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Date: 25 May 2007 21:03:54
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: The Ions are Coming!
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The Ions are Coming!
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
May 25, 2007: A scientist using the Solar and Heliospheric
Observatory (SOHO) has found a way to forecast solar radiation
storms. The new method offers as much as one hour advance warning,
giving astronauts time to seek shelter and ground controllers time to
safeguard their satellites when a storm is approaching.
"Solar radiation storms are notoriously difficult to predict--they
often take us by surprise," says physicist Arik Posner who developed
the technique. "But now we've found a way to anticipate these
events."
Posner is a member of the research staff of the Southwest Research
Institute in San Antonio, Texas; he also works at NASA Headquarters
in Washington, DC. His study, Up to one-Hour Forecasting of Radiation
Hazards from Solar Energetic Ion Events, appears in the journal Space
Weather.
Solar radiation storms are swarms of electrons, protons and heavy
ions accelerated to high speed by explosions on the sun. Here on
Earth we are protected from these particles by our planet's
atmosphere and magnetic field. Astronauts in Earth orbit are fairly
safe, too; Earth's magnetic field extends out far enough to shield
them. The danger begins when astronauts leave this protective cocoon.
The Moon and Mars, for instance, have no global magnetic fields, and
"astronauts working on the surface of those worlds could be at risk,"
says Posner.
A one hour warning would reduce the odds of an astronaut being caught
in a solar storm outside of a lunar habitat, where astronauts are
most vulnerable," notes Francis Cucinotta, chief scientist for NASA's
Space Radiation Program.
Spacecraft and satellites would also benefit. Subatomic particles
striking CPUs and other electronics can cause onboard computers to
suddenly reboot or issue nonsense commands. If, say, a satellite
operator knows that a storm is coming, he can put his craft in a
protective "safe mode" until the storm passes.
The type of particle most feared by astronaut safety experts is the
ion, that is, an atom which has lost one or more of its
charge-balancing electrons. "Energetic ions can damage tissue and
break strands of DNA, causing health problems ranging from nausea to
cataracts to cancer," says Cucinotta.
See: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
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Date: 04 Jun 2007 09:47:22
From:
Subject: Re: The Ions are Coming!
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On May 29, 12:13 pm, Bruce Scott TOK <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-
Header@[127.1] > wrote:
> Sam W relayed a NASA piece on a method to detect solar ion storm events
> one hour before the ions reach Earth...
>
> In all that PR release, nothing about the basic idea of what they detect
> one hour before the ions...
>
> --
> ciao,
> Bruce
>
> drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
Bruce,
That's right. The reason is: the article citation was not complete. To
be fully informed please follow the link
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
or download the article at
http://www.agu.org/journals/sw/
ap
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Date: 29 May 2007 18:13:05
From: Bruce Scott TOK
Subject: Re: The Ions are Coming!
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Sam W relayed a NASA piece on a method to detect solar ion storm events
one hour before the ions reach Earth...
In all that PR release, nothing about the basic idea of what they detect
one hour before the ions...
--
ciao,
Bruce
drift wave turbulence: http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/
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Date: 26 May 2007 06:58:44
From: Y.Porat
Subject: Re: The Ions are Coming!
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On May 26, 11:47 am, Eric Gisse <jowr...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 26, 1:35 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 26, 12:03 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> > > The Ions are Coming!
> > > http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
>
> > > May 25, 2007: A scientist using the Solar and Heliospheric
> > > Observatory (SOHO) has found a way to forecast solar radiation
> > > storms. The new method offers as much as one hour advance warning,
> > > giving astronauts time to seek shelter and ground controllers time to
> > > safeguard their satellites when a storm is approaching.
>
> > > "Solar radiation storms are notoriously difficult to predict--they
> > > often take us by surprise," says physicist Arik Posner who developed
> > > the technique. "But now we've found a way to anticipate these
> > > events."
>
> > > Posner is a member of the research staff of the Southwest Research
> > > Institute in San Antonio, Texas; he also works at NASA Headquarters
> > > in Washington, DC. His study, Up to one-Hour Forecasting of Radiation
> > > Hazards from Solar Energetic Ion Events, appears in the journal Space
> > > Weather.
>
> > > Solar radiation storms are swarms of electrons, protons and heavy
> > > ions accelerated to high speed by explosions on the sun. Here on
> > > Earth we are protected from these particles by our planet's
> > > atmosphere and magnetic field. Astronauts in Earth orbit are fairly
> > > safe, too; Earth's magnetic field extends out far enough to shield
> > > them. The danger begins when astronauts leave this protective cocoon.
> > > The Moon and Mars, for instance, have no global magnetic fields, and
> > > "astronauts working on the surface of those worlds could be at risk,"
> > > says Posner.
