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Date: 15 Aug 2007 14:05:53
From: Jim Dubya
Subject: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

What has happened to this newsgroup in the past several days? It is flooded
with Spam. Was this causes by the moron that is stalking Starlord? What can
be done to get rid of this idiot?

Date: 19 Aug 2007 15:42:49
From: Mo Fo USA
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

and you could be in Court soon. or worse!

"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote:

> Jim Dubya wrote:
> > Sorry, Dennis is a respected member of this newsgroup and I don.t believe
> > that he created the flood.
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> > "Borked Pseudo Mailed" <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote in message
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> > > In article <tu5xi.83983$TW6.21849@newsfe06.phx>,
> > > "Jim Dubya" <jimdubya@nospam.com> wrote:
> > >>But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
> > >>flood?". Could someone please answer that question?
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> > > blame shitetard spammertard the barmy stalkertard of
> > > rosatard
> > > wagontard the gimp
> > > and spelling bee champion
> > > the gerbil felching rectal tubing shela buggering arsewipe
> > > nancy boy dennis bishop
> > > is the fawking cause of it all
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> > > here is shitetards famous bugger boy twinkle toes site
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> > > http://tinyurl.com/ypt5fn
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> > >>"Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:4c282$46c4ceef$4212a552$3160@TULAROSA.NET...
> > >>> aglooka wrote:
> > >>>> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
> > >>>> hits leaning all groups are treathened
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> > >>>> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
> > >>>> for software to filter the sporge out
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> > >>> The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
> > >>> including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
> > >>> appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
> > >>> They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Greg Crinklaw
> > >>> Astronomical Software Developer
> > >>> Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
> > >>>
> > >>> SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
> > >>> Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
> > >>> Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
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> His asshole is very loose; your tongue invites a miriad of sinful
> pleasures.

Date: 16 Aug 2007 23:10:48
From: Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Jim Dubya wrote:
> Sorry, Dennis is a respected member of this newsgroup and I don.t believe
> that he created the flood.
>
> "Borked Pseudo Mailed" <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote in message
> news:d997f04d96accda681b1646feb96d916@pseudo.borked.net...
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> > In article <tu5xi.83983$TW6.21849@newsfe06.phx>,
> > "Jim Dubya" <jimdubya@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
> >>flood?". Could someone please answer that question?
> >>
> >
> > blame shitetard spammertard the barmy stalkertard of
> > rosatard
> > wagontard the gimp
> > and spelling bee champion
> > the gerbil felching rectal tubing shela buggering arsewipe
> > nancy boy dennis bishop
> > is the fawking cause of it all
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> > here is shitetards famous bugger boy twinkle toes site
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> > http://tinyurl.com/ypt5fn
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> >>"Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4c282$46c4ceef$4212a552$3160@TULAROSA.NET...
> >>> aglooka wrote:
> >>>> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
> >>>> hits leaning all groups are treathened
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> >>>> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
> >>>> for software to filter the sporge out
> >>>
> >>> The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
> >>> including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
> >>> appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
> >>> They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Greg Crinklaw
> >>> Astronomical Software Developer
> >>> Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
> >>>
> >>> SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
> >>> Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
> >>> Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
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His asshole is very loose; your tongue invites a miriad of sinful
pleasures.

Date: 17 Aug 2007 00:13:21
From: aglooka
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:05:53 -0700, "Jim Dubya" <jimdubya@nospam.com >
wrote:

>What has happened to this newsgroup in the past several days? It is flooded
>with Spam. Was this causes by the moron that is stalking Starlord? What can
>be done to get rid of this idiot?
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If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
hits leaning all groups are treathened

fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
for software to filter the sporge out

example:

soc.genealogy.benelux scheduled for sporge flood

Sporge flooding of soc.genealogy.benelux will commence in a few hours.

This will render soc.genealogy.benelux useless. For an example, see
Sci.Crypt.

Supernews filters out this sporgery spam. Get a better Usenet
experience. Sign up for our risk-free trial today!

https://www.supernews.com/signup

Aglooka

Date: 16 Aug 2007 16:25:58
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

aglooka wrote:
> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
> hits leaning all groups are treathened
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> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
> for software to filter the sporge out

The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com

To reply take out your eye

Date: 16 Aug 2007 16:56:08
From: Jim Dubya
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
flood?". Could someone please answer that question?

"Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:4c282$46c4ceef$4212a552$3160@TULAROSA.NET...
> aglooka wrote:
>> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
>> hits leaning all groups are treathened
>>
>> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
>> for software to filter the sporge out
>
> The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
> including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
> appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
> They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.
>
> --
> Greg Crinklaw
> Astronomical Software Developer
> Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
>
> SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
> Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
> Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
>
> To reply take out your eye

Date: 16 Aug 2007 21:54:51
From: Borked Pseudo Mailed
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

In article <tu5xi.83983$TW6.21849@newsfe06.phx >,
"Jim Dubya" <jimdubya@nospam.com > wrote:
>But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
>flood?". Could someone please answer that question?
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blame shitetard spammertard the barmy stalkertard of rosatard
wagontard the gimp
and spelling bee champion
the gerbil felching rectal tubing shela buggering arsewipe
nancy boy dennis bishop
is the fawking cause of it all

here is shitetards famous bugger boy twinkle toes site

http://tinyurl.com/ypt5fn

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>"Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:4c282$46c4ceef$4212a552$3160@TULAROSA.NET...
>> aglooka wrote:
>>> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
>>> hits leaning all groups are treathened
>>>
>>> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
>>> for software to filter the sporge out
>>
>> The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
>> including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
>> appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
>> They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.
>>
>> --
>> Greg Crinklaw
>> Astronomical Software Developer
>> Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
>>
>> SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
>> Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
>> Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
>>
>> To reply take out your eye

shitetard spammertard buggertard stalkertard wagontard

Date: 19 Aug 2007 15:36:37
From: Mo Fo USA
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Fuck you asshole. Good thing you arent in my community or your
head would be up your ass about now and you would be in surgery.

Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:

> In article <tu5xi.83983$TW6.21849@newsfe06.phx>,
> "Jim Dubya" <jimdubya@nospam.com> wrote:
> >But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
> >flood?". Could someone please answer that question?
> >
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> blame shitetard spammertard the barmy stalkertard of rosatard
> wagontard the gimp
> and spelling bee champion
> the gerbil felching rectal tubing shela buggering arsewipe
> nancy boy dennis bishop
> is the fawking cause of it all
>
> here is shitetards famous bugger boy twinkle toes site
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ypt5fn
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> >"Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:4c282$46c4ceef$4212a552$3160@TULAROSA.NET...
> >> aglooka wrote:
> >>> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
> >>> hits leaning all groups are treathened
> >>>
> >>> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
> >>> for software to filter the sporge out
> >>
> >> The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
> >> including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
> >> appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
> >> They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Greg Crinklaw
> >> Astronomical Software Developer
> >> Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
> >>
> >> SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
> >> Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
> >> Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
> >>
> >> To reply take out your eye
>
> shitetard spammertard buggertard stalkertard wagontard

Date: 16 Aug 2007 21:32:06
From: Jim Dubya
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Sorry, Dennis is a respected member of this newsgroup and I don.t believe
that he created the flood.

"Borked Pseudo Mailed" <nobody@pseudo.borked.net > wrote in message
news:d997f04d96accda681b1646feb96d916@pseudo.borked.net...
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>>But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
>>flood?". Could someone please answer that question?
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> blame shitetard spammertard the barmy stalkertard of
> rosatard
> wagontard the gimp
> and spelling bee champion
> the gerbil felching rectal tubing shela buggering arsewipe
> nancy boy dennis bishop
> is the fawking cause of it all
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> here is shitetards famous bugger boy twinkle toes site
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> http://tinyurl.com/ypt5fn
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>>"Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:4c282$46c4ceef$4212a552$3160@TULAROSA.NET...
>>> aglooka wrote:
>>>> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
>>>> hits leaning all groups are treathened
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>>>> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
>>>> for software to filter the sporge out
>>>
>>> The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
>>> including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
>>> appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
>>> They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Greg Crinklaw
>>> Astronomical Software Developer
>>> Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
>>>
>>> SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
>>> Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
>>> Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
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Date: 19 Aug 2007 15:42:09
From: Mo Fo USA
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Respected - he's a total moron. But he is not the cause. He couldnt be. He cant
tie his shoes. He is nothing but a pest. This all comes on the heels of the
alternate moderated group starting. So somebody decided to help that along and
or make a point. Its
that simple. Either way you cut this one or two people have it in for this
group in particular because I have searched and IT IS NOT
hitting other groups like the fucktards here "say". At least it isnt hitting
any legitimate groups.

