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Date: 25 Aug 2006 10:40:26
From:
Subject: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

Today (thanks to Nod's link to the most impressive Fortean Times web
site) I have been investigating the possibilities of constructing a
Leyden Jar. I was inspired by a description of such device on the
Fortean Times page relating to the Ark of the Covenant possibly
possessing the same unique properties.

http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/207_ark1.shtml

A description taken from a book published in 1899 describes the Leyden
Jar thus:

It consists of a glass jar, coated outside and inside with tinfoil to
within 2 or 3 cm of the top. It may therefore be regarded as a
condenser (capacitor) consisting of two parallel plates (positive and
negative) separated by a glass dielectric (insulator). The jar is
provided with a wooden lid, through the centre of which passes a brass
rod, terminating in a brass knob; a short length of metal chain is
attached to the lower end, and of sufficient length to touch the
tinfoil lining. The tinfoil serves as the insulated conductor, which
may be conveniently charged through the knob; the jar is either placed
on a table or held in the hand, so that the outer coating is
consequently earth-connected.

Tomorrow my mission will be to construct such a device using a milk
bottle, some tin-foil (or Baco!) a brass earthing spike (borrowed from
the garden that some wire or other was connected too), a brass knob
from the wardrobe, various other household items and a length of chain
from the kitchen sink plug.

Storms around here have been prevalent so it shouldn't be too difficult
to catch some of the power of lighting within the jar. I intend to
attach the brass knob to a lightning rod running down the side of my
local church. This I feel would make a suitable conductor.

The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do I do with
it???? Thoughts???

Baz

Date: 25 Aug 2006 21:36:19
From: Chancellor_Goth
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

<bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk > wrote in message
news:1156527626.643236.120930@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Today (thanks to Nod's link to the most impressive Fortean Times web
> site) I have been investigating the possibilities of constructing a
> Leyden Jar. I was inspired by a description of such device on the
> Fortean Times page relating to the Ark of the Covenant possibly
> possessing the same unique properties.
>
> http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/207_ark1.shtml
>
> A description taken from a book published in 1899 describes the Leyden
> Jar thus:
>
> It consists of a glass jar, coated outside and inside with tinfoil to
> within 2 or 3 cm of the top. It may therefore be regarded as a
> condenser (capacitor) consisting of two parallel plates (positive and
> negative) separated by a glass dielectric (insulator). The jar is
> provided with a wooden lid, through the centre of which passes a brass
> rod, terminating in a brass knob; a short length of metal chain is
> attached to the lower end, and of sufficient length to touch the
> tinfoil lining. The tinfoil serves as the insulated conductor, which
> may be conveniently charged through the knob; the jar is either placed
> on a table or held in the hand, so that the outer coating is
> consequently earth-connected.
>
> Tomorrow my mission will be to construct such a device using a milk
> bottle, some tin-foil (or Baco!) a brass earthing spike (borrowed from
> the garden that some wire or other was connected too), a brass knob
> from the wardrobe, various other household items and a length of chain
> from the kitchen sink plug.
>
> Storms around here have been prevalent so it shouldn't be too difficult
> to catch some of the power of lighting within the jar. I intend to
> attach the brass knob to a lightning rod running down the side of my
> local church. This I feel would make a suitable conductor.
>
> The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do I do with
> it???? Thoughts???
>
> Baz

Shove it up yer arse?

Date: 25 Aug 2006 18:11:53
From: Jan Panteltje
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

On a sunny day (25 Aug 2006 10:40:26 -0700) it happened
bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk wrote in
<1156527626.643236.120930@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com >:

>Storms around here have been prevalent so it shouldn't be too difficult
>to catch some of the power of lighting within the jar. I intend to
>attach the brass knob to a lightning rod running down the side of my
>local church. This I feel would make a suitable conductor.
>
>The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do I do with
>it???? Thoughts???

You will not have to worry about that, as the exploding glass will have
pierced you so many times you wil be dead.

Do not do this, DO NOT DO THIS.

