Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

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Date: 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40
From: Kind & Gentle
Subject: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

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Just saw this. Seriously, mine's going in the mail
Monday morning. And even though they so very much
deserve it, having earned it since 1947 & counting,
I'm not making any references to the Anti-Christian
Liberal Union, etc., but only wishing them a Merry
Christmas & Happy New Year -- in the true spirit of
Christmas. Let's hope the ACLU gets several hundred
*million* Jesus-Christ-Is-LORD-mass cards this year...

Google "125 Broad" AND "New York" AND "Christmas card":

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22125+Broad%22+%22New+York%22+%22Christmas+card%22&adult_done=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch&adult_cancel=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fweb%2Fadvanced&_adv_prop=web&ei=UTF-8&vst=0&vf=all&vm=i&fl=0&n=100

http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/ImageInfo.aspx?T=2&S=12&Z=18&X=729&Y=5632&W=2&qs=125+Broad+St%7cNew+York%7c&Addr=125+Broad+St%2c+New+York%2c+NY+10004-2400&ALon=-74.0114400&ALat=40.7027660

Address your Christmas card envelopes to:

ACLU
125 Broad St #18
New York, NY 10004-2427
Tele: (212) 549-2500

Be sure to select Christmas Cards with traditional
Judeo-Christian themes, Star of Bethlehem, Nativity
scenes, the blessed Vestal Virgin and Mother of God
Miryam cradling the new-born infant Jesus wrapped
in swaddling clothes, being cradled in the hay-filled
trough under the grotto in east Beythlechem, City of
David, House of Bread, etc. And by all means, pick
cards that quote the Bible! The ACLU *loves* to be
reminded that Jesus is LORD of lords, King of kings,
(i.e., even born Prince and King of the Jews). They
really love to hear beautiful quotes from the Bible.

The A.C.L.U. wants *you* to send them a card this year.
Please forward this message to everyone you know, and
ask them to do the same, to at least ten other email
addresses.

And please, above all: be kind, and civil. *Kill* them
with kindness, because God's love is the one invincible
weapon that even the Liberal Atheist ACLU lawyers can't
defend against!

Io Saturnalia!
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/

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Date: 03 Dec 2006 01:00:59
From: John Baker
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle
<love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself > wrote:

And while you're at it, Danny, don't forget to include a little note
with that card thanking the ACLU for defending the First Amendment
rights that guarantee you the freedom to shit all over Usenet.

Date: 03 Dec 2006 19:18:38
From: Trent
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net > wrote in message
news:6up4n2l9sa83j8sik51sagf8q2vfh9j2oq@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle
> <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself> wrote:
>
> And while you're at it, Danny, don't forget to include a little note
> with that card thanking the ACLU for defending the First Amendment
> rights that guarantee you the freedom to shit all over Usenet.
>
>

Yes, but now days they are getting out of hand, such as defending "rights"
to people who entered the country illegally and now tring to expand their
horizons to outside the US.

Date: 03 Dec 2006 19:34:45
From: Mike Painter
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Trent wrote:
> "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
> news:6up4n2l9sa83j8sik51sagf8q2vfh9j2oq@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle
>> <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself> wrote:
>>
>> And while you're at it, Danny, don't forget to include a little note
>> with that card thanking the ACLU for defending the First Amendment
>> rights that guarantee you the freedom to shit all over Usenet.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, but now days they are getting out of hand, such as defending
> "rights" to people who entered the country illegally and now tring to
> expand their horizons to outside the US.

Exactly how are they trying to expand outside of the US?

Since you don't seem to believe people who enter illegally have any
"rights", should we just shoot them? It's easy to tell because they all look
alike.

I'm sure you ar doing your part by only eating food picked and processed
outside the US because much of it here is picked by illegals. There was the
ten million dollar pear crop loss a while back because the area did not have
the people to harvest it, so that helps.
Don't eat in most resturants in especially the larger cities because those
sneaky wetbacks work there also.

One more thing, if you drive through my small town ignore the speed limit
signs and speed up. You are not welcome here. Not that you would care as
most are Mexican and many are probably illegal. And don't talk about family
values because they have it and the white people don't.

Date: 04 Dec 2006 03:58:54
From: Trent
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:pFFch.6700$Py2.5753@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> Trent wrote:
>> "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
>> news:6up4n2l9sa83j8sik51sagf8q2vfh9j2oq@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle
>>> <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself> wrote:
>>>
>>> And while you're at it, Danny, don't forget to include a little note
>>> with that card thanking the ACLU for defending the First Amendment
>>> rights that guarantee you the freedom to shit all over Usenet.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, but now days they are getting out of hand, such as defending
>> "rights" to people who entered the country illegally and now tring to
>> expand their horizons to outside the US.
>
> Exactly how are they trying to expand outside of the US?
>
> Since you don't seem to believe people who enter illegally have any
> "rights", should we just shoot them? It's easy to tell because they all
> look alike.

