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Date: 30 Oct 2006 05:17:15
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: APOD: Crescent Venus and Moon
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APOD: Crescent Venus and Moon http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap061030.html
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 19:38:07
From: Mark Gingrich
Subject: Re: APOD: Crescent Venus and Moon
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Sam Wormley wrote: > APOD: Crescent Venus and Moon > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap061030.html A similar Moon-Venus encounter is slated for 18 June 2007. Best of all, observers over a large swath of the Middle East may get to see Venus disappear behind the crescent Moon during prime-time hours -- always a sensational event, but even more so in this case owing to a rather interesting coincidence. Viewed from southern Pakistan, specifically along the Arabian Sea coast, Venus will touch the unlit lunar limb about midway between the Moon's cusps. (Fire up your favorite sky simulator and plug in the following values, which correspond to Pakistan's largest city, Karachi... Longitude: 67.0 E Latitude: 25.0 N Date: 18 June 2007 Time: 16:00 UT ... then zoom in on the Moon to get the pre-occultation visage.) Here we have, then, hanging some 18 degrees above the western horizon, under a dark sky, a stunning simulacrum of the crescent and star depicted on Pakistan's national flag: http://flagspot.net/flags/pk.html . Such a spectacle surely can't fail to impress the Pakistani populace! 'Tis notable that this same occultation is visible also from Turkey and Azerbaijan, both of which decorate their respective flags with the crescent and star. However, from these locales the planet meets the Moon in broad daylight. Pakistan has a literacy rate somewhat less than 50 percent. I can't help but wonder whether some Pakistanis, if not forewarned by their news media, might consider this heavenly sight a divine omen. And with the occultation also visible from bordering northwest India -- Pakistan's rival -- how might it be interpreted there? So I don't think it too far-fetched that this natural, expected occurrence could motivate a few extremists to act in some brash way for religious, nationalistic, or political reasons. -- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Mark Gingrich grinch@rahul.net San Leandro, California
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Date: 31 Oct 2006 21:57:11
From: Anthony Ayiomamitis
Subject: Re: APOD: Crescent Venus and Moon
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Mark Gingrich wrote: > Sam Wormley wrote: > > >>APOD: Crescent Venus and Moon >> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap061030.html > > > > A similar Moon-Venus encounter is slated for 18 June 2007. Best of > all, observers over a large swath of the Middle East may get to see > Venus disappear behind the crescent Moon during prime-time hours > -- always a sensational event, but even more so in this case owing > to a rather interesting coincidence. I just checked and we in Greece are prime for the event. THANKS MARK! ;-) Anthony. > > Viewed from southern Pakistan, specifically along the Arabian Sea > coast, Venus will touch the unlit lunar limb about midway between the > Moon's cusps. (Fire up your favorite sky simulator and plug in the <snip >
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 10:26:27
From: oriel36
Subject: Re: APOD: Crescent Venus and Moon
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Sam Wormley wrote: > APOD: Crescent Venus and Moon > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap061030.html For the heliocentrist, you are looking at the orbital orientation of Venus relative to the orbital position of the Earth.Orbital orientations (no crescent-like thinking) is extremely important for climatological purposes as that change in the Earth's orbital orientation generates global climate and as a subset; hemispherical weather patterns (seasons). In eight days you can show them Mercury passing the face of the Sun but for adults there is orbital comparisons between Earth and Mercury to appreciate and why the orbital orientation of Mercury to the Sun and to the Earth's orbit shows a complete orbital shadow(Mercury). So much information to be gained from the Mercury event and few around to take advantage of it,even with modern imaging technology..
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