Date: 25 Aug 2006 21:21:29
From: Sjouke Burry
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

Date: 25 Aug 2006 19:06:09
From: Agamemnon
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

Date: 25 Aug 2006 19:04:12
From: Jaxtraw
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> Today (thanks to Nod's link to the most impressive Fortean Times web
> site) I have been investigating the possibilities of constructing a
> Leyden Jar. I was inspired by a description of such device on the
> Fortean Times page relating to the Ark of the Covenant possibly
> possessing the same unique properties.
>
> http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/207_ark1.shtml
>
> A description taken from a book published in 1899 describes the Leyden
> Jar thus:
>
> It consists of a glass jar, coated outside and inside with tinfoil to
> within 2 or 3 cm of the top. It may therefore be regarded as a
> condenser (capacitor) consisting of two parallel plates (positive and
> negative) separated by a glass dielectric (insulator). The jar is
> provided with a wooden lid, through the centre of which passes a brass
> rod, terminating in a brass knob; a short length of metal chain is
> attached to the lower end, and of sufficient length to touch the
> tinfoil lining. The tinfoil serves as the insulated conductor, which
> may be conveniently charged through the knob; the jar is either placed
> on a table or held in the hand, so that the outer coating is
> consequently earth-connected.
>
> Tomorrow my mission will be to construct such a device using a milk
> bottle, some tin-foil (or Baco!) a brass earthing spike (borrowed from
> the garden that some wire or other was connected too), a brass knob
> from the wardrobe, various other household items and a length of chain
> from the kitchen sink plug.
>
> Storms around here have been prevalent so it shouldn't be too
> difficult to catch some of the power of lighting within the jar. I
> intend to attach the brass knob to a lightning rod running down the
> side of my local church. This I feel would make a suitable conductor.
>
> The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do I do
> with it???? Thoughts???
>
> Baz

If you need additional wire for your experiments, you'll probably find
extraneous lengths of it attached to various metalwork around your house-
especially attached to gas and water pipes. It is likely to be green and
yellow in colour. This extra wire is unncessary for the carriage of the
electrical fluid and handy materiel for the scavenging experimenter.

After your experiment, I'd advise cutting a gap in the church's "lightning
conductor". This will help save the church from accidentally "conducting
lightning".

Once you have "tamed the lightning", you can create gaiety among your
friends by offering the charged Leyden Jar to their infant children as an
entertaining toy. Hilarity is sure to ensue.

Ian

--
www.jaxtrawstudios.com
science fiction comics with shagging in

Date: 26 Aug 2006 09:20:02
From:
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

Sorcerer wrote:
> <bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1156588556.000149.303820@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com...
>

Date: 26 Aug 2006 18:06:30
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

<bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk > wrote in message
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 03:35:56
From:
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (25 Aug 2006 10:40:26 -0700) it happened
> bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk wrote in
> <1156527626.643236.120930@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >Storms around here have been prevalent so it shouldn't be too difficult
> >to catch some of the power of lighting within the jar. I intend to
> >attach the brass knob to a lightning rod running down the side of my
> >local church. This I feel would make a suitable conductor.
> >
> >The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do I do with
> >it???? Thoughts???
>
> You will not have to worry about that, as the exploding glass will have
> pierced you so many times you wil be dead.
>
> Do not do this, DO NOT DO THIS.

Thank you for you concern but you have no need to worry. I will be
taking suitable protective precautions to guard against any potential
electrical anomalies. For one - I rarely conduct my experiments using
myself as the guinea pig. Whilst I will be holding the video camera, my
friend Stig will be the one dealing with the jar. I have equipped Stig
with a pair of rubber Wellington boots and some marigolds (rubber
washing up gauntlets). As an extra precaution Stig will also be sat on
his motorcycle - the rubber tyres providing a secondary insulator from
electrical shock. The leyden Jar will sit on top of the fuel tank of
Stig's motorcycle so that he does not have to hold it with his hands.

The jar is now in the final stages of construction. The most difficult
part of the operation was lining the inside of the jar with foil.
Hopefully - should weather conditions be appropriate - we will be ready
to harness the power of lighting late this evening.

One possible use for the power would be as a secondary power source for
an electric powered motor-cycle - perhaps with "in-built" laden jar and
brass or copper whip aerial (for charging during actual travel.)

I will update tomorrow with a review of the experiment.

Bazza

Date: 26 Aug 2006 12:19:43
From: Sorcerer
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

<bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk > wrote in message
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Date: 26 Aug 2006 23:13:28
From: Dan Tilque
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic)

bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:

>
> A description taken from a book published in 1899 describes
> the Leyden Jar thus:
> ...
>
> The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do
> I do with it???? Thoughts???

