no avail. There have been many reported "happenings" at
> the G. O. The place has been in a state of psychic unrest for many
> years.
>
> Why do you think they closed it for so many years? It certainly was
> not to paint the place. There have been over 20 seers there trying to
> get rid of the evil spirits there. They finally gave up.
>
> The observatory always closes at exactly 10 pm. This keeps the pubic
> from frinding out about the G. O.'s dark secrets.
>
> On ober 31, 1971 while I was the part time photographer, I
> personally saw the ghost in the hall of science. It floated above the
> Solar telescope window. It was very upset and it spoke to me. It was
> very scary.
>
> I had a witness with me but she refuses to testify.
>
> Jim the photographer, G. O. 1970-1975
>
>
>
> Jim Klein <jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >Question,
> >
> >If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
> >civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
> >taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
> >
> >Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
> >William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
> >Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
> >?
> >
> >The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
> >planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
> >person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
> >years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
> >
> >Krupp has been director for 33 years.
> >
> >I have three phrases for this,
> >
> >Boss Tweed
> >
> >Tamany Hall
> >
> >Disgusting Abuse of Power
> >
> >Jim Klein
> >
> >Guide, GO 1966-1968
> >Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >James E. Klein
> >jameseklein@earthlink.net
> >
> >Engineering Calculations
> >http://www.ecalculations.com
> >ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> >Engineering Calculations is the home of
> >the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> >for Windows.
> >1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> >1-818-823-4121
>
> James E. Klein
> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>
> Engineering Calculations
> http://www.ecalculations.com
> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> Engineering Calculations is the home of
> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> for Windows.
> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> 1-818-823-4121
Let's see if I understand this:
-- You had a witness but she's afraid to testify.
-- Everyone there except you and your mythical witness is a crook.
-- "They" are laundering money through the observatory.
-- The observatory is haunted by the spirit of a worker killed there
during construction.
Have you told Art Bell about this stuff? Bell would love it -- you
could be on the Art Bell Show, coast to coast, fellow loons could call
in and you could share your stories.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell
Meanwhile, you need to get a new hat:
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
|
| | |
Date: 01 Nov 2006 02:12:07
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
No but it would make a pretty good B movie screen play and it is not
any stranger than the crap that really went down there in the 60s and
70s.
:-)
Jim Klein
"Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names" <PopUlist349@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
>Jim Klein wrote:
>> There are a lot of really bad vibes at the G. O. and have been for
>> many years.
>>
>> Probably because of the worker's ghost that is burried in the
>> building, during the cement pour of 1933. A worker disappeared during
>> the original construction and the place has been in a state of unrest
>> ever since.
>>
>> There have been reports of hauntings, generally after 10 pm, on Monday
>> nights since 1933. The City of L.A. has been covering it up ever
>> since.
>>
>> Krupp has been in contact with the Druids trying to get rid of the
>> ghost but to no avail. There have been many reported "happenings" at
>> the G. O. The place has been in a state of psychic unrest for many
>> years.
>>
>> Why do you think they closed it for so many years? It certainly was
>> not to paint the place. There have been over 20 seers there trying to
>> get rid of the evil spirits there. They finally gave up.
>>
>> The observatory always closes at exactly 10 pm. This keeps the pubic
>> from frinding out about the G. O.'s dark secrets.
>>
>> On ober 31, 1971 while I was the part time photographer, I
>> personally saw the ghost in the hall of science. It floated above the
>> Solar telescope window. It was very upset and it spoke to me. It was
>> very scary.
>>
>> I had a witness with me but she refuses to testify.
>>
>> Jim the photographer, G. O. 1970-1975
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim Klein <jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Question,
>> >
>> >If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>> >civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>> >taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>> >
>> >Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>> >William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>> >Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>> >?
