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Date: 13 Aug 2007 11:34:20
From: Florian
Subject: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

Until or unless this sporge flood ends there is no point in coming to =
s.a.a anymore. What people gain by floods like this is beyond me. Take =
care everyone. And may the flooders die painful deaths.

.Florian

Date: 15 Aug 2007 23:32:30
From: Bill Hudson
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

On Aug 16, 12:09 am, "Jim Dubya" <jimdu...@nospam.com > wrote:
> I wonder if the same putz that is terrorizing Starlord is flooding this
> newsgroup? Isn't it possible to get his IP address and report him to his
> ISP. He should be tared and feathered and castrated. One second thought,
> that would be too good for him.
>
[snip]

Agreed, that would be too good. How about you castrate him *after*
tarring and feathering his tender bits. No point in wasting boiling
tar after all.

Date: 14 Aug 2007 18:05:56
From: Dr J R Stockton
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

In sci.astro.amateur message <10399$46c0c870$4212a552$15419@TULAROSA.NET
>, Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:09:06, Greg Crinklaw
<theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com > posted:
>
>Some people lightly suggest filtering on cross posts, but my favorite
>newsreader can't do that (yet). I've tried the newsreaders that can
>and I didn't like them much. Oh well.

For the end user of a system which holds news at the user machine (I
suspect Thunderbird of resembling Turnpike in that), such floods have
(at least) three ways of being annoying :-
#1 communications load
#2 local disc space load
#3 personal inconvenience.

Only the news supplier or the newsreader authors can deal with #1
properly. Generally, I suspect #2 is not important.

If your newsreader stores news on your disc before you read the stuff,
and does so in a plain-text format, might it be possible for an ordinary
Software Developer to write a program, to be used after collection but
before perusal, that would identify the unwanted articles and either
mark them as read or remove them entirely, thus dealing with #3 & maybe
#2?

If the newsreader has a mode where it collects headers but not bodies,
it might be possible to set a group to that mode, and with a program to
add to the wanted-bodies list just those in the group which were not
detected as abnormal.

--
(c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. REPLYyyww merlyn demon co uk Turnpike 6.05.
Web <URL:http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/http/tsfaq.html > -> Timo Salmi: Usenet Q&A.
Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/news-use.htm > : about usage of News.
No Encoding. Quotes precede replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Mail no News.

Date: 13 Aug 2007 22:52:22
From: Ben
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

mmmmm....

I was just thinking about countering this onslaught with one of
my own. If I started posting up planets, asteroids, comets
etc. it would at least push the spammers off the front page
of the newsreader.

Of course that would make a mess out of someone's email
reader but clicclicclic >DELETE ALL fixes that.

It would provide some form of resistance and besides, it's
too hot to do any effective observing here.

Ben

Date: 13 Aug 2007 23:48:39
From: KLM
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Florian wrote:

> Until or unless this sporge flood ends there is no point in coming to s.a.a anymore. What people gain by floods like this is beyond me. Take care everyone. And may the flooders die painful deaths.
>
> .Florian

Date: 14 Aug 2007 02:18:21
From: Davoud
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

Florian wrote:

> Until or unless this sporge flood ends there is no point in coming to s.a.a
> anymore. What people gain by floods like this is beyond me. Take care
> everyone. And may the flooders die painful deaths.

I've been away and Verizon won't let me access their Usenet service
from foreign ISP's. I just tuned in a few minutes ago 22:00 edt Monday
and I was a bit taken aback by all of that junk, but it took about 30
seconds for me to realize that I had only to filter out the other
newsgroup and that seems to have fixed the problem.

Davoud

--
usenet *at* davidillig dawt com

Date: 13 Aug 2007 17:23:39
From: TBerk
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

Well, things like this do make it difficult on some of us who borrow
another's computer from time to time.

In another NG I found myself locked out because of 'net nanny' type
software meant to shield people from smut. (I am self filtering but I
digress...).

It means someone on the receiving end needs to do some work, times how
many hundreds and thousands of individual people out here. wtf?

TBerk

Date: 13 Aug 2007 19:36:39
From: Johnny Borborigmi
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

On 2007-08-13 14:34:20 -0400, "Florian" <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > said:

> Until or unless this sporge flood ends there is no point in coming to
> s.a.a anymore. What people gain by floods like this is beyond me. Take
> care everyone. And may the flooders die painful deaths.
>
> .Florian

Sad, you let them win. Shame......

Date: 13 Aug 2007 16:53:14
From: Florian
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

> Sad, you let them win. Shame......