Got any dead bodies that need reanimating?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072431/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0021884/

--
Dan Tilque

Date: 27 Aug 2006 17:39:03
From: Bazza
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

"Dan Tilque" <dtilque@nwlink.com > wrote in message
news:12f2dngfnlsnbfd@corp.supernews.com...
> bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>
>>
>> A description taken from a book published in 1899 describes
>> the Leyden Jar thus:
>> ...
>>
>> The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do
>> I do with it???? Thoughts???
>
Okay...we spent 3 hours in the Church Yard with zero lightning storms :(

The North West of England weather was playing havoc with my plans by
behaving itself. We did get through a crate of Bud Ice in the process
though, and only just made it home on our bikes as we were all over the
freakin road! lol

Once back at the flat I decided to lower my expectations of the experiment
and resort to testing out the properties of the :Leyden jar in a more
controlled manner. I had an old power supply from a computer and carefully
bared some of the wires. I then fastened a positive wire to the exterior of
the jar and the neutral to the brass spike. Everything was fine at this
point until my friend Spike plugged the device into the mains socket. Stig -
who was holding the jar at the time - convulsed in a strange manner and then
there followed a loud bang and all the lights went out in the flat. And in
the flat below.

At present we still haven't fixed the fault and the lights are still off
even though we have now unplugged the device from the electrical socket. Any
clues as to how to fix appreciated. A nail in the fusebox just gets hot and
smells so that's no longer an option.

Stig suffered minor burns but overall doesn't appear to be too badly
injured - just a little shook up (literally).

That might be it for the Leyden Jar experiments for now. (At least until we
can get the power back on.)

If anyone can suggest as to what went wrong I would truly appreciate it. I
suspect some kind of polarity problem or a damaged sine wave in one of the
inverse coils of the transformer. I don't know what that means but it sounds
REAL bad.

Bazza

Date: 28 Aug 2006 11:30:40
From: PD
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

Bazza wrote:
> "Dan Tilque" <dtilque@nwlink.com> wrote in message
> news:12f2dngfnlsnbfd@corp.supernews.com...
> > bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> A description taken from a book published in 1899 describes
> >> the Leyden Jar thus:
> >> ...
> >>
> >> The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do
> >> I do with it???? Thoughts???
> >
> Okay...we spent 3 hours in the Church Yard with zero lightning storms :(
>
> The North West of England weather was playing havoc with my plans by
> behaving itself. We did get through a crate of Bud Ice in the process
> though, and only just made it home on our bikes as we were all over the
> freakin road! lol
>
> Once back at the flat I decided to lower my expectations of the experiment
> and resort to testing out the properties of the :Leyden jar in a more
> controlled manner. I had an old power supply from a computer and carefully
> bared some of the wires. I then fastened a positive wire to the exterior of
> the jar and the neutral to the brass spike. Everything was fine at this
> point until my friend Spike plugged the device into the mains socket. Stig -
> who was holding the jar at the time - convulsed in a strange manner and then
> there followed a loud bang and all the lights went out in the flat. And in
> the flat below.
>
> At present we still haven't fixed the fault and the lights are still off
> even though we have now unplugged the device from the electrical socket. Any
> clues as to how to fix appreciated. A nail in the fusebox just gets hot and
> smells so that's no longer an option.
>
> Stig suffered minor burns but overall doesn't appear to be too badly
> injured - just a little shook up (literally).
>
> That might be it for the Leyden Jar experiments for now. (At least until we
> can get the power back on.)
>
> If anyone can suggest as to what went wrong I would truly appreciate it. I
> suspect some kind of polarity problem or a damaged sine wave in one of the
> inverse coils of the transformer. I don't know what that means but it sounds
> REAL bad.
>

The mistake was changing the venue from the churchyard, where at least
you could have dragged out a few pews for bleachers and charged an
admission fee to a substantial number of spectators. Proceeds from the
box office would have funded future experiments, no doubt to larger
crowds. With any luck, you would have made it to experiments in outdoor
ampitheatres before Stig turned black and tipped over.