>> >
>> >The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>> >planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>> >person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>> >years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>> >
>> >Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>> >
>> >I have three phrases for this,
>> >
>> >Boss Tweed
>> >
>> >Tamany Hall
>> >
>> >Disgusting Abuse of Power
>> >
>> >Jim Klein
>> >
>> >Guide, GO 1966-1968
>> >Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >James E. Klein
>> >jameseklein@earthlink.net
>> >
>> >Engineering Calculations
>> >http://www.ecalculations.com
>> >ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> >Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> >the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> >for Windows.
>> >1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> >1-818-823-4121
>>
>> James E. Klein
>> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>
>> Engineering Calculations
>> http://www.ecalculations.com
>> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> for Windows.
>> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> 1-818-823-4121
>
>
>
>
>Let's see if I understand this:
>
>-- You had a witness but she's afraid to testify.
>-- Everyone there except you and your mythical witness is a crook.
>-- "They" are laundering money through the observatory.
>-- The observatory is haunted by the spirit of a worker killed there
>during construction.
>
>Have you told Art Bell about this stuff? Bell would love it -- you
>could be on the Art Bell Show, coast to coast, fellow loons could call
>in and you could share your stories.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell
>
>Meanwhile, you need to get a new hat:
>http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
|
| |
Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:39:10
From: Matthew Ota
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
I sure hope that part of the GO's budget goes to adequate
security...based on some of the postings here, they will have to be
vigilant.
Matthew Ota
Bicker wrote:
> There any number of "civil" positions that require the civil service exam
> as a standard part of an application. In some positions this requirement can be
> waived. In others like law enforcement, it cannot be waived.
>
> The poster however has longstanding deep seated issues which he
> obviously has failed to adjust to and get over, to his great personal
> detriment. Some people become their own worst enemies.
>
>
>
> Mij Adyaw wrote:
>
> > What is a Civil Service Exam and what does it have to do with Mr Krupp being
> > qualified to run the observatory? I thought Civil Service Exams are an exam
> > given to folks applying for a position at the local Post Office.
> >
> > "Jim Klein" <jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:jomck2linsems3epjvik7ph4ega6kab62n@4ax.com...
> > > Question,
> > >
> > > If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
> > > civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
> > > taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
> > >
> > > Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
> > > William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
> > > Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
> > > ?
> > >
> > > The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
> > > planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
> > > person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
> > > years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
> > >
> > > Krupp has been director for 33 years.
> > >
> > > I have three phrases for this,
> > >
> > > Boss Tweed
> > >
> > > Tamany Hall
> > >
> > > Disgusting Abuse of Power
> > >
> > > Jim Klein
> > >
> > > Guide, GO 1966-1968
> > > Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > James E. Klein
> > > jameseklein@earthlink.net
> > >
> > > Engineering Calculations
> > > http://www.ecalculations.com
> > > ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> > > Engineering Calculations is the home of
> > > the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> > > for Windows.
> > > 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> > > 1-818-823-4121
|
| | |
Date: 02 Nov 2006 19:18:05
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
No worry,
I would not go there if it was the last safe place on earth
Jim
"Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net > wrote:
>I sure hope that part of the GO's budget goes to adequate
>security...based on some of the postings here, they will have to be
>vigilant.
>
>Matthew Ota
>
>
>Bicker wrote:
>> There any number of "civil" positions that require the civil service exam
>> as a standard part of an application. In some positions this requirement can be
>> waived. In others like law enforcement, it cannot be waived.
>>
>> The poster however has longstanding deep seated issues which he
>> obviously has failed to adjust to and get over, to his great personal
>> detriment. Some people become their own worst enemies.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mij Adyaw wrote:
>>
>> > What is a Civil Service Exam and what does it have to do with Mr Krupp being
>> > qualified to run the observatory? I thought Civil Service Exams are an exam
>> > given to folks applying for a position at the local Post Office.
>> >
>> > "Jim Klein" <jameseklein@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> > news:jomck2linsems3epjvik7ph4ega6kab62n@4ax.com...
>> > > Question,
>> > >
>> > > If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>> > > civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>> > > taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>> > >
>> > > Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>> > > William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>> > > Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>> > > ?
