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Date: 21 Oct 2006 23:22:47
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Subject: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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I live at the Jersey shore and I notice out my window, towards the SE
there is a very bright star that "seems" to be quite active,
"seemingly" more than the others as it appears to be twinkling and
changing colors. There doesn't appear to be any other bright stars
near it and it definitly isn't part of Orion The Hunter.... I
generally look out about 3:00am and it is maybe 30 or 40 (estimates)
degrees above the horizon.
>From this limited information, do you have any idea what star this
might be? Again, it appears brighter than any other star in the SE sky
at about 3:00am.
Thanks in advance
LEESA (I)
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 09:41:03
From: Algomeysa2
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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<Leesa_Tay@softhome.net > wrote in message
news:1161498167.699027.297410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I live at the Jersey shore and I notice out my window, towards the SE
> there is a very bright star that "seems" to be quite active,
> "seemingly" more than the others as it appears to be twinkling and
> changing colors. There doesn't appear to be any other bright stars
> near it and it definitly isn't part of Orion The Hunter.... I
> generally look out about 3:00am and it is maybe 30 or 40 (estimates)
> degrees above the horizon.
>
>>From this limited information, do you have any idea what star this
> might be? Again, it appears brighter than any other star in the SE sky
> at about 3:00am.
See picture:
http://tinyurl.com/twztk
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 10:08:56
From: Eugene Griessel
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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"Algomeysa2" <Algomeysa2NOSPAM@mindspring.comNOPESPAM > wrote:
><Leesa_Tay@softhome.net> wrote in message
>news:1161498167.699027.297410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>I live at the Jersey shore and I notice out my window, towards the SE
>> there is a very bright star that "seems" to be quite active,
>> "seemingly" more than the others as it appears to be twinkling and
>> changing colors. There doesn't appear to be any other bright stars
>> near it and it definitly isn't part of Orion The Hunter.... I
>> generally look out about 3:00am and it is maybe 30 or 40 (estimates)
>> degrees above the horizon.
>>
>>>From this limited information, do you have any idea what star this
>> might be? Again, it appears brighter than any other star in the SE sky
>> at about 3:00am.
>
>See picture:
>http://tinyurl.com/twztk
>
Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
Eugene L Griessel
Surprise your boss. Get to work on time.
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 11:53:31
From: Algomeysa2
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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"Eugene Griessel" <eugene@dynagen..co..za > wrote in message
news:453b4311.8728406@news.uunet.co.za...
http://tinyurl.com/twztk
> Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
You may have a vision problem. Look closely at that image. The important
stars are labeled in red.
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 09:31:53
From: Howard Lester
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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"Algomeysa2" wrote
> http://tinyurl.com/twztk
>
>> Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
> You may have a vision problem. Look closely at that image. The
> important stars are labeled in red.
Only if I pull my laptop screen far forward will the names appear. It's
like... magic!
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 12:04:00
From: Eugene Griessel
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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"Algomeysa2" <Algomeysa2NOSPAM@mindspring.comNOPESPAM > wrote:
>"Eugene Griessel" <eugene@dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
>news:453b4311.8728406@news.uunet.co.za...
>
>http://tinyurl.com/twztk
>
>> Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
>
>You may have a vision problem. Look closely at that image. The important
>stars are labeled in red.
Yes, you are right - I have to turn the brightness up on my monitor
fairly heavily to see it though! I'm sure my version of Starry Night
is brighter!
Eugene L Griessel
An idealist is a person who, on noticing that a rose smells better
than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 05:33:48
From: Mike Ruskai
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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On or about Sun, 22 2006 11:53:31 GMT did "Algomeysa2"
<Algomeysa2NOSPAM@mindspring.comNOPESPAM > dribble thusly:
>"Eugene Griessel" <eugene@dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
>news:453b4311.8728406@news.uunet.co.za...
>
>http://tinyurl.com/twztk
>
>> Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
>
>You may have a vision problem. Look closely at that image. The important
>stars are labeled in red.
>
Actually, you apparently have a monitor calibration problem. That
image is far too dark for a monitor of proper brightness.
There are calibration images you can download.
And for future reference, an image like that should be saved in PNG
format.
--
- Mike
Ignore the Python in me to send e-mail.
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 08:34:13
From: Eugene Griessel
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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Mike Ruskai <BUTthannydI@DONTearthlinkLIKE.netSPAM > wrote:
<snip >
>And for future reference, an image like that should be saved in PNG
>format.