PD

Date: 28 Aug 2006 23:03:56
From: Bazza
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

"PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1156789840.471056.263170@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Bazza wrote:
> > "Dan Tilque" <dtilque@nwlink.com> wrote in message
> > news:12f2dngfnlsnbfd@corp.supernews.com...
> > > bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> A description taken from a book published in 1899 describes
> > >> the Leyden Jar thus:
> > >> ...
> > >>
> > >> The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do
> > >> I do with it???? Thoughts???
> > >
> > Okay...we spent 3 hours in the Church Yard with zero lightning storms :(
> >
> > The North West of England weather was playing havoc with my plans by
> > behaving itself. We did get through a crate of Bud Ice in the process
> > though, and only just made it home on our bikes as we were all over the
> > freakin road! lol
> >
> > Once back at the flat I decided to lower my expectations of the
experiment
> > and resort to testing out the properties of the :Leyden jar in a more
> > controlled manner. I had an old power supply from a computer and
carefully
> > bared some of the wires. I then fastened a positive wire to the exterior
of
> > the jar and the neutral to the brass spike. Everything was fine at this
> > point until my friend Spike plugged the device into the mains socket.
Stig -
> > who was holding the jar at the time - convulsed in a strange manner and
then
> > there followed a loud bang and all the lights went out in the flat. And
in
> > the flat below.
> >
> > At present we still haven't fixed the fault and the lights are still off
> > even though we have now unplugged the device from the electrical socket.
Any
> > clues as to how to fix appreciated. A nail in the fusebox just gets hot
and
> > smells so that's no longer an option.
> >
> > Stig suffered minor burns but overall doesn't appear to be too badly
> > injured - just a little shook up (literally).
> >
> > That might be it for the Leyden Jar experiments for now. (At least until
we
> > can get the power back on.)
> >
> > If anyone can suggest as to what went wrong I would truly appreciate it.
I
> > suspect some kind of polarity problem or a damaged sine wave in one of
the
> > inverse coils of the transformer. I don't know what that means but it
sounds
> > REAL bad.
> >
>
> The mistake was changing the venue from the churchyard, where at least
> you could have dragged out a few pews for bleachers and charged an
> admission fee to a substantial number of spectators. Proceeds from the
> box office would have funded future experiments, no doubt to larger
> crowds. With any luck, you would have made it to experiments in outdoor
> ampitheatres before Stig turned black and tipped over.
>
> PD
>

A possible future business venture but I am sceptical about the law in these
matters. I wouldn't want to inadvertently breach some stupid helath & safety
guidelines by appearing in some pre-planned event.

Baz

Date: 29 Aug 2006 09:38:13
From: PD
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

Bazza wrote:
> "PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1156789840.471056.263170@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Bazza wrote:
> > > "Dan Tilque" <dtilque@nwlink.com> wrote in message
> > > news:12f2dngfnlsnbfd@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> A description taken from a book published in 1899 describes
> > > >> the Leyden Jar thus:
> > > >> ...
> > > >>
> > > >> The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do
> > > >> I do with it???? Thoughts???
> > > >
> > > Okay...we spent 3 hours in the Church Yard with zero lightning storms :(
> > >
> > > The North West of England weather was playing havoc with my plans by
> > > behaving itself. We did get through a crate of Bud Ice in the process
> > > though, and only just made it home on our bikes as we were all over the
> > > freakin road! lol
> > >
> > > Once back at the flat I decided to lower my expectations of the
> experiment
> > > and resort to testing out the properties of the :Leyden jar in a more
> > > controlled manner. I had an old power supply from a computer and
> carefully
> > > bared some of the wires. I then fastened a positive wire to the exterior
> of
> > > the jar and the neutral to the brass spike. Everything was fine at this
> > > point until my friend Spike plugged the device into the mains socket.
> Stig -
> > > who was holding the jar at the time - convulsed in a strange manner and
> then
> > > there followed a loud bang and all the lights went out in the flat. And
> in
> > > the flat below.
> > >
> > > At present we still haven't fixed the fault and the lights are still off
> > > even though we have now unplugged the device from the electrical socket.
> Any
> > > clues as to how to fix appreciated. A nail in the fusebox just gets hot
> and
> > > smells so that's no longer an option.
> > >
> > > Stig suffered minor burns but overall doesn't appear to be too badly
> > > injured - just a little shook up (literally).
> > >
> > > That might be it for the Leyden Jar experiments for now. (At least until
> we
> > > can get the power back on.)
> > >
> > > If anyone can suggest as to what went wrong I would truly appreciate it.
> I
> > > suspect some kind of polarity problem or a damaged sine wave in one of
> the
> > > inverse coils of the transformer. I don't know what that means but it
> sounds
> > > REAL bad.
> > >
> >
> > The mistake was changing the venue from the churchyard, where at least
> > you could have dragged out a few pews for bleachers and charged an
> > admission fee to a substantial number of spectators. Proceeds from the
> > box office would have funded future experiments, no doubt to larger
> > crowds. With any luck, you would have made it to experiments in outdoor
> > ampitheatres before Stig turned black and tipped over.
> >
> > PD
> >
>
> A possible future business venture but I am sceptical about the law in these
> matters. I wouldn't want to inadvertently breach some stupid helath & safety
> guidelines by appearing in some pre-planned event.

