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Date: 19 Dec 2006 13:48:09
From: Bruno Moretti IK2WQA
Subject: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
In the 10th Anniversary of my friend Carl Sagan.
http://www.geocities.com/priapus_dionysos/Carl_Sagan0.html
With interview @ Bruno Moretti IK2WQA & Claudio Maccone
Sorry, only in Italian language,
but with Babelfish translation... ;-)
+ in English
Introducing The Planetary Society by Carl Sagan, 1980
Remembering Carl Sagan by Charlene M. Anderson, 2006
Where Would We Be With Carl? by Ann Druyan, 2006
Ann Druyan Talks About Science, Religion, Wonder, Awe . . . and Carl
Sagan by Ann Druyan, 2003
Mr. X by Carl Sagan, 1969
Clear & dark skies!
SETI ITALIA Team Cocconi
SETI SuperStar Award - Dec. 2006
http://www.geocities.com/priapus_dionysos/SuperStar.html
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 19:25:23
From: Rich
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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Bruno Moretti IK2WQA wrote:
> Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
>
> In the 10th Anniversary of my friend Carl Sagan.
> http://www.geocities.com/priapus_dionysos/Carl_Sagan0.html
> With interview @ Bruno Moretti IK2WQA & Claudio Maccone
>
> Sorry, only in Italian language,
> but with Babelfish translation... ;-)
>
> + in English
> Introducing The Planetary Society by Carl Sagan, 1980
> Remembering Carl Sagan by Charlene M. Anderson, 2006
> Where Would We Be With Carl? by Ann Druyan, 2006
> Ann Druyan Talks About Science, Religion, Wonder, Awe . . . and Carl
> Sagan by Ann Druyan, 2003
>
> Mr. X by Carl Sagan, 1969
>
>
> Clear & dark skies!
>
> SETI ITALIA Team Cocconi
> SETI SuperStar Award - Dec. 2006
> http://www.geocities.com/priapus_dionysos/SuperStar.html
A fine, productive Cornell astronomer....who went nuts and became a
nuke winter spouting kook. "IT'S FIVE MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT!!!" Too bad
he didn't live to pontificate about that other chicken-little scenario,
"global warming." He was more a "global cooling" type of guy anyway.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 16:26:13
From: Mike
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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You give the words loser and idiot a whole new meaning.
>>
>> SETI ITALIA Team Cocconi
>> SETI SuperStar Award - Dec. 2006
>> http://www.geocities.com/priapus_dionysos/SuperStar.html
>
> A fine, productive Cornell astronomer....who went nuts and became a
> nuke winter spouting kook. "IT'S FIVE MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT!!!" Too bad
> he didn't live to pontificate about that other chicken-little scenario,
> "global warming." He was more a "global cooling" type of guy anyway.
>
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 16:27:36
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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Mike wrote:
> You give the words loser and idiot a whole new meaning.
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>>> SETI ITALIA Team Cocconi
>>> SETI SuperStar Award - Dec. 2006
>>> http://www.geocities.com/priapus_dionysos/SuperStar.html
>> A fine, productive Cornell astronomer....who went nuts and became a
>> nuke winter spouting kook. "IT'S FIVE MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT!!!" Too bad
>> he didn't live to pontificate about that other chicken-little scenario,
>> "global warming." He was more a "global cooling" type of guy anyway.
>>
>
>
Into the plonker with you Mick!
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Date: 19 Dec 2006 23:09:37
From: Mike
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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"Bruno Moretti IK2WQA" <etnopop@libero.it > wrote in message
news:1166564889.381588.39830@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
>
> In the 10th Anniversary of my friend Carl Sagan.
> http://www.geocities.com/priapus_dionysos/Carl_Sagan0.html
> With interview @ Bruno Moretti IK2WQA & Claudio Maccone
>
Carl looks stoned out of his head with Asimov. Too many Asimov cocktails?
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:12:51
From: Patrick Edward Murray
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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I loved his books and he was a great writer.
He died 10 years ago today, on my 40th Birthday so I will always
remember that.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 13:45:52
From: Rich
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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Pat O'Connell wrote:
> Rich wrote:
> > Mike wrote:
> >> You give the words loser and idiot a whole new meaning.
>
> > Take off the blinders, leftist dimwit.
>
> Stop the flamage, please.
>
> Sagan wrote about his time, when nuclear war seemed all too possible.
> His worry was that a nuclear war, because it kicks up so much dust into
> the stratosphere, would cool the climate to the point that we would find
> ourselves in an ice age, maybe a permanent one. Little was known about
> the greenhouse effect in those days. It's one of those theories we
> really don't want to test, though the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo in the
> Philippines cooled the climate for about a year afterwards. That's
> probably where the idea came from.
>
> I don't think that urging nuclear treaties was a "leftist plot." After
> all, George Bush Sr., who's not a leftist, negotiated them with Russia.
>
Neither do I, since it wasn't leftists who signed most of them.
What I dislike is the leftist propensity to over-dramatize things into
nonsense.
We were never close to a nuclear exchange with the Soviets. You want
to
worry about nukes, worry about India and Pakistan since most
strategists realize
that is the major flashpoint. But there are other examples of leftist
miscalculation regarding
World affairs. Remember the Club of Rome? Said in 1970 that we'd be
OUT of oil by the
early 1980s. DDT was banned because of thinning bird eggshells. The
result? 40 million Africans more than would have died because of an
explosion in the mosquito populations.
We banned CFCs when there was no credible evidence they posed any major
threat.
Result? Increased food spoilage due to the inability of the Third
Worlders to afford modern,
CFC-free refrigerants cause the deaths of about 2 million more.
Now, we've got the lefty envirokooks braying about "global warming" and
what a "dire"
situation it is. If it's so F---- DIRE, why do China and India
(projected to outproduced the
U.S. by six times in C02 production by 2025) get free pass when it
comes to implementation of contols on C02? What good are any controls
of the West, given that scenario?
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:30:01
From:
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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Rich wrote:
> A fine, productive Cornell astronomer....who went nuts and became a
> nuke winter spouting kook.
You suck, Rich.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 10:31:06
From: Rich
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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Mike wrote:
> You give the words loser and idiot a whole new meaning.
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>
Take off the blinders, leftist dimwit.
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 19:35:34
From: Mike
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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"Rich" <rander3127@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1166639465.892805.317470@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> Mike wrote:
>> You give the words loser and idiot a whole new meaning.
>>
>>
>
> Take off the blinders, leftist dimwit.
That makes you a right wing fuck up I guess!!
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Date: 20 Dec 2006 12:18:48
From: Pat O'Connell
Subject: Re: Carl Sagan 20.12.2006
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Rich wrote:
> Mike wrote:
>> You give the words loser and idiot a whole new meaning.
> Take off the blinders, leftist dimwit.
Stop the flamage, please.
Sagan wrote about his time, when nuclear war seemed all too possible.
His worry was that a nuclear war, because it kicks up so much dust into
the stratosphere, would cool the climate to the point that we would find
ourselves in an ice age, maybe a permanent one. Little was known about
the greenhouse effect in those days. It's one of those theories we
really don't want to test, though the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo in the
Philippines cooled the climate for about a year afterwards. That's
probably where the idea came from.
I don't think that urging nuclear treaties was a "leftist plot." After
all, George Bush Sr., who's not a leftist, negotiated them with Russia.
--
Pat O'Connell
[note munged EMail address]
Take nothing but pictures, Leave nothing but footprints,
Kill nothing but vandals...
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