Why? What's wrong with jpeg?
Eugene L Griessel
When Marriage is Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Inlaws.
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 13:14:06
From: Paul Schlyter
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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In article <453c7e56.7333805@news.uunet.co.za >,
Eugene Griessel <eugene@dynagen..co..za > wrote:
>Mike Ruskai <BUTthannydI@DONTearthlinkLIKE.netSPAM> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>And for future reference, an image like that should be saved in PNG
>>format.
>
>Why? What's wrong with jpeg?
It uses destructive compression. The advantage is that the compressed
image gets smaller - the disadvantage is that the iamge contents are
altered a little. The alterations are such that the image should
"look" pretty much the same, but in fine detail there may be
significant differences.
Its the same with audio and mp3 files: unless the compression is
carried too far, the audio "sounds" the same, but the precise waveform
is not preserved.
>Eugene L Griessel
>
> When Marriage is Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Inlaws.
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 15:00:25
From: Eugene Griessel
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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pausch@saaf.se (Paul Schlyter) wrote:
>>Why? What's wrong with jpeg?
>
>It uses destructive compression. The advantage is that the compressed
>image gets smaller - the disadvantage is that the iamge contents are
>altered a little. The alterations are such that the image should
>"look" pretty much the same, but in fine detail there may be
>significant differences.
>
>Its the same with audio and mp3 files: unless the compression is
>carried too far, the audio "sounds" the same, but the precise waveform
>is not preserved.
Yes - I'm well aware of all that but I doubt it would make any
difference in this particular case. I've been having this fight since
1995 with my data manager (a PNG fan) and I've yet to see a case where
it makes a significant difference to the image as viewed on a monitor.
You have to zoom in real close before the jpeg's fuzziness becomes
significantly important. With images for printing it's a different
matter of course!
Eugene L Griessel
Liar: One who tells an unpleasant truth.
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 10:33:02
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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Eugene Griessel wrote:
> "Algomeysa2" <Algomeysa2NOSPAM@mindspring.comNOPESPAM> wrote:
>
>> <Leesa_Tay@softhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:1161498167.699027.297410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>> I live at the Jersey shore and I notice out my window, towards the SE
>>> there is a very bright star that "seems" to be quite active,
>>> "seemingly" more than the others as it appears to be twinkling and
>>> changing colors. There doesn't appear to be any other bright stars
>>> near it and it definitly isn't part of Orion The Hunter.... I
>>> generally look out about 3:00am and it is maybe 30 or 40 (estimates)
>>> degrees above the horizon.
>>>
>>> >From this limited information, do you have any idea what star this
>>> might be? Again, it appears brighter than any other star in the SE sky
>>> at about 3:00am.
>> See picture:
>> http://tinyurl.com/twztk
>>
>
> Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
>
All the stars appear in the sky without names.... :-)
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 11:50:55
From: Eugene Griessel
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com > wrote:
>Eugene Griessel wrote:
>> "Algomeysa2" <Algomeysa2NOSPAM@mindspring.comNOPESPAM> wrote:
>>
>>> <Leesa_Tay@softhome.net> wrote in message
>>> news:1161498167.699027.297410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> I live at the Jersey shore and I notice out my window, towards the SE
>>>> there is a very bright star that "seems" to be quite active,
>>>> "seemingly" more than the others as it appears to be twinkling and
>>>> changing colors. There doesn't appear to be any other bright stars
>>>> near it and it definitly isn't part of Orion The Hunter.... I
>>>> generally look out about 3:00am and it is maybe 30 or 40 (estimates)
>>>> degrees above the horizon.
>>>>
>>>> >From this limited information, do you have any idea what star this
>>>> might be? Again, it appears brighter than any other star in the SE sky
>>>> at about 3:00am.
>>> See picture:
>>> http://tinyurl.com/twztk
>>>
>>
>> Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
>>
>
> All the stars appear in the sky without names.... :-)
S'true. However, although I may be dismally wrong, I do seem to
recall the original poster asking for help with the identification of
a particular star. The answer "star" would not have met that
criteria.
Eugene L Griessel
My pessimism extends to the point of even suspecting the sincerity
of other pessimists.