>
> I'm sure you ar doing your part by only eating food picked and processed
> outside the US because much of it here is picked by illegals. There was
> the ten million dollar pear crop loss a while back because the area did
> not have the people to harvest it, so that helps.

Did not have the people to pick them?? Huh? haha. There is a thing in
economics called "supply and demand"
If there is a big demand you pay higher else don't get it.

Most farmers can go mechanized. Though many crops cannot be done that way
and we pay for price for that. For example dates. There is no machine able
to pick the fruit off palm trees. So a person must climb the tree doing
dangerious work.

> Don't eat in most resturants in especially the larger cities because those
> sneaky wetbacks work there also.
>
How would you know?

> One more thing, if you drive through my small town ignore the speed limit
> signs and speed up. You are not welcome here. Not that you would care as
> most are Mexican and many are probably illegal. And don't talk about
> family values because they have it and the white people don't.

Here you go. Read about those "family values" you speak so highly of.
It should keeping you busy for the rest of yoru life.

http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/FamilyValuesLink.html
>
>

Date: 04 Dec 2006 21:31:37
From: Mike Painter
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Trent wrote:
> "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:pFFch.6700$Py2.5753@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>> Trent wrote:
>>> "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6up4n2l9sa83j8sik51sagf8q2vfh9j2oq@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle
>>>> <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And while you're at it, Danny, don't forget to include a little
>>>> note with that card thanking the ACLU for defending the First
>>>> Amendment rights that guarantee you the freedom to shit all over
>>>> Usenet.
>>>
>>> Yes, but now days they are getting out of hand, such as defending
>>> "rights" to people who entered the country illegally and now tring
>>> to expand their horizons to outside the US.
>>
>> Exactly how are they trying to expand outside of the US?
>>
>> Since you don't seem to believe people who enter illegally have any
>> "rights", should we just shoot them? It's easy to tell because they
>> all look alike.
>
>
>>
>> I'm sure you ar doing your part by only eating food picked and
>> processed outside the US because much of it here is picked by
>> illegals. There was the ten million dollar pear crop loss a while
>> back because the area did not have the people to harvest it, so that
>> helps.
>
> Did not have the people to pick them?? Huh? haha. There is a thing in
> economics called "supply and demand"
> If there is a big demand you pay higher else don't get it.

Tell that to the pear farmers who lost one of the best crops in years
because there was no body to pick them.

>
> Most farmers can go mechanized. Though many crops cannot be done that
> way and we pay for price for that. For example dates. There is no
> machine able to pick the fruit off palm trees. So a person must climb
> the tree doing dangerious work.
>
>
>> Don't eat in most resturants in especially the larger cities because
>> those sneaky wetbacks work there also.
>>
> How would you know?

You mean other than by reading, listening and watching the news and what the
owners say when they mention it? Or do you mean by observing who is working
the grill in both fast food, chain resturants or finer establishments?

>
>> One more thing, if you drive through my small town ignore the speed
>> limit signs and speed up. You are not welcome here. Not that you
>> would care as most are Mexican and many are probably illegal. And
>> don't talk about family values because they have it and the white
>> people don't.
>
> Here you go. Read about those "family values" you speak so highly of.
> It should keeping you busy for the rest of yoru life.
>
> http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/FamilyValuesLink.html

Read an American newspaper to see the same.

I'm an EMT and when we go into a white persons home it is very rare for
anyone but the person and possibly a spouse to be around.

When we arrive at a Mexican house there will be people in the yard, in the
house, in the bedroom. Children, grand children, cousins, friends, uncles
and aunts.
The Mexican tends to have a large extended family and it is so rare in white
America that EMT's are now receiving training to explain the difference.

Date: 04 Dec 2006 21:51:53
From: Trent
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:Zs0dh.25335$wP1.17434@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
> Trent wrote:
>> "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:pFFch.6700$Py2.5753@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>>> Trent wrote:
>>>> "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:6up4n2l9sa83j8sik51sagf8q2vfh9j2oq@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle
>>>>> <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> And while you're at it, Danny, don't forget to include a little
>>>>> note with that card thanking the ACLU for defending the First
>>>>> Amendment rights that guarantee you the freedom to shit all over
>>>>> Usenet.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but now days they are getting out of hand, such as defending
>>>> "rights" to people who entered the country illegally and now tring
>>>> to expand their horizons to outside the US.
>>>
>>> Exactly how are they trying to expand outside of the US?
>>>
>>> Since you don't seem to believe people who enter illegally have any
>>> "rights", should we just shoot them? It's easy to tell because they
>>> all look alike.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I'm sure you ar doing your part by only eating food picked and
>>> processed outside the US because much of it here is picked by
>>> illegals. There was the ten million dollar pear crop loss a while
>>> back because the area did not have the people to harvest it, so that
>>> helps.
>>
>> Did not have the people to pick them?? Huh? haha. There is a thing in
>> economics called "supply and demand"
>> If there is a big demand you pay higher else don't get it.
>
> Tell that to the pear farmers who lost one of the best crops in years
> because there was no body to pick them.
>