>> > >
>> > > The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>> > > planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>> > > person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>> > > years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>> > >
>> > > Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>> > >
>> > > I have three phrases for this,
>> > >
>> > > Boss Tweed
>> > >
>> > > Tamany Hall
>> > >
>> > > Disgusting Abuse of Power
>> > >
>> > > Jim Klein
>> > >
>> > > Guide, GO 1966-1968
>> > > Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > James E. Klein
>> > > jameseklein@earthlink.net
>> > >
>> > > Engineering Calculations
>> > > http://www.ecalculations.com
>> > > ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> > > Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> > > the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> > > for Windows.
>> > > 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> > > 1-818-823-4121
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
|
| |
Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:37:31
From: Matthew Ota
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
You sir, are no gentleman....
PLONK
Matthew Ota
Jim Klein wrote:
> "Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net> wrote:
>
> >There is a nice article about Dr. Krupp in today's LA Times describing
> >his tenure there.
> >As the Observatory reopens, this is not a time to open old wounds and
> >complain.
>
> Bull Shit. Now is exactly the time to tell the god's honst truth about
> how he has mistreated his employees.
> >
> >Many people in both paid and unpaid positions have worked very hard to
> >make the observatory into a world-class educational facility for
> >generations to enjoy for years to come. Like the people that volunteer
> >to work at Mt. Wilson, it is a labor of love.
>
> Go buy an astronomy text book and learn to read and do integral
> calculus dip shit.
> >
> >It is time to celebrate this grand facility. Let old grudges go....
> >I do give you credit for using your real name and phone number, but as
> >the Eagles have said..."Get over it..."
>
> Krupp made so many people miserable and if I ever find out who lit his
> hamburger candle, I will take that person out to a 4 star dinner at
> the restauraunt of their choice.
> >
> >Matthew Ota
> >totally not affiliated with Griffith Observatory in any way, but an
> >admirer.
>
> You sir, are a fool and a jerk. The city of LA has been using the G.O.
> to launder illegal money for years and propably will continue to do so
> when our grand childeren are living in LA.
>
> But then again, I might be wrong. Who is to say ?
> >
> >Jim Klein wrote:
> >> Question,
> >>
> >> If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
> >> civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
> >> taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
> >>
> >> Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
> >> William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
> >> Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
> >> ?
> >>
> >> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
> >> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
> >> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
> >> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
> >>
> >> Krupp has been director for 33 years.
> >>
> >> I have three phrases for this,
> >>
> >> Boss Tweed
> >>
> >> Tamany Hall
> >>
> >> Disgusting Abuse of Power
> >>
> >> Jim Klein
> >>
> >> Guide, GO 1966-1968
> >> Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> James E. Klein
> >> jameseklein@earthlink.net
> >>
> >> Engineering Calculations
> >> http://www.ecalculations.com
> >> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> >> Engineering Calculations is the home of
> >> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> >> for Windows.
> >> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> >> 1-818-823-4121
>
> James E. Klein
> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>
> Engineering Calculations
> http://www.ecalculations.com
> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> Engineering Calculations is the home of
> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> for Windows.
> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> 1-818-823-4121
|
| | |
Date: 02 Nov 2006 19:16:35
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
Never clained to be one.
Jim
"Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net > wrote:
>You sir, are no gentleman....
>
>
>PLONK
>
>Matthew Ota
>
>
>Jim Klein wrote:
>> "Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net> wrote:
>>
>> >There is a nice article about Dr. Krupp in today's LA Times describing
>> >his tenure there.
>> >As the Observatory reopens, this is not a time to open old wounds and
>> >complain.
>>
>> Bull Shit. Now is exactly the time to tell the god's honst truth about
>> how he has mistreated his employees.
>> >
>> >Many people in both paid and unpaid positions have worked very hard to
>> >make the observatory into a world-class educational facility for
>> >generations to enjoy for years to come. Like the people that volunteer
>> >to work at Mt. Wilson, it is a labor of love.