Somebody has grudge and a point to make. And I feel this may go on for a very
long time until this group is dead.

So much for usenet administration!

This all happens when most comemrcial isps would like nothing
better than to see all usenet removed.

The assholes win again. Thats the world we live in.

Turn off the lights when you leave.

Jim Dubya wrote:

> Sorry, Dennis is a respected member of this newsgroup and I don.t believe
> that he created the flood.
>
> "Borked Pseudo Mailed" <nobody@pseudo.borked.net> wrote in message
> news:d997f04d96accda681b1646feb96d916@pseudo.borked.net...
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> > "Jim Dubya" <jimdubya@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
> >>flood?". Could someone please answer that question?
> >>
> >
> > blame shitetard spammertard the barmy stalkertard of
> > rosatard
> > wagontard the gimp
> > and spelling bee champion
> > the gerbil felching rectal tubing shela buggering arsewipe
> > nancy boy dennis bishop
> > is the fawking cause of it all
> >
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> > here is shitetards famous bugger boy twinkle toes site
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> > http://tinyurl.com/ypt5fn
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> >>"Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>news:4c282$46c4ceef$4212a552$3160@TULAROSA.NET...
> >>> aglooka wrote:
> >>>> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
> >>>> hits leaning all groups are treathened
> >>>>
> >>>> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
> >>>> for software to filter the sporge out
> >>>
> >>> The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
> >>> including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
> >>> appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
> >>> They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Greg Crinklaw
> >>> Astronomical Software Developer
> >>> Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
> >>>
> >>> SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
> >>> Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
> >>> Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
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Date: 16 Aug 2007 16:56:04
From: Jim Dubya
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Date: 19 Aug 2007 15:35:27
From: Mo Fo USA
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

nobody here will - Vanity is above it.

Jim Dubya wrote:

> But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
> flood?". Could someone please answer that question?
>
> "Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4c282$46c4ceef$4212a552$3160@TULAROSA.NET...
> > aglooka wrote:
> >> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
> >> hits leaning all groups are treathened
> >>
> >> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
> >> for software to filter the sporge out
> >
> > The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
> > including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
> > appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
> > They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.
> >
> > --
> > Greg Crinklaw
> > Astronomical Software Developer
> > Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
> >
> > SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
> > Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
> > Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
> >
> > To reply take out your eye

Date: 16 Aug 2007 16:55:50
From: Jim Dubya
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Date: 19 Aug 2007 15:35:08
From: Mo Fo USA
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

nobody here will! Vanity does not chase!

Jim Dubya wrote:

> But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
> flood?". Could someone please answer that question?
>
> "Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4c282$46c4ceef$4212a552$3160@TULAROSA.NET...
> > aglooka wrote:
> >> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
> >> hits leaning all groups are treathened
> >>
> >> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
> >> for software to filter the sporge out
> >
> > The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
> > including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
> > appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
> > They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.
> >
> > --
> > Greg Crinklaw
> > Astronomical Software Developer
> > Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
> >
> > SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
> > Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
> > Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
> >
> > To reply take out your eye

Date: 16 Aug 2007 16:55:07
From: Jim Dubya
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Date: 19 Aug 2007 15:34:41
From: Mo Fo USA
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

get serious - you think any of these prima donnas here are
goign to waste onesecond finding out - they have better things to do with
their vanity. This group is getting what it so richly deserves.
Except for two or three people this group is nothing but a bunch
of arrogant sometimes misinformed assholes.

