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Date: 14 Jul 2007 15:37:17
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Subject: Starry Night Pro and Current Comets
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I tried to track down a comet I just heard about (Comet C/2006 VZ13
Linear) in Starry Night Pro, v.4.5.2, but it didn't seem to have it in
its database. That's despite using the "Update Comets/Asteroids/
Satellites" command. I've noticed this before with Starry Night Pro,
where it simply doesn't seem to be up to date with the current sky,
particularly pertaining to comets. Anyone else have this experience?
Am I missing some kind of update procedure, or are the software
authors simply not keeping it as current as it should be? Is there a
better product for the Mac?
Thanks.
-Fleemo
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 01:25:10
From: Joe S.
Subject: Re: Starry Night Pro and Current Comets
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<fleemo17@comcast.net > wrote in message
news:1184452637.933197.205320@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>I tried to track down a comet I just heard about (Comet C/2006 VZ13
> Linear) in Starry Night Pro, v.4.5.2, but it didn't seem to have it in
> its database. That's despite using the "Update Comets/Asteroids/
> Satellites" command. I've noticed this before with Starry Night Pro,
> where it simply doesn't seem to be up to date with the current sky,
> particularly pertaining to comets. Anyone else have this experience?
> Am I missing some kind of update procedure, or are the software
> authors simply not keeping it as current as it should be? Is there a
> better product for the Mac?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Fleemo
>
I had a similar problem with Starry Night Pro a year or so ago -- and -- I
can't get Comet C/2006 VZ13 Linear in my updates. I forget which comet it
was but no matter how many updates I ran, the comet I wanted would not show
up. I e-mailed them and in a day or so they replied that the next update
would contain the comet and, sure enough, a day later I updated and there it
was.
Maybe we need to e-mail them and ask them to include it.
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 10:10:25
From: Stan Jensen
Subject: Re: Starry Night Pro and Current Comets
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I had no problem with that comet in SNP. It came down with the
downloads, and was right there. In fact, I used SNP to drive my scope
right to the comet.
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Date: 15 Jul 2007 15:58:23
From: Joe S.
Subject: Re: Starry Night Pro and Current Comets
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"Stan Jensen" <spam@wonderful.spam > wrote in message
news:skak93pct4l2g438kve9mr9hf0jce67b9g@4ax.com...
>I had no problem with that comet in SNP. It came down with the
> downloads, and was right there. In fact, I used SNP to drive my scope
> right to the comet.
Hmmm. Thanks -- I haven't updated for a couple of weeks -- I'll see what
shows up.
I wish I could get SNP to drive my Dob but it just won't do it.
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Date: 14 Jul 2007 15:48:47
From: canopus56
Subject: Re: Starry Night Pro and Current Comets
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On Jul 14, 4:37 pm, fleem...@comcast.net wrote:
> I tried to track down a comet I just heard about (Comet C/2006 VZ13
> Linear) in Starry Night Pro, v.4.5.2, but it didn't seem to have it in
> its database. That's despite using the "Update Comets/Asteroids/
> Satellites" command. I've noticed this before with Starry Night Pro,
> where it simply doesn't seem to be up to date with the current sky,
> particularly pertaining to comets. Anyone else have this experience?
> Am I missing some kind of update procedure, or are the software
> authors simply not keeping it as current as it should be? Is there a
> better product for the Mac? Thanks. -Fleemo
I do not own Starry Night Pro, but Cartes du Ciel shows a similar
anomalous behavior. There was an additional setting that restricted
the number of download lines to 1000 comets. There are now so many
known comets in the MPC datafiles, that to get the recently added
comets you have to download more than 1000 lines. In Cartes du Ciel,
I had to reset my number of download lines to 2000 or 3000. Then the
program captures the most recent comets.
Perhaps there is a similar setting in Starry Night Pro?
- Canopus56
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 11:11:34
From: Robert Sheaffer
Subject: Re: Starry Night Pro and Current Comets
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The easiest way to find a comet or asteroid is to use RTGUI, the free
Real-Time Astronomy Software for Windows. Instead of trying to download
the parameters for hundreds or thousands of objects, it downloads
positions for one object at a time. You tell it what object you want to
observe, it goes and gets the positions for that object (and only that
one). Let's face it, most amateurs only see two or three comets a year
(if even that many). Having to deal with hundreds or thousands of
asteroids and comets you'll never see is like looking for a needle in a
haystack.
Just click on the "Get Comet/Asteroid" button, then enter the name
C/2006 VZ13 , and click "OK". You'll get hourly positions for that
object for the next 60 days. If you have a Goto scope, just click on the
"Goto" button to be taken right there. If you have Cartes du Ciel
(Skycharts) installed, it'll show you just where the object is.
Make sure to download the latest RTGUI version (8.1) so you'll have
these features.
http://www.rtgui.com
Robert Sheaffer
canopus56 wrote:
> On Jul 14, 4:37 pm, fleem...@comcast.net wrote:
> > I tried to track down a comet I just heard about (Comet C/2006 VZ13
> > Linear) in Starry Night Pro, v.4.5.2, but it didn't seem to have it in
> > its database. That's despite using the "Update Comets/Asteroids/
> > Satellites" command. I've noticed this before with Starry Night Pro,
> > where it simply doesn't seem to be up to date with the current sky,
> > particularly pertaining to comets. Anyone else have this experience?
> > Am I missing some kind of update procedure, or are the software
> > authors simply not keeping it as current as it should be? Is there a
> > better product for the Mac? Thanks. -Fleemo
>
> I do not own Starry Night Pro, but Cartes du Ciel shows a similar
> anomalous behavior. There was an additional setting that restricted
> the number of download lines to 1000 comets. There are now so many
> known comets in the MPC datafiles, that to get the recently added
> comets you have to download more than 1000 lines. In Cartes du Ciel,
> I had to reset my number of download lines to 2000 or 3000. Then the
> program captures the most recent comets.
>
> Perhaps there is a similar setting in Starry Night Pro?
>
> - Canopus56
>
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