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Date: 12 Dec 2006 23:28:55
From: Planetary Friend
Subject: "Copernican Revolution" R.I.P.
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References: <1165839805.924879.51070@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com > <c849c6b7a167b3886b78f0b2fb0c3bf5@4096.net> <87389b905d27c418b47ee92c80c6a053@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> <1165939901.988046.94150@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
See: 'De revolutionibus orbium coelestium libri VI':
http://pka.bj.uj.edu.pl/bjmanus/revol/titlpg_e.html
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Not only did Copernicus seek to re-order the heavens,
he conspicuously ignored Earth's place at the center
of her caelestial sphere. That was his fatal blunder.
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Copernicus tried to confuse the heavens, re-numbering
Earth's caelestial sphere first instead of eighth, as
Nick renumbered Saturn second instead of seventh, and
Jupiter third instead of sixth, also renumbering Mars
fourth instead of fifth, Earth fifth instead of tenth;
IGNORING THE MOON he renumbers Venus sixth instead of
third, Mercury seventh instead of second, ad nauseam!
This first chart summarizes synodic & sidereal
periods of the planets in mean solar days, and
mean tropical years, to measure sidereal years.
This is especially important, since it *proves*
that the order of the heavens is established by
sidereal--not synodic--periods of the planets:
^^^^^^^^
THE TEN PLANETARY ORBITS
S# Pla Synod Sider. /TropY
*10 Plu 366.7 90800. 247.9
*9 Nep 367.5 60190. 164.8
*8 Ura 369.7 30685. 84.02
7 Sat 378.1 10760. 29.45
6 Jup 399.9 4332.2 11.86
5 Mar 780.0 686.98 1.881
4 Sun ----- 365.26 1.000
3 Ven 583.9 224.70 0.615
2 Mer 115.9 87.969 0.241
1 Moo 29.53 27.322 0.075
^^^^^^
*NOTE:Ura rules Earth's sidereal year =~ 1.00004
Nep rules Earth's tropical year =~ 1.00000
Plu rules Earth's own geocenter =~ 0.00000.
Cf. the above with this chart dated cir. 440 AD, which
agrees with Greco-Roman authorities dated centuries BC;
that's centuries **BEFORE CHRIST**, you do the math....
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COELVM EMPIREVM HABITACVLVM DEI ET OMNIVM ELECTORVM
Heaven Name Sphere Mvsa Goddess
X Primvm Mobile Earth/Plvton Mnemosyne Memory
IX Mobile Seasons/Neptvne Thalia Comedy
VIII Caelest.Firma. Stars/Vranvs Vrania Astronomy
VII SATVRNI Satvrn Polihymnia Hymnody
VI IOVIS Jvpiter Evterpe Melody
V MARTIS Mars Eratho Lyric
IV SOLIS Svn Melpomene Tragedy
III VENERIS Venvs Terpsicore Dance
II MERCVRII Mercvry Kaliope Epic
I LVNE Moon Klio History
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THIS DEMONSTRATES CONCLUSIVELY THAT ancient astronomers
knew full-well that the planets orbit with the Sun, and
knew the Earth is the center of her caelestial firmament!
Notably, the explictly sidereal numbering of the heavens
coupled with the very obvious fact that the Earth is the
center of her caelestial sphere, these facts prove that
Copernicus was a heretic. Only fools ignore the evidence,
choosing instead to perpetuate their Copernican delusion:
seeing that Atheists are adept at perpetuating delusions! :-D
_____________________________________________________________
Finally, be sure to read how each planet's side-
real & synodic orbit is readily observed in the
night sky just as they've always been since the
dawn of the human race. Anyone who still claims
that ancient astronomers couldn't distinguish be-
tween sidereal & synodic planetary orbits isn't
facing the facts--simply because the facts show
that they're liars and frauds! It's that simple.