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 22:22:42
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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Eugene Griessel wrote:
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>> Eugene Griessel wrote:
>>> "Algomeysa2" <Algomeysa2NOSPAM@mindspring.comNOPESPAM> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <Leesa_Tay@softhome.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:1161498167.699027.297410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> I live at the Jersey shore and I notice out my window, towards the SE
>>>>> there is a very bright star that "seems" to be quite active,
>>>>> "seemingly" more than the others as it appears to be twinkling and
>>>>> changing colors. There doesn't appear to be any other bright stars
>>>>> near it and it definitly isn't part of Orion The Hunter.... I
>>>>> generally look out about 3:00am and it is maybe 30 or 40 (estimates)
>>>>> degrees above the horizon.
>>>>>
>>>>> >From this limited information, do you have any idea what star this
>>>>> might be? Again, it appears brighter than any other star in the SE sky
>>>>> at about 3:00am.
>>>> See picture:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/twztk
>>>>
>>> Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
>>>
>> All the stars appear in the sky without names.... :-)
>
> S'true. However, although I may be dismally wrong, I do seem to
> recall the original poster asking for help with the identification of
> a particular star. The answer "star" would not have met that
> criteria.
>
>
> Eugene L Griessel
>
> My pessimism extends to the point of even suspecting the sincerity
> of other pessimists.
That's Sirius man!
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 06:35:57
From: Eugene Griessel
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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Leesa_Tay@softhome.net wrote:
>I live at the Jersey shore and I notice out my window, towards the SE
>there is a very bright star that "seems" to be quite active,
>"seemingly" more than the others as it appears to be twinkling and
>changing colors. There doesn't appear to be any other bright stars
>near it and it definitly isn't part of Orion The Hunter.... I
>generally look out about 3:00am and it is maybe 30 or 40 (estimates)
>degrees above the horizon.
>
>>From this limited information, do you have any idea what star this
>might be? Again, it appears brighter than any other star in the SE sky
>at about 3:00am.
Probably Sirius.
Eugene L Griessel
It is bad luck to be superstitious.
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Date: 21 Oct 2006 23:35:10
From: SkySea
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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I'm pretty darned certain it's Sirius. It so happens to be the
brightest star as seen from Earth (excepting the Sun, of course).
On 21 2006 23:22:47 -0700, Leesa_Tay@softhome.net wrote:
>I live at the Jersey shore and I notice out my window, towards the SE
>there is a very bright star that "seems" to be quite active,
>"seemingly" more than the others as it appears to be twinkling and
>changing colors. There doesn't appear to be any other bright stars
>near it and it definitly isn't part of Orion The Hunter.... I
>generally look out about 3:00am and it is maybe 30 or 40 (estimates)
>degrees above the horizon.
>
>>From this limited information, do you have any idea what star this
>might be? Again, it appears brighter than any other star in the SE sky
>at about 3:00am.
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>LEESA (I)
=============
- Dale Gombert (SkySea at aol.com)
122.38W, 47.58N, W. Seattle, WA
http://flavorj.com/~skysea
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 16:57:59
From:
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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That's Sirius man!
LOL .... Just like the Jermaine Jackson song says...
LET'S GET SERIOUS........ LMAO
Thanks
LEESA (I)
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 15:20:19
From:
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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Thanks..... So, SIRIUS it is.
LEESA (I)
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 07:08:48
From:
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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Paul Schlyter wrote:
> In article <1161599316.982755.87820@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> <wsnell01@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >Mike Ruskai wrote:
> >> On or about Sun, 22 2006 11:53:31 GMT did "Algomeysa2"
> >> <Algomeysa2NOSPAM@mindspring.comNOPESPAM> dribble thusly:
> >>
> >> >"Eugene Griessel" <eugene@dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
> >> >news:453b4311.8728406@news.uunet.co.za...
> >> >
> >> >http://tinyurl.com/twztk
> >> >
> >> >> Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
> >> >
> >> >You may have a vision problem. Look closely at that image. The important
> >> >stars are labeled in red.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Actually, you apparently have a monitor calibration problem. That
> >> image is far too dark for a monitor of proper brightness.
> >
> >Red on black (and vice versa) can be impossible, or at least very
> >difficult, for some color-blind people to read. It isn't particularly
> >easy with normal vision either.
>
> Depends on how bright the red is. In fine detail, there must be an obvious
> difference in luminance for the fine detail to be easily seen, since in fine
> detail we're all pretty much colorblind (a fact utilized by color TV to
> transmit chrominance information with much lower bandwidth than luminance
> information). So dark <any color> on black (and vice versa) is very
> difficult to read for anyone.