Don;t have to. They are not stupid. The would rather let the crop rot than
pay a higher wage.
It's on them

>>
>> Most farmers can go mechanized. Though many crops cannot be done that
>> way and we pay for price for that. For example dates. There is no
>> machine able to pick the fruit off palm trees. So a person must climb
>> the tree doing dangerious work.
>>
>>
>>> Don't eat in most resturants in especially the larger cities because
>>> those sneaky wetbacks work there also.
>>>
>> How would you know?
>
> You mean other than by reading, listening and watching the news and what
> the owners say when they mention it? Or do you mean by observing who is
> working the grill in both fast food, chain resturants or finer
> establishments?
>

Observation

>>
>>> One more thing, if you drive through my small town ignore the speed
>>> limit signs and speed up. You are not welcome here. Not that you
>>> would care as most are Mexican and many are probably illegal. And
>>> don't talk about family values because they have it and the white
>>> people don't.
>>
>> Here you go. Read about those "family values" you speak so highly of.
>> It should keeping you busy for the rest of yoru life.
>>
>> http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/FamilyValuesLink.html
>
> Read an American newspaper to see the same.
>
> I'm an EMT and when we go into a white persons home it is very rare for
> anyone but the person and possibly a spouse to be around.
>
> When we arrive at a Mexican house there will be people in the yard, in the
> house, in the bedroom. Children, grand children, cousins, friends, uncles
> and aunts.
> The Mexican tends to have a large extended family and it is so rare in
> white America that EMT's are now receiving training to explain the
> difference.

You are an outsider looking in. My wife is Mexican and I am an insider.
I can tell you personally of all thoses "family values"

>
>

Date: 05 Dec 2006 02:08:49
From: Mike Painter
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Trent wrote:
<snip >
>>> If there is a big demand you pay higher else don't get it.
>>
>> Tell that to the pear farmers who lost one of the best crops in years
>> because there was no body to pick them.
>>
>
> Don;t have to. They are not stupid. The would rather let the crop rot
> than pay a higher wage.
> It's on them

Ignore what they say about it if you wish and believe that they would let
10,000,000.00 dollars or even 1,000,000.00 "rot" if you wish.
It just strenghten the idea that you speak out of bigotry.

>
>>>
>>> Most farmers can go mechanized. Though many crops cannot be done
>>> that way and we pay for price for that. For example dates. There is
>>> no machine able to pick the fruit off palm trees. So a person must
>>> climb the tree doing dangerious work.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Don't eat in most resturants in especially the larger cities
>>>> because those sneaky wetbacks work there also.
>>>>
>>> How would you know?
>>
>> You mean other than by reading, listening and watching the news and
>> what the owners say when they mention it? Or do you mean by
>> observing who is working the grill in both fast food, chain
>> resturants or finer establishments?
>>
>
> Observation

Yes I have observed it. Admittedly not in Chinese resturants but all of them
in my town and in every resturant I've been in around here.

>
>>>
>>>> One more thing, if you drive through my small town ignore the speed
>>>> limit signs and speed up. You are not welcome here. Not that you
>>>> would care as most are Mexican and many are probably illegal. And
>>>> don't talk about family values because they have it and the white
>>>> people don't.
>>>
>>> Here you go. Read about those "family values" you speak so highly
>>> of. It should keeping you busy for the rest of yoru life.
>>>
>>> http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/FamilyValuesLink.html
>>
>> Read an American newspaper to see the same.
>>
>> I'm an EMT and when we go into a white persons home it is very rare
>> for anyone but the person and possibly a spouse to be around.
>>
>> When we arrive at a Mexican house there will be people in the yard,
>> in the house, in the bedroom. Children, grand children, cousins,
>> friends, uncles and aunts.
>> The Mexican tends to have a large extended family and it is so rare
>> in white America that EMT's are now receiving training to explain the
>> difference.
>
>
> You are an outsider looking in. My wife is Mexican and I am an
> insider. I can tell you personally of all thoses "family values"

Usually we try to finish thoses sentences.