>>
>> Go buy an astronomy text book and learn to read and do integral
>> calculus dip shit.
>> >
>> >It is time to celebrate this grand facility. Let old grudges go....
>> >I do give you credit for using your real name and phone number, but as
>> >the Eagles have said..."Get over it..."
>>
>> Krupp made so many people miserable and if I ever find out who lit his
>> hamburger candle, I will take that person out to a 4 star dinner at
>> the restauraunt of their choice.
>> >
>> >Matthew Ota
>> >totally not affiliated with Griffith Observatory in any way, but an
>> >admirer.
>>
>> You sir, are a fool and a jerk. The city of LA has been using the G.O.
>> to launder illegal money for years and propably will continue to do so
>> when our grand childeren are living in LA.
>>
>> But then again, I might be wrong. Who is to say ?
>> >
>> >Jim Klein wrote:
>> >> Question,
>> >>
>> >> If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>> >> civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>> >> taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>> >>
>> >> Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>> >> William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>> >> Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>> >> ?
>> >>
>> >> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>> >> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>> >> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>> >> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>> >>
>> >> Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>> >>
>> >> I have three phrases for this,
>> >>
>> >> Boss Tweed
>> >>
>> >> Tamany Hall
>> >>
>> >> Disgusting Abuse of Power
>> >>
>> >> Jim Klein
>> >>
>> >> Guide, GO 1966-1968
>> >> Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> James E. Klein
>> >> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>> >>
>> >> Engineering Calculations
>> >> http://www.ecalculations.com
>> >> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> >> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> >> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> >> for Windows.
>> >> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> >> 1-818-823-4121
>>
>> James E. Klein
>> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>
>> Engineering Calculations
>> http://www.ecalculations.com
>> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> for Windows.
>> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> 1-818-823-4121
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
|
| |
Date: 02 Nov 2006 01:35:14
From: Matthew Ota
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
Yes it will be Huell Howser's show.
I talked with Mary Brown of the LAAS and she will be at the opening
ceremony. She is one of many who have worked hard and will continue to
work hard to make GO a success. SHe is spending many weekends there,
volunteering.
Matthew Ota
Starlord wrote:
> Thursday night the local PBS channel is going to have a show about the GO
> reoping.
>
>
> --
> The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
>
> Telescope Buyers FAQ
> http://home.inreach.com/starlord
> Sidewalk Astronomy
> www.sidewalkastronomy.info
> The Church of Eternity
> http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
>
>
> "Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:1162268246.517525.10990@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > There is a nice article about Dr. Krupp in today's LA Times describing
> > his tenure there.
> > As the Observatory reopens, this is not a time to open old wounds and
> > complain.
> >
> > Many people in both paid and unpaid positions have worked very hard to
> > make the observatory into a world-class educational facility for
> > generations to enjoy for years to come. Like the people that volunteer
> > to work at Mt. Wilson, it is a labor of love.
> >
> > It is time to celebrate this grand facility. Let old grudges go....
> > I do give you credit for using your real name and phone number, but as
> > the Eagles have said..."Get over it..."
> >
> > Matthew Ota
> > totally not affiliated with Griffith Observatory in any way, but an
> > admirer.
> >
> > Jim Klein wrote:
> >> Question,
> >>
> >> If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
> >> civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
> >> taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
> >>
> >> Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
> >> William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
> >> Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
> >> ?
> >>
> >> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
> >> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
> >> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
> >> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
> >>
> >> Krupp has been director for 33 years.
> >>
> >> I have three phrases for this,
> >>
> >> Boss Tweed
> >>
> >> Tamany Hall
> >>
> >> Disgusting Abuse of Power
> >>
> >> Jim Klein
> >>
> >> Guide, GO 1966-1968
> >> Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> James E. Klein
> >> jameseklein@earthlink.net
> >>
> >> Engineering Calculations
> >> http://www.ecalculations.com
> >> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> >> Engineering Calculations is the home of
> >> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> >> for Windows.