Jim Dubya wrote:

> But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
> flood?". Could someone please answer that question?
>
> "Greg Crinklaw" <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:4c282$46c4ceef$4212a552$3160@TULAROSA.NET...
> > aglooka wrote:
> >> If you search internet for "scheduled for sporge flood" you get 63000
> >> hits leaning all groups are treathened
> >>
> >> fynnily ion hte pages that announce this sporge flood there is an ad
> >> for software to filter the sporge out
> >
> > The purposes of a sporge flood is to disrupt as much as possible,
> > including flooding various companies with complaints. In this case it
> > appears that they expect some people to blame supernews for the flood.
> > They also rotate abuse contact emails, apparently for a similar reason.
> >
> > --
> > Greg Crinklaw
> > Astronomical Software Developer
> > Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
> >
> > SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
> > Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
> > Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
> >
> > To reply take out your eye

Date: 19 Aug 2007 20:22:47
From: Esmail
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Mo Fo USA wrote:
> get serious - you think any of these prima donnas here are
> goign to waste onesecond finding out - they have better things to do with
> their vanity. This group is getting what it so richly deserves.
> Except for two or three people this group is nothing but a bunch
> of arrogant sometimes misinformed assholes.

Someone seems to have some anger issues ...

Date: 20 Aug 2007 15:48:24
From: William Foley
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Only SOMETIMES misinformed??
Bill is Back
"Esmail" <ebonak_delme@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:46c8ded7$0$18777$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Mo Fo USA wrote:
>> get serious - you think any of these prima donnas here are
>> goign to waste onesecond finding out - they have better things to do with
>> their vanity. This group is getting what it so richly deserves.
>> Except for two or three people this group is nothing but a bunch
>> of arrogant sometimes misinformed assholes.
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> Someone seems to have some anger issues ...

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Date: 16 Aug 2007 21:04:21
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Jim Dubya wrote:
> But the question still remains: "Who is responsible for generating the
> flood?". Could someone please answer that question?

Why do you expect anyone to know once, much less four times?

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com

To reply take out your eye

Date: 16 Aug 2007 14:00:39
From:
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

On Aug 15, 7:19 pm, "Jan Owen" <janow...@cox.net > wrote:
> Usenet can be uncomfortable for the Politically Correct - inclined much of
> the time, but if you're looking for real data, best come to SAA...
>
> The others are second best...

It must not take much to impress you - this place is a cesspool and
has been for several years.

Date: 16 Aug 2007 18:40:36
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

On Aug 16, 10:08 am, RMOLLISE <rmoll...@hotmail.com > wrote:
> On Aug 16, 10:06 am, Greg Crinklaw <theskyhoundyour...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > RMOLLISE wrote:
> > > I thought this free exchange of views was what
> > > s.a.a. is all about?! ;-)
>
> > No Rod -- it's the long argument complete with personal attacks that
> > comes afterward that SAA is all about! This, and the trolls who go
> > around fanning the flames, are the things that truly makes Usenet stand
> > out from other forums. At least that's been my experience.
>
> > --
> > Greg Crinklaw
> > Astronomical Software Developer
> > Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
>
> > SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
> > Observing:http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
> > Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
>
> > To reply take out your eye
>
> Yep! Dang, Greg, you're right! Thanks for reminding me!
>
> :-)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well, we've been here so long...let's see what happens.

This may be the Bitter End, however.

Rod

Date: 16 Aug 2007 15:08:19
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

On Aug 16, 10:06 am, Greg Crinklaw <theskyhoundyour...@yahoo.com >
wrote:
> RMOLLISE wrote:
> > I thought this free exchange of views was what
> > s.a.a. is all about?! ;-)
>
> No Rod -- it's the long argument complete with personal attacks that
> comes afterward that SAA is all about! This, and the trolls who go
> around fanning the flames, are the things that truly makes Usenet stand
> out from other forums. At least that's been my experience.
>
> --
> Greg Crinklaw
> Astronomical Software Developer
> Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
>
> SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
> Observing:http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
> Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
>
> To reply take out your eye

Yep! Dang, Greg, you're right! Thanks for reminding me!