>
In one form of color blindness, the retina is insensitive enough to
red, that red appears black; the luminance doesn't matter. In any case
it is better not to use red with black for text.
> >Nevertheless it is a useful chart (Thanks, Algomeysa!)
> >
<snip >
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 03:28:37
From:
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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Mike Ruskai wrote:
> On or about Sun, 22 2006 11:53:31 GMT did "Algomeysa2"
> <Algomeysa2NOSPAM@mindspring.comNOPESPAM> dribble thusly:
>
> >"Eugene Griessel" <eugene@dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
> >news:453b4311.8728406@news.uunet.co.za...
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/twztk
> >
> >> Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
> >
> >You may have a vision problem. Look closely at that image. The important
> >stars are labeled in red.
> >
>
> Actually, you apparently have a monitor calibration problem. That
> image is far too dark for a monitor of proper brightness.
Red on black (and vice versa) can be impossible, or at least very
difficult, for some color-blind people to read. It isn't particularly
easy with normal vision either.
Nevertheless it is a useful chart (Thanks, Algomeysa!)
> There are calibration images you can download.
>
> And for future reference, an image like that should be saved in PNG
> format.
> --
> - Mike
>
> Ignore the Python in me to send e-mail.
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 13:14:06
From: Paul Schlyter
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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In article <1161599316.982755.87820@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >,
<wsnell01@hotmail.com > wrote:
>
>Mike Ruskai wrote:
>> On or about Sun, 22 2006 11:53:31 GMT did "Algomeysa2"
>> <Algomeysa2NOSPAM@mindspring.comNOPESPAM> dribble thusly:
>>
>> >"Eugene Griessel" <eugene@dynagen..co..za> wrote in message
>> >news:453b4311.8728406@news.uunet.co.za...
>> >
>> >http://tinyurl.com/twztk
>> >
>> >> Most explicit. A lot of dots, no names.
>> >
>> >You may have a vision problem. Look closely at that image. The important
>> >stars are labeled in red.
>> >
>>
>> Actually, you apparently have a monitor calibration problem. That
>> image is far too dark for a monitor of proper brightness.
>
>Red on black (and vice versa) can be impossible, or at least very
>difficult, for some color-blind people to read. It isn't particularly
>easy with normal vision either.
Depends on how bright the red is. In fine detail, there must be an obvious
difference in luminance for the fine detail to be easily seen, since in fine
detail we're all pretty much colorblind (a fact utilized by color TV to
transmit chrominance information with much lower bandwidth than luminance
information). So dark <any color > on black (and vice versa) is very
difficult to read for anyone.
>Nevertheless it is a useful chart (Thanks, Algomeysa!)
>
>> There are calibration images you can download.
>>
>> And for future reference, an image like that should be saved in PNG
>> format.
>> --
>> - Mike
>>
>> Ignore the Python in me to send e-mail.
>
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Paul Schlyter, Grev Turegatan 40, SE-114 38 Stockholm, SWEDEN
e-mail: pausch at stockholm dot bostream dot se
WWW: http://stjarnhimlen.se/
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Date: 23 Oct 2006 09:25:45
From: laura halliday
Subject: Re: Any idea as to which STAR this might be?
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Paul Schlyter wrote:
> In article <453c7e56.7333805@news.uunet.co.za>,
> Eugene Griessel <eugene@dynagen..co..za> wrote:
> >Mike Ruskai <BUTthannydI@DONTearthlinkLIKE.netSPAM> wrote:
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >>And for future reference, an image like that should be saved in PNG
> >>format.
> >
> >Why? What's wrong with jpeg?
>
> It uses destructive compression. The advantage is that the compressed
> image gets smaller - the disadvantage is that the iamge contents are
> altered a little. The alterations are such that the image should
> "look" pretty much the same, but in fine detail there may be
> significant differences.
The usual term is "lossy" compression.
For photographs and other continuous-tone images, it
works fine.
For pictures like star charts, what we want to see *is*
the fine detail. Line art is also not well suited to JPEG.
This is why we use raw format for DSLR astrophotography.
The faint detail discarded by JPEG compression is usually
what we're trying to photograph!
Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Que les nuages soient notre
Grid: CN89mg pied a terre..."
ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Hospital/Shafte
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