Date: 04 Dec 2006 15:12:23
From: Pat O'Connell
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Trent wrote:
> "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:Zs0dh.25335$wP1.17434@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
>> Trent wrote:
>>> "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:pFFch.6700$Py2.5753@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
>>>> Trent wrote:
>>>>> "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:6up4n2l9sa83j8sik51sagf8q2vfh9j2oq@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle
>>>>>> <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And while you're at it, Danny, don't forget to include a little
>>>>>> note with that card thanking the ACLU for defending the First
>>>>>> Amendment rights that guarantee you the freedom to shit all over
>>>>>> Usenet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but now days they are getting out of hand, such as defending
>>>>> "rights" to people who entered the country illegally and now tring
>>>>> to expand their horizons to outside the US.
>>>>
>>>> Exactly how are they trying to expand outside of the US?
>>>>
>>>> Since you don't seem to believe people who enter illegally have any
>>>> "rights", should we just shoot them? It's easy to tell because they
>>>> all look alike.

...

>>>> One more thing, if you drive through my small town ignore the speed
>>>> limit signs and speed up. You are not welcome here. Not that you
>>>> would care as most are Mexican and many are probably illegal. And
>>>> don't talk about family values because they have it and the white
>>>> people don't.
>>>
>>> Here you go. Read about those "family values" you speak so highly of.
>>> It should keeping you busy for the rest of yoru life.
>>>
>>> http://www.americanpatrol.com/REFERENCE/FamilyValuesLink.html
>>
>> Read an American newspaper to see the same.
>>
>> I'm an EMT and when we go into a white persons home it is very rare for
>> anyone but the person and possibly a spouse to be around.
>>
>> When we arrive at a Mexican house there will be people in the yard, in the
>> house, in the bedroom. Children, grand children, cousins, friends, uncles
>> and aunts.
>> The Mexican tends to have a large extended family and it is so rare in
>> white America that EMT's are now receiving training to explain the
>> difference.
>
>
> You are an outsider looking in. My wife is Mexican and I am an insider.
> I can tell you personally of all thoses "family values"

As a NM resident, I can tell you that a closely bonded extended family
is extremely important even in families that have lived in NM or other
Southwestern states for a very long time (many families settled here in
the 1700s, when NM, AZ, TX and parts of CO were claimed by Spain). If an
elderly person is dying in a hospital, their entire family (I've seen as
many as 30 or 40 people) will be there to comfort him or her. The custom
is common among Indian families also. Old-time Anglo (not Hispanic or
Indian) ranch families often live together on the family ranch, with
each family having its own house in a common compound.

BTW I like the ACLU, as their message is consistent: The Constitution
should be heeded even when someone considers it inconvenient.

--
Pat O'Connell
[note munged EMail address]
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...

Date: 04 Dec 2006 18:38:31
From: Anonyma
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

For the real story behind the Anti-Christian Liberal Union, see :

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=dangerous+OR+liberal+OR+atheist+OR+socialist+OR+communist+OR+%22anti-christian%22+OR+%22anti-christ%22+%22aclu%22+-%22aclu.org%22+-%22mediamatters.org%22&adult_done

Pat O'Connell <gypkap@comcast.net > wrote:
>BTW I like the ACLU, as their message is consistent: The Constitution
>should be heeded even when someone considers it inconvenient.

You are an Atheist. The ACLU only defends your religion in government:

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&scoring=d&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=gypkap@comcast.net&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=4&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2006&safe=off

Date: 04 Dec 2006 19:45:54
From: Pat O'Connell
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Anonyma wrote:
> For the real story behind the Anti-Christian Liberal Union, see :
>
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=dangerous+OR+liberal+OR+atheist+OR+socialist+OR+communist+OR+%22anti-christian%22+OR+%22anti-christ%22+%22aclu%22+-%22aclu.org%22+-%22mediamatters.org%22&adult_done
>
> Pat O'Connell <gypkap@comcast.net> wrote:
>>BTW I like the ACLU, as their message is consistent: The Constitution
>>should be heeded even when someone considers it inconvenient.
>
> You are an Atheist. The ACLU only defends your religion in government:

I have the same religion as George Washington.

You, on the other hand, seem to be intolerant of others beliefs.

--
Pat O'Connell
[note munged EMail address]
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...

Date: 04 Dec 2006 23:45:04
From: Cary Kittrell
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

In article <569d83ea5a5a348d2ebbb24805657fba@deuxpi.ca > Anonyma <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca> writes:
>
>
> For the real story behind the Anti-Christian Liberal Union, see :
>
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=dangerous+OR+liberal+OR+atheist+OR+socialist+OR+communist+OR+%22anti-christian%22+OR+%22anti-christ%22+%22aclu%22+-%22aclu.org%22+-%22mediamatters.org%22&adult_done
>
> Pat O'Connell <gypkap@comcast.net> wrote:
> >BTW I like the ACLU, as their message is consistent: The Constitution
> >should be heeded even when someone considers it inconvenient.
>
> You are an Atheist. The ACLU only defends your religion in government:
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&num=100&scoring=d&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_ugroup=&as_usubject=&as_uauthors=gypkap@comcast.net&lr=&as_drrb=q&as_qdr=&as_mind=1&as_minm=1&as_miny=1981&as_maxd=4&as_maxm=12&as_maxy=2006&safe=off
>

And of course you will resolutely ignore the lists of several dozen
cases in which the ACLU has defended Christian and other religions,
provided for your benefit by more than one poster to this thread now.