:-)

Date: 16 Aug 2007 09:56:00
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

RMOLLISE wrote:
> On Aug 16, 10:06 am, Greg Crinklaw <theskyhoundyour...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> RMOLLISE wrote:
>>> I thought this free exchange of views was what
>>> s.a.a. is all about?! ;-)
>> No Rod -- it's the long argument complete with personal attacks that
>> comes afterward that SAA is all about! This, and the trolls who go
>> around fanning the flames, are the things that truly makes Usenet stand
>> out from other forums. At least that's been my experience.
>>
>> --
>> Greg Crinklaw
>> Astronomical Software Developer
>> Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)
>>
>> SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
>> Observing:http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
>> Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com
>>
>> To reply take out your eye
>
> Yep! Dang, Greg, you're right! Thanks for reminding me!

You know if the few hanger's on -- like you -- were to truly leave this
place for another general forum, I'd go too! :-)

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com

To reply take out your eye

Date: 16 Aug 2007 15:05:52
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

On Aug 16, 9:44 am, "Jan Owen" <janow...@cox.net > wrote:
> "RMOLLISE" <rmoll...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1187264506.796588.127070@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 15, 7:52 pm, "Jan Owen" <janow...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> Easy, Rod...
>
> >> What I've said COULD include ones you OWN... They're OK, but not SAA (if
> >> you look, you'll see I've been a member for some time, so I'm not a
> >> newbie,
> >> or blowing smoke)...
>
> >> --
> >> Jan Owen
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > What's with the "easy Rod" business? It's _fine_ with me if you don't
> > like my groups and _say so_ here. You ain't gonna hurt _my_ feelin's,
> > Jan. ;-)
>
> > Where did I say or imply you were a Newbie? I'm aware you've been here
> > a while.
>
> > I was just expressing _my_ opinion that the Yahoogroups, Astromart,
> > and Cloudynights are just as good and valid a source of information as
> > s.a.a. ever has been. I thought this free exchange of views was what
> > s.a.a. is all about?! ;-)
>
> > Unk Rod
>
> Easy, Rod...
>
> {;^)
>
> I didn't say I didn't LIKE your groups, or that there was anything
> specifically wrong with them. I said they're not SAA...
>
> Neither are the Cloudy Nights Forums or Yahoo Groups, or Astromart Forums...
> Each one was founded for a specific reason, which seemed right to it's
> originator at the time... And I believe most of them have tried to remain
> true to their chosen path...
>
> The problem has been that until all these groups came along, SAA was the
> *one-stop shop*, where one could get all the info one would ever need (along
> with some you probably DIDN'T need or want)... But as time wore on, some
> regulars left SAA, to found, or join, other venues... And this not only
> removed some expertise from SAA, it also has resulted in a HUGE number of
> groups, many with very LITTLE (and in some cases, essentially NO) expertise
> in them, because what expertise there is, in a relatively small hobby, can
> only be spread so far... And THAT's what's wrong with most of these groups
> today, including, increasingly, SAA. Of course, SAA still has the trolls
> and looney tunes, too, so that isn't helping it any, either...
>
> But I don't see the answer to our problems in forming even more splinter
> groups, or everyone flocking to some of the existing ones any more than is
> already the case...
>
> I'm a member of a number of other groups, including yours. I visit most of
> the groups, including SAA, several times a day... I still think of SAA as
> the one-stop shop, and it remains my favorite, warts and all... But it for
> sure isn't what it HAS been...
>
> Of course, that's MY opinion.
>
> However you choose to take what I say, rest assured that I really DO respect
> yours too...
>
> --
> Jan Owen
>
> To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
> Latitude: 33.6
> Longitude: -112.3http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Jan...

I _agree_ with everything you've said, more or less.

Yes, it was great back in the days when s.a.a. was all. That was bound
to change, though, as more and more astronomy venues opened on the I-
net (I suppose there's a Yahoogroup devoted to eyepiece lens caps
now ;-)).

NO, there will probably never be a place like s.a.a. 10 or 15 years
ago...but that's not coming back--I wish it would.

That being the case, there's a lot of good in those other places, even
if you have to hop around to get everything you need.