>
> > > A one hour warning would reduce the odds of an astronaut being caught
> > > in a solar storm outside of a lunar habitat, where astronauts are
> > > most vulnerable," notes Francis Cucinotta, chief scientist for NASA's
> > > Space Radiation Program.
>
> > > Spacecraft and satellites would also benefit. Subatomic particles
> > > striking CPUs and other electronics can cause onboard computers to
> > > suddenly reboot or issue nonsense commands. If, say, a satellite
> > > operator knows that a storm is coming, he can put his craft in a
> > > protective "safe mode" until the storm passes.
>
> > > The type of particle most feared by astronaut safety experts is the
> > > ion, that is, an atom which has lost one or more of its
> > > charge-balancing electrons. "Energetic ions can damage tissue and
> > > break strands of DNA, causing health problems ranging from nausea to
> > > cataracts to cancer," says Cucinotta.
>
> > > See:http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
>
> > --------------
> > Mr Wormley
>
> > and thought once that
> > GR i smuch more significant to GPS than solar bursts (:-)
> > maye be even an assertive proud
> > parrot can soemtimes learn something new ....
> > (even from little old crackpots ....(:-))
>
> > Y.Porat
> > --------------
>
> Stooopid Porat, solar flares are a dynamical effect that is completely
> independent of the kinematical effect that GR models.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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INBECIL
i was talking about the envirinmental effecte
on GPS
thst are* much more influencial **than GR
it seesm that you are
a sore learner beyond your parrotongs
Y.P
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Date: 26 May 2007 01:47:36
From: Eric Gisse
Subject: Re: The Ions are Coming!
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On May 26, 1:35 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...@gmail.com > wrote:
> On May 26, 12:03 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The Ions are Coming!
> > http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
>
> > May 25, 2007: A scientist using the Solar and Heliospheric
> > Observatory (SOHO) has found a way to forecast solar radiation
> > storms. The new method offers as much as one hour advance warning,
> > giving astronauts time to seek shelter and ground controllers time to
> > safeguard their satellites when a storm is approaching.
>
> > "Solar radiation storms are notoriously difficult to predict--they
> > often take us by surprise," says physicist Arik Posner who developed
> > the technique. "But now we've found a way to anticipate these
> > events."
>
> > Posner is a member of the research staff of the Southwest Research
> > Institute in San Antonio, Texas; he also works at NASA Headquarters
> > in Washington, DC. His study, Up to one-Hour Forecasting of Radiation
> > Hazards from Solar Energetic Ion Events, appears in the journal Space
> > Weather.
>
> > Solar radiation storms are swarms of electrons, protons and heavy
> > ions accelerated to high speed by explosions on the sun. Here on
> > Earth we are protected from these particles by our planet's
> > atmosphere and magnetic field. Astronauts in Earth orbit are fairly
> > safe, too; Earth's magnetic field extends out far enough to shield
> > them. The danger begins when astronauts leave this protective cocoon.
> > The Moon and Mars, for instance, have no global magnetic fields, and
> > "astronauts working on the surface of those worlds could be at risk,"
> > says Posner.
>
> > A one hour warning would reduce the odds of an astronaut being caught
> > in a solar storm outside of a lunar habitat, where astronauts are
> > most vulnerable," notes Francis Cucinotta, chief scientist for NASA's
> > Space Radiation Program.
>
> > Spacecraft and satellites would also benefit. Subatomic particles
> > striking CPUs and other electronics can cause onboard computers to
> > suddenly reboot or issue nonsense commands. If, say, a satellite
> > operator knows that a storm is coming, he can put his craft in a
> > protective "safe mode" until the storm passes.
>
> > The type of particle most feared by astronaut safety experts is the
> > ion, that is, an atom which has lost one or more of its
> > charge-balancing electrons. "Energetic ions can damage tissue and
> > break strands of DNA, causing health problems ranging from nausea to
> > cataracts to cancer," says Cucinotta.
>
> > See:http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
>
> --------------
> Mr Wormley
>
> and thought once that
> GR i smuch more significant to GPS than solar bursts (:-)
> maye be even an assertive proud
> parrot can soemtimes learn something new ....
> (even from little old crackpots ....(:-))
>
> Y.Porat
> --------------
Stooopid Porat, solar flares are a dynamical effect that is completely
independent of the kinematical effect that GR models.
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Date: 26 May 2007 01:35:06
From: Y.Porat
Subject: Re: The Ions are Coming!
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On May 26, 12:03 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...@mchsi.com > wrote:
> The Ions are Coming!
> http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
>
> May 25, 2007: A scientist using the Solar and Heliospheric
> Observatory (SOHO) has found a way to forecast solar radiation
> storms. The new method offers as much as one hour advance warning,
> giving astronauts time to seek shelter and ground controllers time to
> safeguard their satellites when a storm is approaching.