Ah, good point. Must move to viral.
- Hold the event but do not advertise or charge admission
- Videotape the event. Make sure cameraman giggles like a jackass at
the appropriate moment.
- Post a teaser clip for free on youtube.com and video.google.com, and
charge 99 cents for a download of the full clip.

PD

>
> Baz

Date: 29 Aug 2006 20:27:53
From: Bazza
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

"PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com > wrote in message
news:1156869493.177091.240480@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Bazza wrote:
> > "PD" <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1156789840.471056.263170@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Bazza wrote:
> > > > "Dan Tilque" <dtilque@nwlink.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:12f2dngfnlsnbfd@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > bazza2556@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A description taken from a book published in 1899 describes
> > > > >> the Leyden Jar thus:
> > > > >> ...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The question is ...once I've captured the electricity what do
> > > > >> I do with it???? Thoughts???
> > > > >
> > > > Okay...we spent 3 hours in the Church Yard with zero lightning
storms :(
> > > >
> > > > The North West of England weather was playing havoc with my plans by
> > > > behaving itself. We did get through a crate of Bud Ice in the
process
> > > > though, and only just made it home on our bikes as we were all over
the
> > > > freakin road! lol
> > > >
> > > > Once back at the flat I decided to lower my expectations of the
> > experiment
> > > > and resort to testing out the properties of the :Leyden jar in a
more
> > > > controlled manner. I had an old power supply from a computer and
> > carefully
> > > > bared some of the wires. I then fastened a positive wire to the
exterior
> > of
> > > > the jar and the neutral to the brass spike. Everything was fine at
this
> > > > point until my friend Spike plugged the device into the mains
socket.
> > Stig -
> > > > who was holding the jar at the time - convulsed in a strange manner
and
> > then
> > > > there followed a loud bang and all the lights went out in the flat.
And
> > in
> > > > the flat below.
> > > >
> > > > At present we still haven't fixed the fault and the lights are still
off
> > > > even though we have now unplugged the device from the electrical
socket.
> > Any
> > > > clues as to how to fix appreciated. A nail in the fusebox just gets
hot
> > and
> > > > smells so that's no longer an option.
> > > >
> > > > Stig suffered minor burns but overall doesn't appear to be too badly
> > > > injured - just a little shook up (literally).
> > > >
> > > > That might be it for the Leyden Jar experiments for now. (At least
until
> > we
> > > > can get the power back on.)
> > > >
> > > > If anyone can suggest as to what went wrong I would truly appreciate
it.
> > I
> > > > suspect some kind of polarity problem or a damaged sine wave in one
of
> > the
> > > > inverse coils of the transformer. I don't know what that means but
it
> > sounds
> > > > REAL bad.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The mistake was changing the venue from the churchyard, where at least
> > > you could have dragged out a few pews for bleachers and charged an
> > > admission fee to a substantial number of spectators. Proceeds from the
> > > box office would have funded future experiments, no doubt to larger
> > > crowds. With any luck, you would have made it to experiments in
outdoor
> > > ampitheatres before Stig turned black and tipped over.
> > >
> > > PD
> > >
> >
> > A possible future business venture but I am sceptical about the law in
these
> > matters. I wouldn't want to inadvertently breach some stupid helath &
safety
> > guidelines by appearing in some pre-planned event.
>
> Ah, good point. Must move to viral.
> - Hold the event but do not advertise or charge admission
> - Videotape the event. Make sure cameraman giggles like a jackass at
> the appropriate moment.
> - Post a teaser clip for free on youtube.com and video.google.com, and
> charge 99 cents for a download of the full clip.
>
> PD
>
I didn't know you could make money from U-Tube downloads...what a great idea

Baz
>

Date: 29 Aug 2006 17:34:07
From: Edward Green
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

Bazza wrote:

</// >

At first I took it you were writing an extremely fine example of a
peculiarly English style of whatever it is you are writing, which I
can't explain, but recognize when sighted.

