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Date: 28 Jul 2006 11:40:12
From: Willie R. Meghar
Subject: 28 July 2006 UT Obs. Report
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Latitude: between 45 and 46 degrees North Telescope: 13cm (5.1 inch) f/6 apochromat Zenithal Naked-Eye Limiting Magnitude: 6.0 Seeing: I to II on Antoniadi Scale Magnifications used: 21x through 210x The Session in Brief: Pluto hunting, Barnard's Galaxy, and NGC 6818 (the planetary nebula near Barnard's Galaxy). This session was also first starlight for a new set of Orion Highlight Plossls (26mm, 20mm, 17mm, 12.5mm, 10mm and 7.5mm) and a Shorty-Plus 2x barlow. Prior to darkfall a thin haze from a distant fire was apparent, most noticeably near the horizon; but the entire sky was affected to some degree. Nevertheless, I went ahead with a plan that started with a Pluto hunt (thanks to Martin Howell's suggestion). After darkfall an aurora was quite apparent in the north. The display was fairly bright encompassing quite a bit of sky; but devoid of any noteworthy structure. The combination of the thin haze and aurora adversely affected my limiting magnitude by 0.5 magnitudes. Nevertheless, since I had planned to shoot for Pluto I made that my first target. I gradually increased magnification until I got to a 7.5mm Plossl. Then I settled down and sketched the star field in the region around Pluto's known position. A few faint stars were seen that were absent from my GSC printout. One of these would briefly appear near enough to Pluto's known position to gain some serious suspicion. I switched to a 6mm Orthoscopic eyepiece and the suspicious star's presence became more convincing, but was still invisible more often than it was visible. This star's position seemed to differ from Pluto's position by just enough to raise a bit of doubt, yet it was tantalizingly close. I'll need two better observations separated by at least a day before I'll feel confident that I've found Pluto. On better nights, during previous years I've seen Pluto with this scope as well as with a 10 inch Newtonian stopped down to a 4 inch clear aperture. I plopped in the 26mm Plossl, pointed the scope at Dabih (Beta Capricorni) swept in RA and was able to detect Barnard's Galaxy as soon is it entered the field of view. The galaxy was large (about a quarter of a degree in diameter), very faint, and very diffuse. The galaxy seemed a little better with a 27mm Panoptic. I finally dropped down to 21x with an old Meade 40mm SWA eyepiece. I felt the galaxy was better with the Panoptic. The background sky may have been brightened too much with the 40mm eyepiece and its large exit pupil. Next I experimented with the Plossls, gradually increasing the magnification on Barnard's Galaxy. The 20mm and 17mm Plossls showed the galaxy; but with the 12.5mm I was beginning to need a bit of imagination in order to maintain the galaxy's visibility. That seemed to be the right place to stop. At least in my memory, this galaxy was better a few nights ago using mounted 25x100 binoculars. That was a more transparent night with a magnitude 6.5 sky. On to NGC 6818, the planetary near Barnard's Galaxy. This object was bright and easy to identify even at low magnification. Unlike nearby stars of similar brightness, direct vision would render the planetary invisible. Also, at low power the planetary had a slightly 'fuzzy' appearance that helped make it look just a little different than a star. This was a good object to increase magnification on (besides, I wanted to try out a new barlow). I slipped in the barlow and went through all the Plossls. The view with the barlowed 7.5mm Plossl was very nice and sharp (remember, the seeing was quite good this night). The planetary at high power was a bright, featureless, circular disk -- looking very much like a distant gas giant planet. A star was visible about two planetary diameters to the east of the nebula. I finished off the evening with a quick look at M13, again going through the barlowed Plossls. At all magnifications the stars in the cluster would 'snap' into focus at one precise position as the focuser was worked. This evening may have been rather poor in the transparency department; but it was better than usual in seeing. I'm very happy with the performance of the new Plossls and barlow, at least for deepsky observing. Willie R. Meghar
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Date: 28 Jul 2006 19:43:59
From: SkySea
Subject: Re: 28 July 2006 UT Obs. Report
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Thanks for the report. A couple of ideas: I've found that if Pluto is close enough to another star, you can see Pluto's position change over the course of one night (when not near a standstill). You may not need to wait for another night. It will vary enough over 24 hours that the field of view can be radically different. So I'd recommend sketching both where you think you see it on the observing night (later, "Aha! That was it!"), and for the next night. That way, you'll already have accounted for all the stars you can see in your scope, so anything new would likely be Pluto (unless you're seeing another moving object). Happy hunting! >On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:40:12 -0600, Willie R. Meghar >Then I settled >down and sketched the star field in the region around Pluto's known >position. A few faint stars were seen that were absent from my GSC >printout. One of these would briefly appear near enough to Pluto's >known position to gain some serious suspicion. I switched to a 6mm >Orthoscopic eyepiece and the suspicious star's presence became more >convincing, but was still invisible more often than it was visible. >This star's position seemed to differ from Pluto's position by just >enough to raise a bit of doubt, yet it was tantalizingly close. I'll >need two better observations separated by at least a day before I'll >feel confident that I've found Pluto. On better nights, during >previous years I've seen Pluto with this scope as well as with a 10 >inch Newtonian stopped down to a 4 inch clear aperture. ============= - Dale Gombert (SkySea at aol.com) 122.38W, 47.58N, W. Seattle, WA http://flavorj.com/~skysea
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Date: 28 Jul 2006 11:25:57
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: 28 July 2006 UT Obs. Report