F*ck you. There is no shame in my comment that s.a.a was unusable with =
the the massive message flood that's going on. Thanks to some of the =
other suggestions on this thread that have allowed me to read s.a.a =
again.=20

.Florian

Date: 13 Aug 2007 22:28:58
From: L.A.T.
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

"Florian" <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in message
news:46c0a436$0$8938$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
And may the flooders die painful deaths.

.Florian

I, for one, would pay to watch that.

Date: 13 Aug 2007 20:05:32
From:
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

On Aug 13, 11:59 am, br...@isi.edu wrote:

> But I haven't found anything else that will take the place of SAA

I felt the same way about losing some of my upper teeth, but now I
have a partial denture that looks, feels, and works great! ;-)

--
Martin R. Howell
Moderated sci.astro.amateur
www.moderatedsciastroamateur.org

Date: 13 Aug 2007 11:59:16
From:
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

Florian wrote:
> Until or unless this sporge flood ends there is no point in coming to s.a.a anymore.
> What people gain by floods like this is beyond me. Take care everyone. And may
> the flooders die painful deaths.

It is painful, and I agree that this latest spate of bizarre postings
is strange. (By the way, these posts read much more like an AI bot
posting than Gerald's do.)

But I haven't found anything else that will take the place of SAA, so
I'm staying here until there's really no one else to talk to. That
still
isn't the case yet, though of course lots of people have left,
lamentably.

--
Brian Tung <brian@isi.edu >
The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/
Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/
The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/
My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.html

Date: 13 Aug 2007 15:09:06
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

brian@isi.edu wrote:
> Florian wrote:
>> Until or unless this sporge flood ends there is no point in coming to s.a.a anymore.
>> What people gain by floods like this is beyond me. Take care everyone. And may
>> the flooders die painful deaths.
>
> It is painful, and I agree that this latest spate of bizarre postings
> is strange. (By the way, these posts read much more like an AI bot
> posting than Gerald's do.)

Google "sporge flood." This isn't just something aimed at SAA.
Apparently the source is cleverly distributed in some way like a virus,
so there isn't any simply way for it to be blocked at the server level.
I found references to sporge floods on usenet clear back to 1999!
Funny I never heard of them before now.

Recently it always seems to start with a warning posted to the newsgroup
that a "sporge flood" is scheduled that takes the appearance of an
advertisement for supernews.

Some people lightly suggest filtering on cross posts, but my favorite
newsreader can't do that (yet). I've tried the newsreaders that can and
I didn't like them much. Oh well.

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com

To reply take out your eye

Date: 13 Aug 2007 16:02:46
From: Chris L Peterson
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:09:06 -0600, Greg Crinklaw
<theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com > wrote:

>Some people lightly suggest filtering on cross posts, but my favorite
>newsreader can't do that (yet). I've tried the newsreaders that can and
>I didn't like them much. Oh well.

Strangely, I'm not seeing any of it, and the only filters I have are
based on subject lines. This has happened at least two other times on
SAA in the last ten years or so, and I've always been inundated like
everyone else. Nothing has changed at my end. I access newsgroups
through an Earthlink server. All I can figure is that they have some
sort of effective filtering in place. I was concerned I might be missing
real content, but a few comparisons with Google Groups show that the
only thing being filtered is the sporge. Odd, but I'm not complaining.

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

Date: 13 Aug 2007 20:26:32
From: Tom Hise
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:02:46 -0600, Chris L Peterson
<clp@alumni.caltech.edu > wrote:

>On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:09:06 -0600, Greg Crinklaw
><theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote:
.
>
>Strangely, I'm not seeing any of it, and the only filters I have are
>based on subject lines.

Supernews has very good filtering for crap like this. I see very little of
it.

--
Tom Hise

Date: 15 Aug 2007 22:27:13
From: Jim Dubya
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

What is supernews. Please tell us.

"Tom Hise" <nc0o@yahoo.com > wrote in message
news:13c2165pqtf0mba@news.supernews.com...
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:02:46 -0600, Chris L Peterson
> <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:09:06 -0600, Greg Crinklaw
>><theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote:
> .
>>
>>Strangely, I'm not seeing any of it, and the only filters I have are
>>based on subject lines.
>
> Supernews has very good filtering for crap like this. I see very little
> of
> it.
>
>
> --
> Tom Hise
>
>

Date: 15 Aug 2007 22:39:09
From: Jim Dubya
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

Date: 15 Aug 2007 23:09:02
From: Jim Dubya
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

I wonder if the same putz that is terrorizing Starlord is flooding this
newsgroup? Isn't it possible to get his IP address and report him to his
ISP. He should be tared and feathered and castrated. One second thought,
that would be too good for him.