;-)

Rod

Date: 16 Aug 2007 11:41:46
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

On Aug 15, 7:52 pm, "Jan Owen" <janow...@cox.net > wrote:
> Easy, Rod...
>
> What I've said COULD include ones you OWN... They're OK, but not SAA (if
> you look, you'll see I've been a member for some time, so I'm not a newbie,
> or blowing smoke)...
>
> --
> Jan Owen
>
>
> - Show quoted text -

What's with the "easy Rod" business? It's _fine_ with me if you don't
like my groups and _say so_ here. You ain't gonna hurt _my_ feelin's,
Jan. ;-)

Where did I say or imply you were a Newbie? I'm aware you've been here
a while.

I was just expressing _my_ opinion that the Yahoogroups, Astromart,
and Cloudynights are just as good and valid a source of information as
s.a.a. ever has been. I thought this free exchange of views was what
s.a.a. is all about?! ;-)

Unk Rod

Date: 16 Aug 2007 09:06:56
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

RMOLLISE wrote:
> I thought this free exchange of views was what
> s.a.a. is all about?! ;-)

No Rod -- it's the long argument complete with personal attacks that
comes afterward that SAA is all about! This, and the trolls who go
around fanning the flames, are the things that truly makes Usenet stand
out from other forums. At least that's been my experience.

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com

To reply take out your eye

Date: 16 Aug 2007 07:44:47
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

"RMOLLISE" <rmollise@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1187264506.796588.127070@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 15, 7:52 pm, "Jan Owen" <janow...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Easy, Rod...
>>
>> What I've said COULD include ones you OWN... They're OK, but not SAA (if
>> you look, you'll see I've been a member for some time, so I'm not a
>> newbie,
>> or blowing smoke)...
>>
>> --
>> Jan Owen
>>
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> What's with the "easy Rod" business? It's _fine_ with me if you don't
> like my groups and _say so_ here. You ain't gonna hurt _my_ feelin's,
> Jan. ;-)
>
> Where did I say or imply you were a Newbie? I'm aware you've been here
> a while.
>
> I was just expressing _my_ opinion that the Yahoogroups, Astromart,
> and Cloudynights are just as good and valid a source of information as
> s.a.a. ever has been. I thought this free exchange of views was what
> s.a.a. is all about?! ;-)
>
> Unk Rod
>

Easy, Rod...

{;^)

I didn't say I didn't LIKE your groups, or that there was anything
specifically wrong with them. I said they're not SAA...

Neither are the Cloudy Nights Forums or Yahoo Groups, or Astromart Forums...
Each one was founded for a specific reason, which seemed right to it's
originator at the time... And I believe most of them have tried to remain
true to their chosen path...

The problem has been that until all these groups came along, SAA was the
*one-stop shop*, where one could get all the info one would ever need (along
with some you probably DIDN'T need or want)... But as time wore on, some
regulars left SAA, to found, or join, other venues... And this not only
removed some expertise from SAA, it also has resulted in a HUGE number of
groups, many with very LITTLE (and in some cases, essentially NO) expertise
in them, because what expertise there is, in a relatively small hobby, can
only be spread so far... And THAT's what's wrong with most of these groups
today, including, increasingly, SAA. Of course, SAA still has the trolls
and looney tunes, too, so that isn't helping it any, either...

But I don't see the answer to our problems in forming even more splinter
groups, or everyone flocking to some of the existing ones any more than is
already the case...

I'm a member of a number of other groups, including yours. I visit most of
the groups, including SAA, several times a day... I still think of SAA as
the one-stop shop, and it remains my favorite, warts and all... But it for
sure isn't what it HAS been...

Of course, that's MY opinion.

However you choose to take what I say, rest assured that I really DO respect
yours too...

--
Jan Owen

To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3
http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21

Date: 16 Aug 2007 19:00:20
From: Stuart Chapman
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Jim Dubya wrote:
> What has happened to this newsgroup in the past several days? It is flooded
> with Spam. Was this causes by the moron that is stalking Starlord? What can
> be done to get rid of this idiot?
>
>
>
I think if you ignore it, your patience will be longer than the spammer's.

--
Stupot http://insignity.blogspot.com

Date: 16 Aug 2007 03:32:42
From: William Hamblen
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Date: 16 Aug 2007 00:34:20
From: Yepper
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Jim Dubya wrote:

> What has happened to this newsgroup in the past several days? It is flooded
> with Spam. Was this causes by the moron that is stalking Starlord? What can
> be done to get rid of this idiot?