If I were that dishonest, I'd post anonymously too, I think.

-- cary

Date: 03 Dec 2006 17:14:49
From: Fred Scharmann
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

I have no problem with immigrants. My parents were immigrants - legal
immigrants. I love legal immigrants, that is how are country improved.

I do not care if we need them or not, sneaking across the border is not
legal. Why should they have any rights if they have no right to be here.

They should apply to enter the country legally. Many people are waiting
their turn to enter. Why should we ignore that people are sneaking in?

"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net > wrote in message
news:pFFch.6700$Py2.5753@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
> Trent wrote:
>> "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
>> news:6up4n2l9sa83j8sik51sagf8q2vfh9j2oq@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle
>>> <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself> wrote:
>>>
>>> And while you're at it, Danny, don't forget to include a little note
>>> with that card thanking the ACLU for defending the First Amendment
>>> rights that guarantee you the freedom to shit all over Usenet.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, but now days they are getting out of hand, such as defending
>> "rights" to people who entered the country illegally and now tring to
>> expand their horizons to outside the US.
>
> Exactly how are they trying to expand outside of the US?
>
> Since you don't seem to believe people who enter illegally have any
> "rights", should we just shoot them? It's easy to tell because they all
> look alike.
>
> I'm sure you ar doing your part by only eating food picked and processed
> outside the US because much of it here is picked by illegals. There was
> the ten million dollar pear crop loss a while back because the area did
> not have the people to harvest it, so that helps.
> Don't eat in most resturants in especially the larger cities because those
> sneaky wetbacks work there also.
>
> One more thing, if you drive through my small town ignore the speed limit
> signs and speed up. You are not welcome here. Not that you would care as
> most are Mexican and many are probably illegal. And don't talk about
> family values because they have it and the white people don't.
>

Date: 04 Dec 2006 18:47:27
From: Brian Westley
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

"Fred Scharmann" <fjs3_get_rid_of_this@adelphia.net > writes:

>I have no problem with immigrants. My parents were immigrants - legal
>immigrants. I love legal immigrants, that is how are country improved.

>I do not care if we need them or not, sneaking across the border is not
>legal. Why should they have any rights if they have no right to be here.

Because the constitution and federal laws sometimes refer to
the right of "citizens", and sometimes the rights of "people".

Rights of citizenship only apply to citizens.
Rights belonging to people apply to everyone under US
jurisdiction, including illegal aliens, foreign visitors, etc.

Illegal aliens have fewer rights than citizens, but not zero.

---
Merlyn LeRoy

Date: 02 Dec 2006 23:53:38
From: Joe S.
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

"Kind & Gentle" <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself > wrote in message
news:385e326f467c2f4c8574866ef507b681@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Just saw this. Seriously, mine's going in the mail
> Monday morning. And even though they so very much
> deserve it, having earned it since 1947 & counting,
> I'm not making any references to the Anti-Christian
> Liberal Union, etc., but only wishing them a Merry
> Christmas & Happy New Year -- in the true spirit of
> Christmas. Let's hope the ACLU gets several hundred
> *million* Jesus-Christ-Is-LORD-mass cards this year...
>
> Google "125 Broad" AND "New York" AND "Christmas card":
>
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22125+Broad%22+%22New+York%22+%22Christmas+card%22&adult_done=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch&adult_cancel=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fweb%2Fadvanced&_adv_prop=web&ei=UTF-8&vst=0&vf=all&vm=i&fl=0&n=100
>
> http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/ImageInfo.aspx?T=2&S=12&Z=18&X=729&Y=5632&W=2&qs=125+Broad+St%7cNew+York%7c&Addr=125+Broad+St%2c+New+York%2c+NY+10004-2400&ALon=-74.0114400&ALat=40.7027660
>
> Address your Christmas card envelopes to:
>
> ACLU
> 125 Broad St #18
> New York, NY 10004-2427
> Tele: (212) 549-2500
>
> Be sure to select Christmas Cards with traditional
> Judeo-Christian themes, Star of Bethlehem, Nativity
> scenes, the blessed Vestal Virgin and Mother of God
> Miryam cradling the new-born infant Jesus wrapped
> in swaddling clothes, being cradled in the hay-filled
> trough under the grotto in east Beythlechem, City of
> David, House of Bread, etc. And by all means, pick
> cards that quote the Bible! The ACLU *loves* to be
> reminded that Jesus is LORD of lords, King of kings,
> (i.e., even born Prince and King of the Jews). They
> really love to hear beautiful quotes from the Bible.
>
> The A.C.L.U. wants *you* to send them a card this year.
> Please forward this message to everyone you know, and
> ask them to do the same, to at least ten other email
> addresses.
>
> And please, above all: be kind, and civil. *Kill* them
> with kindness, because God's love is the one invincible
> weapon that even the Liberal Atheist ACLU lawyers can't
> defend against!
>
> Io Saturnalia!
> Daniel Joseph Min
> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
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>