> >> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> >> 1-818-823-4121
> >
|
| | |
Date: 02 Nov 2006 23:34:44
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
Dear Hiroshi Ota,
I tried to send you an email but it bounced.
I really love it when you guys have the words but you don't have the
balls to leave a real email address.
Your old man was the commander on Tarawa, wasn't he ?
Jim Klein
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
|
| | |
Date: 02 Nov 2006 19:45:35
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
Considering the G.O. hosted the optical shop of the LAAS from 1934 to
1971 and then was ejected like a bad warp core it is surprising that
the LAAS is on that good of terms with the G. O.
A lot of French collaborated with the NAZIs during WWII thinking that
they were not dealing with the devil but making the best out of a bad
situation. They found themselves with a lot of short hair cuts in
1944.
I bet she never knew what it was like under Dr Clemeshaw's
administration when part time guides and other employees were treated
with respect.
Then again, maybe she is a KRUPPIE.
"Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net > wrote:
>Yes it will be Huell Howser's show.
>
>I talked with Mary Brown of the LAAS and she will be at the opening
>ceremony. She is one of many who have worked hard and will continue to
>work hard to make GO a success. SHe is spending many weekends there,
>volunteering.
>
>Matthew Ota
>
>
>Starlord wrote:
>> Thursday night the local PBS channel is going to have a show about the GO
>> reoping.
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
>>
>> Telescope Buyers FAQ
>> http://home.inreach.com/starlord
>> Sidewalk Astronomy
>> www.sidewalkastronomy.info
>> The Church of Eternity
>> http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
>>
>>
>> "Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
>> news:1162268246.517525.10990@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > There is a nice article about Dr. Krupp in today's LA Times describing
>> > his tenure there.
>> > As the Observatory reopens, this is not a time to open old wounds and
>> > complain.
>> >
>> > Many people in both paid and unpaid positions have worked very hard to
>> > make the observatory into a world-class educational facility for
>> > generations to enjoy for years to come. Like the people that volunteer
>> > to work at Mt. Wilson, it is a labor of love.
>> >
>> > It is time to celebrate this grand facility. Let old grudges go....
>> > I do give you credit for using your real name and phone number, but as
>> > the Eagles have said..."Get over it..."
>> >
>> > Matthew Ota
>> > totally not affiliated with Griffith Observatory in any way, but an
>> > admirer.
>> >
>> > Jim Klein wrote:
>> >> Question,
>> >>
>> >> If the directorship of the Los Angleles Griffith Observatoy is a
>> >> civil service position, how did Ed Krupp get the job without ever
>> >> taking a Civil Service Exam. ?
>> >>
>> >> Maybe covering up for the petty theif who was the director before him,
>> >> William (Billy Jerk) Kaufmann and becoming part of the Department of
>> >> Parks and Recreation Treft Ring cover up had something to do with it ?
>> >> ?
>> >>
>> >> The city of LA spent 93 milliom dollars rebuilding the GO. The
>> >> planetarioum theater holds about 400 people per show. At $15.00 per
>> >> person per show and at three shows per day, it will take about 43
>> >> years to pay this back to the citizens of L. A.
>> >>
>> >> Krupp has been director for 33 years.
>> >>
>> >> I have three phrases for this,
>> >>
>> >> Boss Tweed
>> >>
>> >> Tamany Hall
>> >>
>> >> Disgusting Abuse of Power
>> >>
>> >> Jim Klein
>> >>
>> >> Guide, GO 1966-1968
>> >> Part Time Photographer 1970-1974
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> James E. Klein
>> >> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>> >>
>> >> Engineering Calculations
>> >> http://www.ecalculations.com
>> >> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> >> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> >> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> >> for Windows.
>> >> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> >> 1-818-823-4121
>> >
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
|
| |
Date: 05 Nov 2006 23:11:23
From: Matthew Ota
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
My old man was an American Nisei, incarcerated illegally and unjustly
at Poston Arizona duirng WWII courtesy of the U.S. Government. He was
born an American and died an American. He was 14 years old during WWII
and had nothing to do with the Imperial Japanese Army. As a matter of
fact he served in the US Army during the Korean War as a U.S. Infantry
soldier.