Turn three times and pronouce bvkuputcknniimuuwovkanaeidofo.

Date: 15 Aug 2007 17:40:17
From: RMOLLISE
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

On Aug 15, 6:19 pm, "Jan Owen" <janow...@cox.net > wrote:
> "Richard F.L.R.Snashall" <rf...@notnotrcn.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ecmdnZ4L6bnh4l7bnZ2dnUVZ_vPinZ2d@rcn.net...
>
> > Fred Scharmann wrote:
>
> >> I assume this newsgroup is not moderated. That's too bad.
>
> > Yes, we know who stands to gain from these attacks.
>
> Yes.
>
> NOT moderated is a GOOD thing...
>
> All the moderated newsgroups and OTHER moderated groups that I belong to
> have a paucity of expertise, and a lack of guts to let folks say what they
> THINK... They seem to be focused on no one being upset at anything someone
> else says... And that often comes at the expense of LEARINING EXPERIENCES
> that cannot be FOUND with strict censorship... Well, it CAN be found on
> SAA... So, sorry about that Cloudy Nights, and Yahoo Groups, and even (on
> occasion, but refreshingly, MUCH less often) Astromart Forums...
>
> Usenet can be uncomfortable for the Politically Correct - inclined much of
> the time, but if you're looking for real data, best come to SAA...
>
> The others are second best...
>
> --
> Jan Owen
>
> To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
> Latitude: 33.6
> Longitude: -112.3http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21

I don't know which moderated groups you belong to, but that is not the
case with those I've used. Which doesn't mean s.a.a. doesn't still
have a place in the world.

Date: 15 Aug 2007 17:52:25
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Easy, Rod...

What I've said COULD include ones you OWN... They're OK, but not SAA (if
you look, you'll see I've been a member for some time, so I'm not a newbie,
or blowing smoke)...

--
Jan Owen

To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3
http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21
"RMOLLISE" <rmollise@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:1187224817.962922.34420@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 15, 6:19 pm, "Jan Owen" <janow...@cox.net> wrote:
>> "Richard F.L.R.Snashall" <rf...@notnotrcn.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ecmdnZ4L6bnh4l7bnZ2dnUVZ_vPinZ2d@rcn.net...
>>
>> > Fred Scharmann wrote:
>>
>> >> I assume this newsgroup is not moderated. That's too bad.
>>
>> > Yes, we know who stands to gain from these attacks.
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> NOT moderated is a GOOD thing...
>>
>> All the moderated newsgroups and OTHER moderated groups that I belong to
>> have a paucity of expertise, and a lack of guts to let folks say what
>> they
>> THINK... They seem to be focused on no one being upset at anything
>> someone
>> else says... And that often comes at the expense of LEARINING
>> EXPERIENCES
>> that cannot be FOUND with strict censorship... Well, it CAN be found on
>> SAA... So, sorry about that Cloudy Nights, and Yahoo Groups, and even
>> (on
>> occasion, but refreshingly, MUCH less often) Astromart Forums...
>>
>> Usenet can be uncomfortable for the Politically Correct - inclined much
>> of
>> the time, but if you're looking for real data, best come to SAA...
>>
>> The others are second best...
>>
>> --
>> Jan Owen
>>
>> To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail
>> address...
>> Latitude: 33.6
>> Longitude: -112.3http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21
>
> I don't know which moderated groups you belong to, but that is not the
> case with those I've used. Which doesn't mean s.a.a. doesn't still
> have a place in the world.
>

Date: 15 Aug 2007 18:15:37
From: Fred Scharmann
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

I have no idea who is causing the problem, but if I did, I would hurt the
person or at least kill his computer. This is the same type of sick
individual the goes around and "keys" cars. They are sick SOB's.

I assume this newsgroup is not moderated. That's too bad.

Date: 15 Aug 2007 18:34:31
From: Richard F.L.R.Snashall
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Fred Scharmann wrote:

> I assume this newsgroup is not moderated. That's too bad.

Yes, we know who stands to gain from these attacks.