For further information on how easy it is to observe
and predict the synodic -and- orbital periods of the
ten planets of heaven, just as the ancients did, see:
*Min's 'Observing and Predicting Planetary Orbits':
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852@twistycreek.com
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852 <AT > twistycreek.com
"kpdocs@operamail.com" lamented in vain:
>Sadly, this kind of people start influencing education in Poland. But
"Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"
--William of Ockham (~1300-1349)
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 18:38:03
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: "Copernican Revolution" R.I.P.
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Abd once more old DMJ shows just how STUPID he really is.
--
There are those who believe that life here, began out there, far across the
universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the
Egyptians, or the Toltechs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may yet be
brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the
heavens.
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
The Church of Eternity
http://home.inreach.com/starlord/church/Eternity.html
"Planetary Friend" AKA DJM the Internet fool.
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 23:28:00
From: Mike
Subject: Re: "Copernican Revolution" R.I.P.
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Can anyone explain this idiotic madness?
> THE TEN PLANETARY ORBITS
> S# Pla Synod Sider. /TropY
> *10 Plu 366.7 90800. 247.9
> *9 Nep 367.5 60190. 164.8
> *8 Ura 369.7 30685. 84.02
> 7 Sat 378.1 10760. 29.45
> 6 Jup 399.9 4332.2 11.86
> 5 Mar 780.0 686.98 1.881
> 4 Sun ----- 365.26 1.000
> 3 Ven 583.9 224.70 0.615
> 2 Mer 115.9 87.969 0.241
> 1 Moo 29.53 27.322 0.075
> ^^^^^^
> *NOTE:Ura rules Earth's sidereal year =~ 1.00004
> Nep rules Earth's tropical year =~ 1.00000
> Plu rules Earth's own geocenter =~ 0.00000.
>
> Cf. the above with this chart dated cir. 440 AD, which
> agrees with Greco-Roman authorities dated centuries BC;
> that's centuries **BEFORE CHRIST**, you do the math....
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> COELVM EMPIREVM HABITACVLVM DEI ET OMNIVM ELECTORVM
> Heaven Name Sphere Mvsa Goddess
> X Primvm Mobile Earth/Plvton Mnemosyne Memory
> IX Mobile Seasons/Neptvne Thalia Comedy
> VIII Caelest.Firma. Stars/Vranvs Vrania Astronomy
> VII SATVRNI Satvrn Polihymnia Hymnody
> VI IOVIS Jvpiter Evterpe Melody
> V MARTIS Mars Eratho Lyric
> IV SOLIS Svn Melpomene Tragedy
> III VENERIS Venvs Terpsicore Dance
> II MERCVRII Mercvry Kaliope Epic
> I LVNE Moon Klio History
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> THIS DEMONSTRATES CONCLUSIVELY THAT ancient astronomers
> knew full-well that the planets orbit with the Sun, and
> knew the Earth is the center of her caelestial firmament!
> Notably, the explictly sidereal numbering of the heavens
> coupled with the very obvious fact that the Earth is the
> center of her caelestial sphere, these facts prove that
> Copernicus was a heretic. Only fools ignore the evidence,
> choosing instead to perpetuate their Copernican delusion:
> seeing that Atheists are adept at perpetuating delusions! :-D
> _____________________________________________________________
>
> Finally, be sure to read how each planet's side-
> real & synodic orbit is readily observed in the
> night sky just as they've always been since the
> dawn of the human race. Anyone who still claims
> that ancient astronomers couldn't distinguish be-
> tween sidereal & synodic planetary orbits isn't
> facing the facts--simply because the facts show
> that they're liars and frauds! It's that simple.
>
> For further information on how easy it is to observe
> and predict the synodic -and- orbital periods of the
> ten planets of heaven, just as the ancients did, see:
>
> *Min's 'Observing and Predicting Planetary Orbits':
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852@twistycreek.com
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852 <AT>
> twistycreek.com
>
> "kpdocs@operamail.com" lamented in vain:
>>Sadly, this kind of people start influencing education in Poland. But
>
> "Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"
> --William of Ockham (~1300-1349)
>
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 23:36:49
From: Alan French
Subject: Re: "Copernican Revolution" R.I.P.