Matthewota@yahoo.com
Jim Klein wrote:
> Dear Hiroshi Ota,
>
> I tried to send you an email but it bounced.
>
> I really love it when you guys have the words but you don't have the
> balls to leave a real email address.
>
> Your old man was the commander on Tarawa, wasn't he ?
>
> Jim Klein
>
>
>
> James E. Klein
> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>
> Engineering Calculations
> http://www.ecalculations.com
> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
> Engineering Calculations is the home of
> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
> for Windows.
> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
> 1-818-823-4121
|
| | |
Date: 06 Nov 2006 19:13:47
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
Ain't America great. As long as you are Anglo Saxon Protestant, your
off the hook unless you kill and eat people. The rest of us get to
prove our worth every damn day.
You should have tried being a short fat German square head kid at
Loyola High School in the 60's, filled with rich little Catholic Irish
Brats.
They never let me forget for one day that suspected me of being a
German Jew with a strangely shaped head.
I feel sorry now for folks from the Mid-East (ain't talking Chicago).
Guess it is there turn in the American crapper.
Oh, just because I'm an ass on the internaet, that does not make Krupp
cool.
One of the G.O.s artists nicknamed him the Teutonic Twerp, which still
seems to be an accurate description.
Jim Klein
"Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net > wrote:
>My old man was an American Nisei, incarcerated illegally and unjustly
>at Poston Arizona duirng WWII courtesy of the U.S. Government. He was
>born an American and died an American. He was 14 years old during WWII
>and had nothing to do with the Imperial Japanese Army. As a matter of
>fact he served in the US Army during the Korean War as a U.S. Infantry
>soldier.
>
>Matthewota@yahoo.com
>
>
>Jim Klein wrote:
>> Dear Hiroshi Ota,
>>
>> I tried to send you an email but it bounced.
>>
>> I really love it when you guys have the words but you don't have the
>> balls to leave a real email address.
>>
>> Your old man was the commander on Tarawa, wasn't he ?
>>
>> Jim Klein
>>
>>
>>
>> James E. Klein
>> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>
>> Engineering Calculations
>> http://www.ecalculations.com
>> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> for Windows.
>> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> 1-818-823-4121
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
|
| | |
Date: 06 Nov 2006 18:57:13
From: Jim Klein
Subject: Re: Griffith Observatory
|
"Matthew Ota" <otakenji@bigvalley.net > wrote:
>My old man was an American Nisei, incarcerated illegally and unjustly
>at Poston Arizona duirng WWII courtesy of the U.S. Government. He was
>born an American and died an American. He was 14 years old during WWII
>and had nothing to do with the Imperial Japanese Army. As a matter of
>fact he served in the US Army during the Korean War as a U.S. Infantry
>soldier.
My old man's family was unjustly persecuted in WWI cause he had a
kraut name.
Welcome to the club.
Jim Klein
>
>Matthewota@yahoo.com
>
>
>Jim Klein wrote:
>> Dear Hiroshi Ota,
>>
>> I tried to send you an email but it bounced.
>>
>> I really love it when you guys have the words but you don't have the
>> balls to leave a real email address.
>>
>> Your old man was the commander on Tarawa, wasn't he ?
>>
>> Jim Klein
>>
>>
>>
>> James E. Klein
>> jameseklein@earthlink.net
>>
>> Engineering Calculations
>> http://www.ecalculations.com
>> ecalculations@ecalculations.com
>> Engineering Calculations is the home of
>> the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
>> for Windows.
>> 1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
>> 1-818-823-4121
James E. Klein
jameseklein@earthlink.net
Engineering Calculations
http://www.ecalculations.com
ecalculations@ecalculations.com
Engineering Calculations is the home of
the KDP-2 Optical Design Program
for Windows.
1-818-507-5706 (Voice and Fax)
1-818-823-4121
|
|