Now, you have created the horrid idea that you just might be seriously
executing these experiments. Although your skill at simulating amateur
idiots out to electrocute themselves in fact belies your implicit claim
to be idiots, and puts into very grave doubt your affectation of
stupidity, I just imagine your obvious literary talent might be coupled
with suicidal tendencies and a liberal supply of beer and boredom.

Perhaps you have merely taken a fine adjustment on the verisimilitude,
to maintain an critical equilibrium between plausibility and hilarity.
But I feel sure beer and boredom are involved, at any rate.

Date: 30 Aug 2006 08:29:18
From: Bazza
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

"Edward Green" <spamspamspam3@netzero.com > wrote in message
news:1156898047.191967.241570@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Bazza wrote:
>
> <///>
>
> At first I took it you were writing an extremely fine example of a
> peculiarly English style of whatever it is you are writing, which I
> can't explain, but recognize when sighted.
>
> Now, you have created the horrid idea that you just might be seriously
> executing these experiments. Although your skill at simulating amateur
> idiots out to electrocute themselves in fact belies your implicit claim
> to be idiots, and puts into very grave doubt your affectation of
> stupidity, I just imagine your obvious literary talent might be coupled
> with suicidal tendencies and a liberal supply of beer and boredom.
>
> Perhaps you have merely taken a fine adjustment on the verisimilitude,
> to maintain an critical equilibrium between plausibility and hilarity.
> But I feel sure beer and boredom are involved, at any rate.
>
Yes...and large amounts of hashish also play their part. I have too much
time on my hands right now having recently been made redundant. This
newsgroup and my experiments have become my purpose in life.

Baz

Date: 30 Aug 2006 21:18:48
From: The Face of Po
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

I was hanging out with the cool kids in rec.arts.drwho when
Edward Green got out a spraycan and scrawled the following:
> Bazza wrote:
>
> <///>
>
> Perhaps you have merely taken a fine adjustment on the verisimilitude,
> to maintain an critical equilibrium between plausibility and hilarity.

I agree with the man that wrote the long words there. Bazza, please
unplug your unfortunate friend from the electricity supply, and get back
to churning out your "under the influence" reviews of classic television.

--
Remove caps to communicate more easily.

"twat ... bogey nosed newbie" - Steve F
"a prize prick ... lol" - FairPlay
"another person for the killfile" - DBurns
"Another case of evidence I wish to ignore" - The Dor

Date: 29 Aug 2006 10:27:39
From: Solid Vambo
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

Or a Blotto Box?
http://home.tiscali.be/comicstrip/anarcook/blotbox.htm

Heres more on that ball lightning

http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/cwillis/microwave.html

http://www.amasci.com/tesla/ballgtn.html

http://jlnlabs.online.fr/plasma/gmr/index.htm

Solid Vambo

Date: 29 Aug 2006 17:37:10
From: Bazza
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

"Solid Vambo" <VAMBO_@LYCOS.CO.UK > wrote in message
news:1156872459.117908.61250@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Or a Blotto Box?
> http://home.tiscali.be/comicstrip/anarcook/blotbox.htm
>
> Heres more on that ball lightning
>
> http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/cwillis/microwave.html
>
> http://www.amasci.com/tesla/ballgtn.html
>
> http://jlnlabs.online.fr/plasma/gmr/index.htm
>
>
>
>
> Solid Vambo
>
Fascinating links...I must give the microwave one a try.

Bazza

Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

Date: 29 Aug 2006 17:36:04
From: Bazza
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

"Martin Brown" <

Date: 29 Aug 2006 18:41:35
From: Chris L Peterson
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:36:04 GMT, "Bazza" <bazza256@freeserve.co.uk >
wrote:

>Thats why I'm on here asking for technical advice....

Asking where? I'm seeing this on an amateur astronomy forum, and it
looks like you are also asking a bunch of Dr Who fans. Are these the
people you want to give you technical advice on a subject where the
tiniest of errors could kill you?

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

Date: 29 Aug 2006 20:25:24
From: Bazza
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

"Chris L Peterson" <clp@alumni.caltech.edu > wrote in message
news:1d29f2pc3ur245bpcg02ts9rocgkb5csnh@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:36:04 GMT, "Bazza" <bazza256@freeserve.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >Thats why I'm on here asking for technical advice....
>
> Asking where? I'm seeing this on an amateur astronomy forum, and it
> looks like you are also asking a bunch of Dr Who fans. Are these the
> people you want to give you technical advice on a subject where the
> tiniest of errors could kill you?
>
Well....I did also copy in those so called genius's at sci.physics but they
haven't been much help!