Better yet, send some of these:

https://lightning.he.net/~atheists/catalogue/shop/cat006.php
http://www.123greetings.com/events/winter_solstice/
http://www.greetsomeone.com/december/winter1.shtml
http://www.jpc-artworks.com/gallery/ecards/solstice/index.html

Date: 03 Dec 2006 09:21:08
From: Mij Adyaw
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Danny Joe,

This time I completely agree with you. We should be sending Christmas Cards
to the Anti-Christian Liberation Union to remind them that the Christmas
Season is about the birth of our savior the Lord Jesus Christ.

"Kind & Gentle" <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself > wrote in message
news:385e326f467c2f4c8574866ef507b681@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Just saw this. Seriously, mine's going in the mail
> Monday morning. And even though they so very much
> deserve it, having earned it since 1947 & counting,
> I'm not making any references to the Anti-Christian
> Liberal Union, etc., but only wishing them a Merry
> Christmas & Happy New Year -- in the true spirit of
> Christmas. Let's hope the ACLU gets several hundred
> *million* Jesus-Christ-Is-LORD-mass cards this year...
>
> Google "125 Broad" AND "New York" AND "Christmas card":
>
> http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22125+Broad%22+%22New+York%22+%22Christmas+card%22&adult_done=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch&adult_cancel=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fweb%2Fadvanced&_adv_prop=web&ei=UTF-8&vst=0&vf=all&vm=i&fl=0&n=100
>
> http://terraserver.homeadvisor.msn.com/ImageInfo.aspx?T=2&S=12&Z=18&X=729&Y=5632&W=2&qs=125+Broad+St%7cNew+York%7c&Addr=125+Broad+St%2c+New+York%2c+NY+10004-2400&ALon=-74.0114400&ALat=40.7027660
>
> Address your Christmas card envelopes to:
>
> ACLU
> 125 Broad St #18
> New York, NY 10004-2427
> Tele: (212) 549-2500
>
> Be sure to select Christmas Cards with traditional
> Judeo-Christian themes, Star of Bethlehem, Nativity
> scenes, the blessed Vestal Virgin and Mother of God
> Miryam cradling the new-born infant Jesus wrapped
> in swaddling clothes, being cradled in the hay-filled
> trough under the grotto in east Beythlechem, City of
> David, House of Bread, etc. And by all means, pick
> cards that quote the Bible! The ACLU *loves* to be
> reminded that Jesus is LORD of lords, King of kings,
> (i.e., even born Prince and King of the Jews). They
> really love to hear beautiful quotes from the Bible.
>
> The A.C.L.U. wants *you* to send them a card this year.
> Please forward this message to everyone you know, and
> ask them to do the same, to at least ten other email
> addresses.
>
> And please, above all: be kind, and civil. *Kill* them
> with kindness, because God's love is the one invincible
> weapon that even the Liberal Atheist ACLU lawyers can't
> defend against!
>
> Io Saturnalia!
> Daniel Joseph Min
> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
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> =361l
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>

Date: 03 Dec 2006 10:33:23
From: Mark K. Bilbo
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle wrote:

> Just saw this. Seriously, mine's going in the mail
> Monday morning. And even though they so very much
> deserve it, having earned it since 1947 & counting,
> I'm not making any references to the Anti-Christian
> Liberal Union, etc., but only wishing them a Merry
> Christmas & Happy New Year

How nice of you.

Of course, you're so freakin' insane I bet you think it's going to upset
them or something...

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"...otherwise, we're looking at the potential of this kind
of world:.... a world in which oil reserves are controlled
by radicals in order to extract blackmail from the West..."
-George Bush

Wait... oil reserves?

Date:
From:
Subject:

Date: 03 Dec 2006 12:24:13
From: Nicola
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle
<love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself > wrote:

>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
>Just saw this. Seriously, mine's going in the mail
>Monday morning. And even though they so very much
>deserve it, having earned it since 1947 & counting,
>I'm not making any references to the Anti-Christian
>Liberal Union, etc., but only wishing them a Merry
>Christmas & Happy New Year -- in the true spirit of
>Christmas. Let's hope the ACLU gets several hundred
>*million* Jesus-Christ-Is-LORD-mass cards this year...

I hope they get billions of them. Every penny that campaigning
religious groups and individuals spend on a pointless exercise like
this is a penny less for the more dangerous campaigns aimed at
reducing freedom and force-feeding religion to the disinterested.