"Jim Dubya" <jimdubya@nospam.com > wrote in message
news:1qRwi.47513$xx1.28957@newsfe09.phx...
> What is supernews. Please tell us.
>
> "Tom Hise" <nc0o@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:13c2165pqtf0mba@news.supernews.com...
>> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:02:46 -0600, Chris L Peterson
>> <clp@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:09:06 -0600, Greg Crinklaw
>>><theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> .
>>>
>>>Strangely, I'm not seeing any of it, and the only filters I have are
>>>based on subject lines.
>>
>> Supernews has very good filtering for crap like this. I see very little
>> of
>> it.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tom Hise
>>
>>
>
>
>

Date: 13 Aug 2007 19:21:49
From: Esmail
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

Chris L Peterson wrote:
>
> Strangely, I'm not seeing any of it, and the only filters I have are
> based on subject lines. This has happened at least two other times on
> SAA in the last ten years or so, and I've always been inundated like
> everyone else. Nothing has changed at my end. I access newsgroups
> through an Earthlink server. All I can figure is that they have some
> sort of effective filtering in place.

Lucky you! .. This is the first time I've seen this sort of deluge.

Date: 13 Aug 2007 16:07:54
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:09:06 -0600, Greg Crinklaw
> <theskyhoundyoureye@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Some people lightly suggest filtering on cross posts, but my favorite
>> newsreader can't do that (yet). I've tried the newsreaders that can and
>> I didn't like them much. Oh well.
>
> Strangely, I'm not seeing any of it, and the only filters I have are
> based on subject lines. This has happened at least two other times on
> SAA in the last ten years or so, and I've always been inundated like
> everyone else. Nothing has changed at my end. I access newsgroups
> through an Earthlink server. All I can figure is that they have some
> sort of effective filtering in place. I was concerned I might be missing
> real content, but a few comparisons with Google Groups show that the
> only thing being filtered is the sporge. Odd, but I'm not complaining.

Come to think of it, the reason I probably haven't seen one of these
before is that I changed ISPs last summer. The old one had a much
better news server--it even filtered out most of mins posts! And I
never saw any real spam (like I do now). Maybe Earthink upgraded their
servers. Lucky dog. I have to delete about 50 of them every couple of
hours...

Greg

--
Greg Crinklaw
Astronomical Software Developer
Cloudcroft, New Mexico, USA (33N, 106W, 2700m)

SkyTools: http://www.skyhound.com/cs.html
Observing: http://www.skyhound.com/sh/skyhound.html
Comets: http://comets.skyhound.com

To reply take out your eye

Date: 13 Aug 2007 18:56:37
From: CeeBee
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

On 13 aug 2007 Florian wrote in sci.astro.amateur:

> Until or unless this sporge flood ends there is no point in coming to
> s.a.a anymore. What people gain by floods like this is beyond me. Take
> care everyone. And may the flooders die painful deaths.

All the junk is crossposted to another newsgroup. Simply filter on the
XREF header for that group and everything is gone.

--
CeeBee

Date: 14 Aug 2007 20:33:11
From: Andrew Smallshaw
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

On 2007-08-13, CeeBee <ceebee@novalid.mail > wrote:
> On 13 aug 2007 Florian wrote in sci.astro.amateur:
>
>> Until or unless this sporge flood ends there is no point in coming to
>> s.a.a anymore. What people gain by floods like this is beyond me. Take
>> care everyone. And may the flooders die painful deaths.
>
> All the junk is crossposted to another newsgroup. Simply filter on the
> XREF header for that group and everything is gone.

Out of interest, what group is that? When I loaded up slrn earlier
I noticed 1199 new messages. 900+ were killed before I saw them
so I have no idea. I do have filters in place to remove anything
that is crossposted to religious groups though.

--
Andrew Smallshaw
andrews@sdf.lonestar.org

Date: 15 Aug 2007 15:28:10
From: FUCK SPORGE
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

what newsreader do yo use?
I have outlook express but that doesn't allow filtering on crossposts etc..

Andre

> I noticed 1199 new messages. 900+ were killed before I saw them
> so I have no idea. I do have filters in place to remove anything
> that is crossposted to religious groups though.
>
> --
> Andrew Smallshaw
> andrews@sdf.lonestar.org

Date: 15 Aug 2007 16:28:38
From: Esmail
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

FUCK SPORGE wrote:
> what newsreader do yo use?
> I have outlook express but that doesn't allow filtering on crossposts etc..