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I think you just did.
"Mike" <mike@yahoo.net > wrote in message
news:4WGfh.58703$YV4.30625@edtnps89...
>
>
>
> Can anyone explain this idiotic madness?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > THE TEN PLANETARY ORBITS
> > S# Pla Synod Sider. /TropY
> > *10 Plu 366.7 90800. 247.9
> > *9 Nep 367.5 60190. 164.8
> > *8 Ura 369.7 30685. 84.02
> > 7 Sat 378.1 10760. 29.45
> > 6 Jup 399.9 4332.2 11.86
> > 5 Mar 780.0 686.98 1.881
> > 4 Sun ----- 365.26 1.000
> > 3 Ven 583.9 224.70 0.615
> > 2 Mer 115.9 87.969 0.241
> > 1 Moo 29.53 27.322 0.075
> > ^^^^^^
> > *NOTE:Ura rules Earth's sidereal year =~ 1.00004
> > Nep rules Earth's tropical year =~ 1.00000
> > Plu rules Earth's own geocenter =~ 0.00000.
> >
> > Cf. the above with this chart dated cir. 440 AD, which
> > agrees with Greco-Roman authorities dated centuries BC;
> > that's centuries **BEFORE CHRIST**, you do the math....
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > COELVM EMPIREVM HABITACVLVM DEI ET OMNIVM ELECTORVM
> > Heaven Name Sphere Mvsa Goddess
> > X Primvm Mobile Earth/Plvton Mnemosyne Memory
> > IX Mobile Seasons/Neptvne Thalia Comedy
> > VIII Caelest.Firma. Stars/Vranvs Vrania Astronomy
> > VII SATVRNI Satvrn Polihymnia Hymnody
> > VI IOVIS Jvpiter Evterpe Melody
> > V MARTIS Mars Eratho Lyric
> > IV SOLIS Svn Melpomene Tragedy
> > III VENERIS Venvs Terpsicore Dance
> > II MERCVRII Mercvry Kaliope Epic
> > I LVNE Moon Klio History
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > THIS DEMONSTRATES CONCLUSIVELY THAT ancient astronomers
> > knew full-well that the planets orbit with the Sun, and
> > knew the Earth is the center of her caelestial firmament!
> > Notably, the explictly sidereal numbering of the heavens
> > coupled with the very obvious fact that the Earth is the
> > center of her caelestial sphere, these facts prove that
> > Copernicus was a heretic. Only fools ignore the evidence,
> > choosing instead to perpetuate their Copernican delusion:
> > seeing that Atheists are adept at perpetuating delusions! :-D
> > _____________________________________________________________
> >
> > Finally, be sure to read how each planet's side-
> > real & synodic orbit is readily observed in the
> > night sky just as they've always been since the
> > dawn of the human race. Anyone who still claims
> > that ancient astronomers couldn't distinguish be-
> > tween sidereal & synodic planetary orbits isn't
> > facing the facts--simply because the facts show
> > that they're liars and frauds! It's that simple.
> >
> > For further information on how easy it is to observe
> > and predict the synodic -and- orbital periods of the
> > ten planets of heaven, just as the ancients did, see:
> >
> > *Min's 'Observing and Predicting Planetary Orbits':
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852@twistycreek.com
> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852 <AT>
> > twistycreek.com
> >
> > "kpdocs@operamail.com" lamented in vain:
> >>Sadly, this kind of people start influencing education in Poland. But
> >
> > "Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"
> > --William of Ockham (~1300-1349)
> >
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 00:02:38
From: Mike
Subject: Re: "Copernican Revolution" R.I.P.
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"Alan French" <adfrenchremoveallthis@nycap.rr.com > wrote in message
news:l2Hfh.2867$D9.102@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>I think you just did.
How so?