Date: 16 Aug 2007 07:28:51
From:
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Richard F.L.R.Snashall wrote:
>
>
>Fred Scharmann wrote:
>
>> I assume this newsgroup is not moderated. That's too bad.
>
>Yes, we know who stands to gain from these attacks.

hundreds of groups with topics from linux to hockey to
quakerism are being attacked the same way. The odds that
the attacker is from here are slim.

Date: 16 Aug 2007 00:35:19
From: Yepper
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

"Richard F.L.R.Snashall" wrote:

> Fred Scharmann wrote:
>
> > I assume this newsgroup is not moderated. That's too bad.
>
> Yes, we know who stands to gain from these attacks.

damn tootin.

Date: 15 Aug 2007 16:19:19
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

"Richard F.L.R.Snashall" <rflrs@notnotrcn.com > wrote in message
news:ecmdnZ4L6bnh4l7bnZ2dnUVZ_vPinZ2d@rcn.net...
> Fred Scharmann wrote:
>
>> I assume this newsgroup is not moderated. That's too bad.
>
> Yes, we know who stands to gain from these attacks.

Yes.

NOT moderated is a GOOD thing...

All the moderated newsgroups and OTHER moderated groups that I belong to
have a paucity of expertise, and a lack of guts to let folks say what they
THINK... They seem to be focused on no one being upset at anything someone
else says... And that often comes at the expense of LEARINING EXPERIENCES
that cannot be FOUND with strict censorship... Well, it CAN be found on
SAA... So, sorry about that Cloudy Nights, and Yahoo Groups, and even (on
occasion, but refreshingly, MUCH less often) Astromart Forums...

Usenet can be uncomfortable for the Politically Correct - inclined much of
the time, but if you're looking for real data, best come to SAA...

The others are second best...

--
Jan Owen

To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3
http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21

Date: 15 Aug 2007 20:54:33
From: Michael Sisson
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

In article <JSLwi.26909$Mu5.15949@newsfe15.phx >, janowen1@cox.net
says...
>
>
> Usenet can be uncomfortable for the Politically Correct - inclined much of
> the time, but if you're looking for real data, best come to SAA...
>
> The others are second best...
>
>

I *used* to read each and every post in the newsgroups I frequented.

After years and years on Usenet, I am a pretty good at just looking at
the subject and knowing what is going to happen in the thread. I am
pretty good at pounding the 'I' key (Ignore Thread - Gravity) and
snipping the thread in the bud. I am not shy in settin up killfiles. I
rarely have any inclination to let anyone know I have killfiled them.

The traffic here is not what it once was, but the freedom I have and the
speed that it is realized, is far better than any web forum I visit (I
use web forums a lot too, and am quite familiar with both types of
communication.)

Usenet is just *here*. Web forums have to be paid for by some guy that
might miss a couple payments and bam - mad scramble to find out where
all of the userbase made off too.

Usenet rules!

MRSisson
--
LOAD "GPL",8

SEARCHING FOR GPL
LOADING
READY.
RUN

Date: 15 Aug 2007 23:32:21
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: Re: What Happenned to this Newsgroup?

Jan Owen wrote:
> "Richard F.L.R.Snashall" <rflrs@notnotrcn.com> wrote in message
> news:ecmdnZ4L6bnh4l7bnZ2dnUVZ_vPinZ2d@rcn.net...
>> Fred Scharmann wrote:
>>
>>> I assume this newsgroup is not moderated. That's too bad.
>> Yes, we know who stands to gain from these attacks.
>
> Yes.
>
> NOT moderated is a GOOD thing...
>
> All the moderated newsgroups and OTHER moderated groups that I belong to
> have a paucity of expertise, and a lack of guts to let folks say what they
> THINK... They seem to be focused on no one being upset at anything someone
> else says... And that often comes at the expense of LEARINING EXPERIENCES
> that cannot be FOUND with strict censorship... Well, it CAN be found on
> SAA... So, sorry about that Cloudy Nights, and Yahoo Groups, and even (on
> occasion, but refreshingly, MUCH less often) Astromart Forums...
>
> Usenet can be uncomfortable for the Politically Correct - inclined much of
> the time, but if you're looking for real data, best come to SAA...
>
> The others are second best...
>

I'll second that, Jan!
-Sam