Nicola

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Date: 03 Dec 2006 07:13:03
From: Mike Painter
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Kind & Gentle wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Just saw this. Seriously, mine's going in the mail
> Monday morning. And even though they so very much
> deserve it, having earned it since 1947 & counting,
> I'm not making any references to the Anti-Christian
> Liberal Union, etc., but only wishing them a Merry
> Christmas & Happy New Year -- in the true spirit of
> Christmas. Let's hope the ACLU gets several hundred
> *million* Jesus-Christ-Is-LORD-mass cards this year...

That will make them happy. While you are at it why not send one to Jerry
Falwell to send to them?
He probably won't mention it but they defended him when no one else would.
There are quite a few other people who should be sending them cards also.
The high school girl they defended for reading a bible, several groups that
posted christmas scenes on private property, a rather large religious group
who did not want to take an oath, believeing it was not right.

Sad little people who don't seem to understand that the odds are about
20,000 to 1 against their sect winning the god war and not knowing what
would happen to them if they lost.

Date: 03 Dec 2006 21:56:01
From: Mark K. Bilbo
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 14:23:23 -0600, Tak a#344 wrote:

> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:33:23 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
>
>> Of course, you're so freakin' insane I bet you think it's going to upset
>> them or something...
>
> I suspect he thinks they will burst into flames.

He is that insane...

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language
is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't
just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other
languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their
pockets for new vocabulary." -James D. Nicoll

Date: 03 Dec 2006 17:53:26
From: Mark K. Bilbo
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:18:38 +0000, Trent wrote:

> "John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
> news:6up4n2l9sa83j8sik51sagf8q2vfh9j2oq@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 05:29:40 +0100, Kind & Gentle
>> <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself> wrote:
>>
>> And while you're at it, Danny, don't forget to include a little note
>> with that card thanking the ACLU for defending the First Amendment
>> rights that guarantee you the freedom to shit all over Usenet.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, but now days they are getting out of hand, such as defending "rights"
> to people who entered the country illegally and now tring to expand their
> horizons to outside the US.

God forbid the US defend the concept of universal human rights...

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe is fine tuned
for life is akin to a puddle being surprised at how well it
fits its hole"
-Douglas Adams

Date: 03 Dec 2006 14:52:16
From: Draccus
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Dana wrote:
> "Tak a#344" <notan@emailyouspambastards.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.12.03.20.19.55.898239@emailyouspambastards.com...
> > The ACLU supports and defends EVERYONES beliefs, even yours. :)
> too.
>
> Wrong

Well, that settles Dana said we were all Wrong. You that is a perfect
Argument to the point based in fact and all, guess it must be right.
After all we all know what a Scholarly mind Dana has deomonstrated over
the years. It makes so much nicer knowing Dana is here to show us the
errors of our ways.

Date: 03 Dec 2006 14:43:11
From: Draccus
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Date:
From:
Subject:

Date: 04 Dec 2006 08:40:25
From:
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

On Dec 3, 11:21 am, "Mij Adyaw" <m...@TheBitBucket.com > wrote:
> Danny Joe,
>
> This time I completely agree with you. We should be sending Christmas Cards
> to the Anti-Christian Liberation Union to remind them that the Christmas
> Season is about the birth of our savior the Lord Jesus Christ.
>

How can they be anti-Christian when the defend Christians as often as
they do?

http://www.aclu.org/religion/tencomm/16254res20050302.html

I wonder "why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do
not
perceive the plank in your own eye? "Or how can you say to your
brother, 'Brother, let me remove the speck that is in your eye,' when
you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye? Hypocrite!
First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly
to remove the speck that is in your brother's eye."

Luke 6:41-42 NKJV

In verse 41, Jesus states, "Why to you look and find fault with your
brother's spiritual walk, how he believes or lives." When you can't see
the big fault in your own Christian walk, life style or belief. He says
first remove that fault, habit or belief of your own. It may be a sin
you need to get rid of by the power of the Holy Spirit, or maybe a
gross false teaching you may have retained from the traditions of men.
Such a teaching may be like a plank in your eye because it has
prevented you from perceiving so much truth from the Scriptures.

Look to yourself! Do you remember the passage: "Do not judge, or you
too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be
judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Date: 04 Dec 2006 09:53:51
From: Starlord
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

And at last another totaly off topic post for S.A.A. falls headlong into the
everlasting crushing force of the Cyber Black Hole never to be seen again.

--
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universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the
Egyptians, or the Toltechs, or the Mayans. Some believe that they may yet be
brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the
heavens.

The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
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www.sidewalkastronomy.info
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<rpasken@eas.slu.edu > wrote in message
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Whole lot of garbage deleted.