>
> "Mike" <mike@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:4WGfh.58703$YV4.30625@edtnps89...
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone explain this idiotic madness?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > THE TEN PLANETARY ORBITS
>> > S# Pla Synod Sider. /TropY
>> > *10 Plu 366.7 90800. 247.9
>> > *9 Nep 367.5 60190. 164.8
>> > *8 Ura 369.7 30685. 84.02
>> > 7 Sat 378.1 10760. 29.45
>> > 6 Jup 399.9 4332.2 11.86
>> > 5 Mar 780.0 686.98 1.881
>> > 4 Sun ----- 365.26 1.000
>> > 3 Ven 583.9 224.70 0.615
>> > 2 Mer 115.9 87.969 0.241
>> > 1 Moo 29.53 27.322 0.075
>> > ^^^^^^
>> > *NOTE:Ura rules Earth's sidereal year =~ 1.00004
>> > Nep rules Earth's tropical year =~ 1.00000
>> > Plu rules Earth's own geocenter =~ 0.00000.
>> >
>> > Cf. the above with this chart dated cir. 440 AD, which
>> > agrees with Greco-Roman authorities dated centuries BC;
>> > that's centuries **BEFORE CHRIST**, you do the math....
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------
>> > COELVM EMPIREVM HABITACVLVM DEI ET OMNIVM ELECTORVM
>> > Heaven Name Sphere Mvsa Goddess
>> > X Primvm Mobile Earth/Plvton Mnemosyne Memory
>> > IX Mobile Seasons/Neptvne Thalia Comedy
>> > VIII Caelest.Firma. Stars/Vranvs Vrania Astronomy
>> > VII SATVRNI Satvrn Polihymnia Hymnody
>> > VI IOVIS Jvpiter Evterpe Melody
>> > V MARTIS Mars Eratho Lyric
>> > IV SOLIS Svn Melpomene Tragedy
>> > III VENERIS Venvs Terpsicore Dance
>> > II MERCVRII Mercvry Kaliope Epic
>> > I LVNE Moon Klio History
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------
>> > THIS DEMONSTRATES CONCLUSIVELY THAT ancient astronomers
>> > knew full-well that the planets orbit with the Sun, and
>> > knew the Earth is the center of her caelestial firmament!
>> > Notably, the explictly sidereal numbering of the heavens
>> > coupled with the very obvious fact that the Earth is the
>> > center of her caelestial sphere, these facts prove that
>> > Copernicus was a heretic. Only fools ignore the evidence,
>> > choosing instead to perpetuate their Copernican delusion:
>> > seeing that Atheists are adept at perpetuating delusions! :-D
>> > _____________________________________________________________
>> >
>> > Finally, be sure to read how each planet's side-
>> > real & synodic orbit is readily observed in the
>> > night sky just as they've always been since the
>> > dawn of the human race. Anyone who still claims
>> > that ancient astronomers couldn't distinguish be-
>> > tween sidereal & synodic planetary orbits isn't
>> > facing the facts--simply because the facts show
>> > that they're liars and frauds! It's that simple.
>> >
>> > For further information on how easy it is to observe
>> > and predict the synodic -and- orbital periods of the
>> > ten planets of heaven, just as the ancients did, see:
>> >
>> > *Min's 'Observing and Predicting Planetary Orbits':
>> >
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852@twistycreek.com
>> > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852 <AT>
>> > twistycreek.com
>> >
>> > "kpdocs@operamail.com" lamented in vain:
>> >>Sadly, this kind of people start influencing education in Poland. But
>> >
>> > "Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"
>> > --William of Ockham (~1300-1349)
>> >
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Date: 12 Dec 2006 18:23:50
From: Pat O'Connell
Subject: Re: "Copernican Revolution" R.I.P.
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Mike wrote:
> "Alan French" <adfrenchremoveallthis@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:l2Hfh.2867$D9.102@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>I think you just did.
>
> How so?