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Willie R. Meghar wrote: > > The Session in Brief: > Pluto hunting, Barnard's Galaxy, and NGC 6818 (the planetary nebula > near Barnard's Galaxy). This session was also first starlight for a > new set of Orion Highlight Plossls (26mm, 20mm, 17mm, 12.5mm, 10mm and > 7.5mm) and a Shorty-Plus 2x barlow. > Hi: If you can do Pluto with a 5-inch refractor, my hat's off to you. I did it some years back with a 12.5-inch Newtonian from the dark skies of the Texas Star Party. My notes? "Pluto can be held fairly steady with direct vision at about 400x, but it is D-I-M!" Keep us posted on your efforts. Peace, Rod Mollise Author of: Choosing and Using a Schmidt Cassegrain Telescope and The Urban Astronomer's Guide <http://skywatch.brainiac.com/astroland > The Annual SCT User Imaging Contest is Underway! <http://www.rothritter.com/contest/2006/ >
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Date: 02 Aug 2006 12:36:10
From: Arnold
Subject: Re: 28 July 2006 UT Obs. Report
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Willie R. Meghar wrote: > At least in my memory, this galaxy was > better a few nights ago using mounted 25x100 binoculars. That was a > more transparent night with a magnitude 6.5 sky. Good day I'm interested in buying a pair of 25x100's later on. What make of binoculars are you using? How do you mount them? Your general impressions? Regards A
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Date: 02 Aug 2006 13:21:54
From: Willie R. Meghar
Subject: Re: 28 July 2006 UT Obs. Report
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Arnold wrote: >Good day > >I'm interested in buying a pair of 25x100's later on. > >What make of binoculars are you using? How do you mount them? >Your general impressions? Hi Arnold, I use Orion 25x100s. The mount I use is based on the pattern shown on the following web page: http://www.rangeweb.net/~sketcher/Binos.html This mount isn't well suited for sharing views with other observers, nor is it suitable for viewing objects at high elevations. Other than those disadvantages it's a pleasing, economical, and effective mount for astronomical and terrestrial use. My general impressions of the Orion 25x100s: As long as the object of interest is kept near the center of the field of view (where the image is sharpest), these binoculars provide exceptional performance. I'm very pleased with the deepsky performance (star clusters, galaxies, nebulae, etc.) when used under a magnitude 6+ sky. Some of the views are quite awesome! The moon is a very impressive sight as well -- sharp with a great deal of visible detail. Eye lenses are large. Eyecups are closely matched to best eye placement. Eyecups can be folded down for use with eye glasses if necessary. Collimation (at least in my pair of 25x100s) is for all practical purposes 'perfect'. One problem (for some people) is the interpupillary distance. Minimum IPD is about 63mm. By removing some aluminum from the hinges it's possible to bring this down to 60mm (at which point the two barrels make contact). If one wants to be nit-picky one may criticize edge of field performance; but as long as one is concentrating one's attention near the field center (using binoculars in a manner in which binoculars should be used) this will go unnoticed. Likewise, some false color will be visible along the lunar limb; but this can be easily ignored by those who are more interested in observing details on the rest of the lunar disk. Exit pupils are not perfectly circular disks; but they're 'close enough' for those more concerned with looking *through* the binoculars than looking *at* the binoculars. For the price, one cannot and should not expect perfection. I'm happy with my Orion 25x100s and have no intention of getting rid of them. Willie R. Meghar
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Date: 11 Aug 2006 10:37:24
From: Arnold
Subject: Re: 28 July 2006 UT Obs. Report
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Willie R. Meghar wrote: > Hi Arnold, > > I use Orion 25x100s. The mount I use is based on the pattern shown on > the following web page: > > http://www.rangeweb.net/~sketcher/Binos.html Hi Willie Thank you for the information on the Orions. My local planetarium imports Orion equipment, so it will be a bit cheaper to order from them rather than buying from Apogee Inc and having it shipped here with Priority delivery. The Priority service is so much more expensive than normal shipping but I am not really willing to take a risk with snail mail either. Take care A -- 25° 45' S 28° 12' E GMT+2 Join the Planetary Society http://www.planetary.org
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Date: 11 Aug 2006 09:50:28
From: darkness.lumpy@gmail.com
Subject: Re: 28 July 2006 UT Obs. Report
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Willie R. Meghar wrote: > Next I experimented with the Plossls, gradually increasing the > magnification on Barnard's Galaxy. The 20mm and 17mm Plossls showed > the galaxy Hi Willie, Enjoyed your report. Curious is you could detect any HII regions in Barnard's Galaxy either in your 5.1" refractor or the binos.
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Date: 12 Aug 2006 00:18:10
From: Willie R. Meghar
Subject: Re: 28 July 2006 UT Obs. Report
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"darkness.lumpy@gmail.com" wrote: >Enjoyed your report. Curious is you could detect any HII regions in >Barnard's Galaxy either in your 5.1" refractor or the binos. Hi Lumpy, I saw no trace of HII regions with either pair of large binoculars. I recall seeing (or imagining) at least one piece of "lumpy brightness" with the refractor when using, IIRC, the 12.5mm (62x) eyepiece; but the galaxy itself was enlarged to the point of being mostly invisible. I didn't mention it in my report, but after seeing or imagining this lump I immediately thought "HII region or stellar concentration". At that point I tried a filter (I think it was a 1.25" Ultra-Block. I would have had to pull out the diagonal in order to screw in my 2" OIII). With the filter only a few stars remained visible -- nothing else. Any galaxy or lump of brightness was completely invisible. A night of better transparency will be needed before I'll be able to clarify the observation. If the night had been more transparent I would have taken more time and tried the OIII filter. Willie R. Meghar
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