Neither does Mozilla Thunderbird v 1.5 or 2.0 .. very disappointing. I can
only filter on From/Date/Subject and I haven't found an extension that allows
me to filter on other header items, though apparently you can for regular mail
(but not news).

Date: 15 Aug 2007 16:17:04
From: Ed Holden
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

"FECK SPORGE" <none@telenet.nope > wrote:

> what newsreader do yo use?
> I have outlook express but that doesn't allow filtering on crossposts etc..

Andre, it does. Try this:

1. Determine which of the crossposted groups are causing a problem
(e.g. sci.crypt) and subscribe to it (yes, I said subscribe to it.)

2. Then, using Tools > Message Rules > News... New
Create a new rule with:
Where message is on a specified newsgroup (e.g. sci.crypt)
- Delete it

Date: 15 Aug 2007 17:20:00
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

"Ed Holden" <ed@home.com > wrote in message
news:4GFwi.9795$mZ5.6242@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> "FECK SPORGE" <none@telenet.nope> wrote:
>
>> what newsreader do yo use?
>> I have outlook express but that doesn't allow filtering on crossposts
>> etc..
>
> Andre, it does. Try this:
>
> 1. Determine which of the crossposted groups are causing a problem
> (e.g. sci.crypt) and subscribe to it (yes, I said subscribe to it.)
>
> 2. Then, using Tools > Message Rules > News... New
> Create a new rule with:
> Where message is on a specified newsgroup (e.g. sci.crypt)
> - Delete it
>

Hi, Ed!!!

To reconfirm, this seems to be a very effective defense against this
problem...

And it even looks like it could serve as a second line of defense against
our friend DJM... I have him pretty well filtered at this point, but there
still remain some unplugged areas, and this may help there...

THANKS AGAIN!!!

--
Jan Owen

To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3
http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21

Date: 15 Aug 2007 15:19:35
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

"Ed Holden" <ed@home.com > wrote in message
news:4GFwi.9795$mZ5.6242@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> "FECK SPORGE" <none@telenet.nope> wrote:
>
>> what newsreader do yo use?
>> I have outlook express but that doesn't allow filtering on crossposts
>> etc..
>
> Andre, it does. Try this:
>
> 1. Determine which of the crossposted groups are causing a problem
> (e.g. sci.crypt) and subscribe to it (yes, I said subscribe to it.)
>
> 2. Then, using Tools > Message Rules > News... New
> Create a new rule with:
> Where message is on a specified newsgroup (e.g. sci.crypt)
> - Delete it
>

Yes. I'll second the motion...

I haven't had a single message come through from that mess since I simply
followed your instructions this morning... I've been pretty sure for
several hours, but didn't say anything (except offline to Howard Lester),
allowing more time to be SURE...

Not SURE yet, but as I said, PERFECT so far...

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
Jan Owen

To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3
http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21

Date: 15 Aug 2007 20:21:40
From: FUCK SPORGE
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

thanks!

Andre
Belgium

"Ed Holden" <ed@home.com > wrote in message
news:4GFwi.9795$mZ5.6242@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> "FECK SPORGE" <none@telenet.nope> wrote:
>
>> what newsreader do yo use?
>> I have outlook express but that doesn't allow filtering on crossposts
>> etc..
>
> Andre, it does. Try this:
>
> 1. Determine which of the crossposted groups are causing a problem
> (e.g. sci.crypt) and subscribe to it (yes, I said subscribe to it.)
>
> 2. Then, using Tools > Message Rules > News... New
> Create a new rule with:
> Where message is on a specified newsgroup (e.g. sci.crypt)
> - Delete it
>
>
>
>

Date: 15 Aug 2007 22:02:13
From: John Nichols
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

"FUCK SPORGE" <none@telenet.nope > wrote in message
news:ofJwi.54561$Ho5.1414365@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
> thanks!
>
>
> Andre
> Belgium
>
> "Ed Holden" <ed@home.com> wrote in message
> news:4GFwi.9795$mZ5.6242@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> "FECK SPORGE" <none@telenet.nope> wrote:
>>
>>> what newsreader do yo use?
>>> I have outlook express but that doesn't allow filtering on crossposts
>>> etc..
>>
>> Andre, it does. Try this:
>>
>> 1. Determine which of the crossposted groups are causing a problem
>> (e.g. sci.crypt) and subscribe to it (yes, I said subscribe to it.)
>>
>> 2. Then, using Tools > Message Rules > News... New
>> Create a new rule with:
>> Where message is on a specified newsgroup (e.g. sci.crypt)
>> - Delete it

So far, this is working. I'll keep my appendages crossed.