>
> "Solar radiation storms are notoriously difficult to predict--they
> often take us by surprise," says physicist Arik Posner who developed
> the technique. "But now we've found a way to anticipate these
> events."
>
> Posner is a member of the research staff of the Southwest Research
> Institute in San Antonio, Texas; he also works at NASA Headquarters
> in Washington, DC. His study, Up to one-Hour Forecasting of Radiation
> Hazards from Solar Energetic Ion Events, appears in the journal Space
> Weather.
>
> Solar radiation storms are swarms of electrons, protons and heavy
> ions accelerated to high speed by explosions on the sun. Here on
> Earth we are protected from these particles by our planet's
> atmosphere and magnetic field. Astronauts in Earth orbit are fairly
> safe, too; Earth's magnetic field extends out far enough to shield
> them. The danger begins when astronauts leave this protective cocoon.
> The Moon and Mars, for instance, have no global magnetic fields, and
> "astronauts working on the surface of those worlds could be at risk,"
> says Posner.
>
> A one hour warning would reduce the odds of an astronaut being caught
> in a solar storm outside of a lunar habitat, where astronauts are
> most vulnerable," notes Francis Cucinotta, chief scientist for NASA's
> Space Radiation Program.
>
> Spacecraft and satellites would also benefit. Subatomic particles
> striking CPUs and other electronics can cause onboard computers to
> suddenly reboot or issue nonsense commands. If, say, a satellite
> operator knows that a storm is coming, he can put his craft in a
> protective "safe mode" until the storm passes.
>
> The type of particle most feared by astronaut safety experts is the
> ion, that is, an atom which has lost one or more of its
> charge-balancing electrons. "Energetic ions can damage tissue and
> break strands of DNA, causing health problems ranging from nausea to
> cataracts to cancer," says Cucinotta.
>
> See:http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
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Mr Wormley
and thought once that
GR i smuch more significant to GPS than solar bursts (:-)
maye be even an assertive proud
parrot can soemtimes learn something new ....
(even from little old crackpots ....(:-))
Y.Porat
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Date: 26 May 2007 08:01:41
From: TMA
Subject: Re: The Ions are Coming!
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I want ALiens not ions!!
>
> See: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
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Date: 26 May 2007 00:20:54
From: harry
Subject: Re: The Ions are Coming!
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In spite of this invisible crap, we still need 50 good volunteers
to go to Mars and hang out for a while,
look at the rocks and so on, like being at the beach
except there is no water, and no air.
Send your info to = > anotherdingbat@nasa.mars.gov
"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@mchsi.com > wrote in message
news:46574F3A.7090504@mchsi.com...
> The Ions are Coming!
> http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
>
> May 25, 2007: A scientist using the Solar and Heliospheric
> Observatory (SOHO) has found a way to forecast solar radiation
> storms. The new method offers as much as one hour advance warning,
> giving astronauts time to seek shelter and ground controllers time to
> safeguard their satellites when a storm is approaching.
>
> "Solar radiation storms are notoriously difficult to predict--they
> often take us by surprise," says physicist Arik Posner who developed
> the technique. "But now we've found a way to anticipate these
> events."
>
> Posner is a member of the research staff of the Southwest Research
> Institute in San Antonio, Texas; he also works at NASA Headquarters
> in Washington, DC. His study, Up to one-Hour Forecasting of Radiation
> Hazards from Solar Energetic Ion Events, appears in the journal Space
> Weather.
>
> Solar radiation storms are swarms of electrons, protons and heavy
> ions accelerated to high speed by explosions on the sun. Here on
> Earth we are protected from these particles by our planet's
> atmosphere and magnetic field. Astronauts in Earth orbit are fairly
> safe, too; Earth's magnetic field extends out far enough to shield
> them. The danger begins when astronauts leave this protective cocoon.
> The Moon and Mars, for instance, have no global magnetic fields, and
> "astronauts working on the surface of those worlds could be at risk,"
> says Posner.
>
> A one hour warning would reduce the odds of an astronaut being caught
> in a solar storm outside of a lunar habitat, where astronauts are
> most vulnerable," notes Francis Cucinotta, chief scientist for NASA's
> Space Radiation Program.
>
> Spacecraft and satellites would also benefit. Subatomic particles
> striking CPUs and other electronics can cause onboard computers to
> suddenly reboot or issue nonsense commands. If, say, a satellite
> operator knows that a storm is coming, he can put his craft in a
> protective "safe mode" until the storm passes.
>
> The type of particle most feared by astronaut safety experts is the
> ion, that is, an atom which has lost one or more of its
> charge-balancing electrons. "Energetic ions can damage tissue and
> break strands of DNA, causing health problems ranging from nausea to
> cataracts to cancer," says Cucinotta.
>
> See: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/25may_costep.htm?list89139
>
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