>
>>
>> "Mike" <mike@yahoo.net> wrote in message
>> news:4WGfh.58703$YV4.30625@edtnps89...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Can anyone explain this idiotic madness?
Danny's doin' meth again...
--
Pat O'Connell
[note munged EMail address]
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...
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Date: 13 Dec 2006 21:15:30
From: Mike
Subject: Ode to DJM
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"... a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage, and then
is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing."
>
> This first chart summarizes synodic & sidereal
> periods of the planets in mean solar days, and
> mean tropical years, to measure sidereal years.
> This is especially important, since it *proves*
> that the order of the heavens is established by
> sidereal--not synodic--periods of the planets:
> ^^^^^^^^
> THE TEN PLANETARY ORBITS
> S# Pla Synod Sider. /TropY
> *10 Plu 366.7 90800. 247.9
> *9 Nep 367.5 60190. 164.8
> *8 Ura 369.7 30685. 84.02
> 7 Sat 378.1 10760. 29.45
> 6 Jup 399.9 4332.2 11.86
> 5 Mar 780.0 686.98 1.881
> 4 Sun ----- 365.26 1.000
> 3 Ven 583.9 224.70 0.615
> 2 Mer 115.9 87.969 0.241
> 1 Moo 29.53 27.322 0.075
> ^^^^^^
> *NOTE:Ura rules Earth's sidereal year =~ 1.00004
> Nep rules Earth's tropical year =~ 1.00000
> Plu rules Earth's own geocenter =~ 0.00000.
>
> Cf. the above with this chart dated cir. 440 AD, which
> agrees with Greco-Roman authorities dated centuries BC;
> that's centuries **BEFORE CHRIST**, you do the math....
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> COELVM EMPIREVM HABITACVLVM DEI ET OMNIVM ELECTORVM
> Heaven Name Sphere Mvsa Goddess
> X Primvm Mobile Earth/Plvton Mnemosyne Memory
> IX Mobile Seasons/Neptvne Thalia Comedy
> VIII Caelest.Firma. Stars/Vranvs Vrania Astronomy
> VII SATVRNI Satvrn Polihymnia Hymnody
> VI IOVIS Jvpiter Evterpe Melody
> V MARTIS Mars Eratho Lyric
> IV SOLIS Svn Melpomene Tragedy
> III VENERIS Venvs Terpsicore Dance
> II MERCVRII Mercvry Kaliope Epic
> I LVNE Moon Klio History
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> THIS DEMONSTRATES CONCLUSIVELY THAT ancient astronomers
> knew full-well that the planets orbit with the Sun, and
> knew the Earth is the center of her caelestial firmament!
> Notably, the explictly sidereal numbering of the heavens
> coupled with the very obvious fact that the Earth is the
> center of her caelestial sphere, these facts prove that
> Copernicus was a heretic. Only fools ignore the evidence,
> choosing instead to perpetuate their Copernican delusion:
> seeing that Atheists are adept at perpetuating delusions! :-D
> _____________________________________________________________
>
> Finally, be sure to read how each planet's side-
> real & synodic orbit is readily observed in the
> night sky just as they've always been since the
> dawn of the human race. Anyone who still claims
> that ancient astronomers couldn't distinguish be-
> tween sidereal & synodic planetary orbits isn't
> facing the facts--simply because the facts show
> that they're liars and frauds! It's that simple.
>
> For further information on how easy it is to observe
> and predict the synodic -and- orbital periods of the
> ten planets of heaven, just as the ancients did, see:
>
> *Min's 'Observing and Predicting Planetary Orbits':
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852@twistycreek.com
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=BVNNKOHL38924.9795601852 <AT>
> twistycreek.com
>
> "kpdocs@operamail.com" lamented in vain:
>>Sadly, this kind of people start influencing education in Poland. But
>
> "Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"
> --William of Ockham (~1300-1349)
>
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Date: 14 Dec 2006 00:09:41
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: Ode to DJM
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"Mike" <mike@yahoo.net > wrote in message =
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