Date: 15 Aug 2007 16:11:01
From: Andrew Smallshaw
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

On 2007-08-15, FUCK SPORGE <none@telenet.nope > wrote:

>> I noticed 1199 new messages. 900+ were killed before I saw them
>> so I have no idea. I do have filters in place to remove anything
>> that is crossposted to religious groups though.
>
> what newsreader do yo use?
> I have outlook express but that doesn't allow filtering on crossposts etc..
>
> Andre

I use slrn, which is a fairly common Unix newsreader although I
believe there is a Windows version. How much you'll like it I
don't know as it does show its Unix heritage (character mode display,
not using the mouse etc). Take a look at it if you want at
http://www.slrn.org .

The neat thing is that it allows filtering of _any_ header - I have
filters against specific groups, specific subjects, specific words
in subjects (eg "homosexual"), anything from Google Groups (marked
as low priority rather than killed outright), or, as mentioned
here, crossposts to specific newsgroups. This is an extract from
my score file:

%BOS
[sci.astro.amateur]
Score: =-9999
Newsgroups:.*christian.*
%EOS

%BOS
[sci.astro.amateur]
Score: =-9999
Newsgroups:.*prophecy.*
%EOS

%BOS
[sci.astro.amateur]
Score: =-9999
Newsgroups:.*atheist.*
%EOS

%BOS
[sci.astro.amateur]
Newsgroups:.*nostradamus.*
%EOS

As you can see, I automatically kill anything where it is crossposted
to a group with christian, prophecy, atheist or nostradamus in the
newsgroup name. Makes s.a.a. a much nicer place, whether it be
due to sporge or simple trolling.

--
Andrew Smallshaw
andrews@sdf.lonestar.org

Date: 13 Aug 2007 17:20:49
From: Esmail
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

CeeBee wrote:
> On 13 aug 2007 Florian wrote in sci.astro.amateur:
>
>> Until or unless this sporge flood ends there is no point in coming to
>> s.a.a anymore. What people gain by floods like this is beyond me. Take
>> care everyone. And may the flooders die painful deaths.
>
>
> All the junk is crossposted to another newsgroup. Simply filter on the
> XREF header for that group and everything is gone.

good suggestion, I'm going to try that too. I'm not ready to
concede s.a.a. to the nutcases yet, so for the time being I'm
going to stick around too.

Date: 13 Aug 2007 15:58:28
From: Chris L Peterson
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:20:49 -0400, Esmail <ebonak_delme@hotmail.com >
wrote:

>good suggestion, I'm going to try that too. I'm not ready to
>concede s.a.a. to the nutcases yet, so for the time being I'm
>going to stick around too.

Just wait it out. It happens every few years, and normally goes away
after a few days.

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com

Date: 13 Aug 2007 17:31:11
From: Esmail
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

>> All the junk is crossposted to another newsgroup. Simply filter on the
>> XREF header for that group and everything is gone.
>
> good suggestion, I'm going to try that too. I'm not ready to
> concede s.a.a. to the nutcases yet, so for the time being I'm
> going to stick around too.

Hmm .. my news reader (Thunderbird) seems to allow filters only
based on three fields: From, Subject, Date .. not very fancy. I
just tried to see if there's an extension, but no joy (so far).

Don't feel like learning yet another newsreader ...

Date: 13 Aug 2007 15:56:43
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

Esmail wrote:
>>> All the junk is crossposted to another newsgroup. Simply filter on
>>> the XREF header for that group and everything is gone.
>>
>> good suggestion, I'm going to try that too. I'm not ready to
>> concede s.a.a. to the nutcases yet, so for the time being I'm
>> going to stick around too.
>
> Hmm .. my news reader (Thunderbird) seems to allow filters only
> based on three fields: From, Subject, Date .. not very fancy. I
> just tried to see if there's an extension, but no joy (so far).

They have a custom filter for email, so it would seem trivial to add a
custom filter to the newsreader portion. I just contacted them with this
suggestion. It's something I've wished for for quite awhile. Perhaps
if others did the same they might add the custom filter sooner rather
than later...

Suggestions can be left here:
http://hendrix.mozilla.org/

Greg

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Date: 13 Aug 2007 21:35:41
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

Date: 13 Aug 2007 12:46:46
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: No point in coming to s.a.a anymore

Florian wrote:
> Until or unless this sporge flood ends there is no point in coming to
> s.a.a anymore. What people gain by floods like this is beyond me.
> Take care everyone. And may the flooders die painful deaths.
>
> .Florian

I don't know--I hadn't really noticed much difference. ;-)

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