Bazza

Date: 29 Aug 2006 10:20:13
From: Solid Vambo
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

Bazza, your a nutter after my own heart.

What next, Ball lightning from a microwave?

SV

Date: 30 Aug 2006 04:42:21
From: Solid Vambo
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

Bazza wrote:
> "Edward Green" <spamspamspam3@netzero.com> wrote in message
> news:1156898047.191967.241570@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> > Bazza wrote:
> >
> > <///>
> >
> > At first I took it you were writing an extremely fine example of a
> > peculiarly English style of whatever it is you are writing, which I
> > can't explain, but recognize when sighted.
> >
> > Now, you have created the horrid idea that you just might be seriously
> > executing these experiments. Although your skill at simulating amateur
> > idiots out to electrocute themselves in fact belies your implicit claim
> > to be idiots, and puts into very grave doubt your affectation of
> > stupidity, I just imagine your obvious literary talent might be coupled
> > with suicidal tendencies and a liberal supply of beer and boredom.
> >
> > Perhaps you have merely taken a fine adjustment on the verisimilitude,
> > to maintain an critical equilibrium between plausibility and hilarity.
> > But I feel sure beer and boredom are involved, at any rate.
> >
> Yes...and large amounts of hashish also play their part. I have too much
> time on my hands right now having recently been made redundant. This
> newsgroup and my experiments have become my purpose in life.
>
> Baz

God Baz, i didn't know things we're that bad!

Don't fry yourself man, and if you do the microwave thing, do it near a
window!

SV

Date: 30 Aug 2006 15:23:13
From: Bazza
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

"Solid Vambo" <VAMBO_@LYCOS.CO.UK > wrote in message
news:1156938141.143475.272750@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Bazza wrote:
>> "Edward Green" <spamspamspam3@netzero.com> wrote in message
>> news:1156898047.191967.241570@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>> > Bazza wrote:
>> >
>> > <///>
>> >
>> > At first I took it you were writing an extremely fine example of a
>> > peculiarly English style of whatever it is you are writing, which I
>> > can't explain, but recognize when sighted.
>> >
>> > Now, you have created the horrid idea that you just might be seriously
>> > executing these experiments. Although your skill at simulating amateur
>> > idiots out to electrocute themselves in fact belies your implicit claim
>> > to be idiots, and puts into very grave doubt your affectation of
>> > stupidity, I just imagine your obvious literary talent might be coupled
>> > with suicidal tendencies and a liberal supply of beer and boredom.
>> >
>> > Perhaps you have merely taken a fine adjustment on the verisimilitude,
>> > to maintain an critical equilibrium between plausibility and hilarity.
>> > But I feel sure beer and boredom are involved, at any rate.
>> >
>> Yes...and large amounts of hashish also play their part. I have too much
>> time on my hands right now having recently been made redundant. This
>> newsgroup and my experiments have become my purpose in life.
>>
>> Baz
>
> God Baz, i didn't know things we're that bad!
>
> Don't fry yourself man, and if you do the microwave thing, do it near a
> window!
>
> SV

Don't worry...there is a certain freedom that comes to one with nothing to
loose....

Baz

Date: 30 Aug 2006 04:39:52
From: Solid Vambo
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

Bazza wrote:
> "Solid Vambo" <VAMBO_@LYCOS.CO.UK> wrote in message
> news:1156872459.117908.61250@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> > Or a Blotto Box?
> > http://home.tiscali.be/comicstrip/anarcook/blotbox.htm
> >
> > Heres more on that ball lightning
> >
> > http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/cwillis/microwave.html
> >
> > http://www.amasci.com/tesla/ballgtn.html
> >
> > http://jlnlabs.online.fr/plasma/gmr/index.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Solid Vambo
> >
> Fascinating links...I must give the microwave one a try.
>
> Bazza

Suprised you didn't know of that one already...

I am a bad influence ;)

SV

Date:
From: Martin Brown
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

Date: 05 Sep 2006 07:26:12
From: Solid Vambo
Subject: Re: An experiment too far? (off-topic) UPDATE

And when your freedom comes along...Don't pish in the water supply!

SV