Date: 04 Dec 2006 14:04:51
From: Richard Tobin
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

In article <385e326f467c2f4c8574866ef507b681@msgid.frell.theremailer.net >,
Kind & Gentle <love.thy.neighbor@as.thyself > wrote:

>Be sure to select Christmas Cards with traditional
>Judeo-Christian themes, Star of Bethlehem, Nativity
>scenes, the blessed Vestal Virgin and Mother of God
>Miryam cradling the new-born infant Jesus wrapped
>in swaddling clothes [...]

As a non-christian, I am quite happy to send christmas cards with
these themes. After all, they are part of our secular culture and
have no religious implications at all. Virgin mothers, mistletoe,
easter bunnies, maypoles, witches - they're all in the public domain
now.

-- Richard
--
"Consideration shall be given to the need for as many as 32 characters
in some alphabets" - X3.4, 1963.

Date: 04 Dec 2006 05:46:53
From: Dichard Rawkins
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Anonyma <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca > wrote in message <4491774f202aaf65d6740c36f2f49db4@deuxpi.ca>
> The ACLU only defends Atheism in government :

I wish.

--
***Free Your Mind***

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Date: 04 Dec 2006 10:54:29
From: Larry
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Date: 16 Dec 2006 21:14:10
From: Andrew F. Heil
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

> Address your Christmas card envelopes to:
>
> ACLU
> 125 Broad St #18
> New York, NY 10004-2427
> Tele: (212) 549-2500
>
> Be sure to select Christmas Cards with traditional
> Judeo-Christian themes, Star of Bethlehem, Nativity
> scenes, the blessed Vestal Virgin and Mother of God
> Miryam cradling the new-born infant Jesus wrapped
> in swaddling clothes, being cradled in the hay-filled
> trough under the grotto in east Beythlechem, City of
> David, House of Bread, etc. And by all means, pick
> cards that quote the Bible! The ACLU *loves* to be
> reminded that Jesus is LORD of lords, King of kings,
> (i.e., even born Prince and King of the Jews). They
> really love to hear beautiful quotes from the Bible.

So where, precisely, do you get this apparently pathological obsession
with the notion that the ACLU will be somehow upset, insulted, and/or
inconvenienced by receiving one or more Christmas cards?

Date: 20 Dec 2006 21:14:54
From: Glenn $Christian Mystic$
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

"Andrew F. Heil" <andrewfheil2@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:1166332450.888785.247410@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...

>> Address your Christmas card envelopes to:
>> ACLU
>> 125 Broad St #18
>> New York, NY 10004-2427
>> Tele: (212) 549-2500
>> Be sure to select Christmas Cards with traditional
>> Judeo-Christian themes, Star of Bethlehem, Nativity
>> scenes, the blessed Vestal Virgin and Mother of God
>> Miryam cradling the new-born infant Jesus wrapped
>> in swaddling clothes, being cradled in the hay-filled
>> trough under the grotto in east Beythlechem, City of
>> David, House of Bread, etc. And by all means, pick
>> cards that quote the Bible! The ACLU *loves* to be
>> reminded that Jesus is LORD of lords, King of kings,
>> (i.e., even born Prince and King of the Jews). They
>> really love to hear beautiful quotes from the Bible.
>
> So where, precisely, do you get this apparently pathological obsession
> with the notion that the ACLU will be somehow upset, insulted, and/or
> inconvenienced by receiving one or more Christmas cards?

Their political record, simple, really

Date: 20 Dec 2006 14:50:08
From: Pat O'Connell
Subject: Re: Christmas Cards to the A.C.L.U.!

Glenn (Christian Mystic) wrote:
> "Andrew F. Heil" <andrewfheil2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1166332450.888785.247410@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
>
>>> Address your Christmas card envelopes to:
>>> ACLU
>>> 125 Broad St #18
>>> New York, NY 10004-2427
>>> Tele: (212) 549-2500
>>> Be sure to select Christmas Cards with traditional
>>> Judeo-Christian themes, Star of Bethlehem, Nativity
>>> scenes, the blessed Vestal Virgin and Mother of God
>>> Miryam cradling the new-born infant Jesus wrapped
>>> in swaddling clothes, being cradled in the hay-filled
>>> trough under the grotto in east Beythlechem, City of
>>> David, House of Bread, etc. And by all means, pick
>>> cards that quote the Bible! The ACLU *loves* to be
>>> reminded that Jesus is LORD of lords, King of kings,
>>> (i.e., even born Prince and King of the Jews). They
>>> really love to hear beautiful quotes from the Bible.
>>
>> So where, precisely, do you get this apparently pathological obsession
>> with the notion that the ACLU will be somehow upset, insulted, and/or
>> inconvenienced by receiving one or more Christmas cards?
>
> Their political record, simple, really

That of defending religious freedom, no matter what the religion (or
lack thereof)? I'd say they'd like Christmas, Hanukkah, or Yule cards.

--
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Kill nothing but vandals...