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Date: 18 Sep 2007 01:32:59
From: Florian
Subject: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
things for others?

All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...

°Florian





 
Date: 19 Sep 2007 00:45:39
From: City of Blood
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA


Florian wrote:

> I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
> flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
> think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
> things for others?
>
> All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...
>
> °Flo

It is hopeless. Anything that blocks 90% of reality is hopless.

SAA's gather around astronomy and miss the central fact that 99.9% of
existence is shere utter nothingness, SAA and SAAers included. SAAers
complicate it further by asserting: "I will block
the truth"! Interesting. SAAers call it: Identity. Good luck.

Adios.





  
Date: 19 Sep 2007 08:35:27
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
City of Blood wrote:
> Adios.

Unfortunately that's just another lie.


   
Date: 20 Sep 2007 04:12:29
From: Bonopopopo
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA


Greg Crinklaw wrote:

> City of Blood wrote:
> > Adios.
>
> Unfortunately that's just another lie.

I was gone the day I ventured into this shithole.





 
Date: 18 Sep 2007 23:03:25
From: Dr J R Stockton
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
In sci.astro.amateur message <fcocc901boa@news3.newsguy.com >, Tue, 18
Sep 2007 07:20:45, Joe S. <noone@nowhere.net > posted:
>
>If message body contains more than 30 lines, then, delete the message and
>stop processing more rules.
>

The message to which I am responding had 31 lines ...

--
(c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME.
Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/ > - FAQqish topics, acronyms & links;
Astro stuff via astron-1.htm, gravity0.htm ; quotings.htm, pascal.htm, etc.
No Encoding. Quotes before replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Don't Mail News.


  
Date: 18 Sep 2007 16:39:14
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
"Dr J R Stockton" <jrs@merlyn.demon.co.uk > wrote in message
news:0a6smQjtsE8GFwEL@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid...
> In sci.astro.amateur message <fcocc901boa@news3.newsguy.com>, Tue, 18
> Sep 2007 07:20:45, Joe S. <noone@nowhere.net> posted:
>>
>>If message body contains more than 30 lines, then, delete the message and
>>stop processing more rules.
>>
>
> The message to which I am responding had 31 lines ...
>
> --
> (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05
> MIME.
> Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQqish topics, acronyms &
> links;
> Astro stuff via astron-1.htm, gravity0.htm ; quotings.htm, pascal.htm,
> etc.
> No Encoding. Quotes before replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Don't Mail
> News.

There's no perfect number...

I've set my filters at 30 and at 50... Many of the sporge messages are
larger than 50 lines...

Of course, this has also been a report card on MY loquatiousness (as in, I
tend to TALK too much), and my own filters can trap MY messages between 30
and 50 lines, so I've become a leetle more lenient, in my own interests, and
I still seem to catch about the same number (and still DON'T catch quite a
few, but ALL of which are VERY easy to just delete. So no big deal either
way...

Whew!!!

Did THIS take 60 lines???
--
Jan Owen

To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3
http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21




 
Date: 18 Sep 2007 19:56:15
From: VicXnews
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Florian <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in
news:Xns99AEBCC454C4Estar6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128:

> I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
> flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
> think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
> things for others?
>
> All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...
>
> °Florian
>

Have tried f9 (xnews)custom filter,50 lines or more?


 
Date: 18 Sep 2007 13:40:07
From: G
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
looks fine to me. my newsgroup isp is blocking them. go ask yours to do the
same...

"Florian" <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in message
news:Xns99AEBCC454C4Estar6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128...
>I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
> flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
> think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
> things for others?
>
> All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...
>
> °Florian
>




  
Date: 19 Sep 2007 17:34:18
From: Esmail
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
G wrote:
> looks fine to me. my newsgroup isp is blocking them. go ask yours to do the
> same...

mine must be doing the same, I haven't seen the same huge deluge
from a few weeks back repeating itself now.


   
Date: 19 Sep 2007 14:51:26
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
"Esmail" <ebonak_delme@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:46f195da$0$26378$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>G wrote:
>> looks fine to me. my newsgroup isp is blocking them. go ask yours to do
>> the same...
>
> mine must be doing the same, I haven't seen the same huge deluge
> from a few weeks back repeating itself now.

Actually, I'd rather hear Marty's take on this, than mine...

HIS opinion always seems to have a much better *ring* to it than mine...

I think I need to move to Iowa...

--
Jan Owen

To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3
http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21




    
Date: 19 Sep 2007 18:46:42
From: Marty
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Jan Owen was saying
>Actually, I'd rather hear Marty's take on
> this, than mine...

>HIS opinion always seems to have a
> much better *ring* to it than mine...

Hmmm. Not sure what it's worth here... I'm a technological dinosaur
still picking away on my webbybox. NO filters, NO killfiles, etc. I
get this group absolutely RAW. I often have to scroll past hundreds of
crap posts to reach the good stuff. Still, in my opinion, SAA is the
best group on the internet. Good info, good people, even to the point
of looking out for each other. I have other hobbies, but astronomy is
what "matters," and SAA is the ONLY astronomy group I stop in on every
day. SAA has become part of my life.
>I think I need to move to Iowa...

Well, here's the next best thing... THE CORN CAM!
http://www.iowafarmertoday.com/corn_cam
Marty



     
Date: 20 Sep 2007 04:11:31
From: Bonopopopo
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA


Marty wrote:

> Jan Owen was saying
> >Actually, I'd rather hear Marty's take on
> > this, than mine...
>
> >HIS opinion always seems to have a
> > much better *ring* to it than mine...
>
> Hmmm. Not sure what it's worth here... I'm a technological dinosaur
> still picking away on my webbybox. NO filters, NO killfiles, etc. I
> get this group absolutely RAW. I often have to scroll past hundreds of
> crap posts to reach the good stuff. Still, in my opinion, SAA is the
> best group on the internet. Good info, good people, even to the point
> of looking out for each other. I have other hobbies, but astronomy is
> what "matters," and SAA is the ONLY astronomy group I stop in on every
> day. SAA has become part of my life.
> >I think I need to move to Iowa...
>
> Well, here's the next best thing... THE CORN CAM!
> http://www.iowafarmertoday.com/corn_cam
> Marty

Well you can come here, you would be welcome, and stand and
learn and watch the experts. All the experts on every subject have come
here, cuz there aint no room left in Heaven. Large donnations
are required - gear for the Iowa Astronomer Royals is expensive.
You might even get one of the experts to talk to you. Bring along
a psychiatrist and a lawyer.







     
Date: 19 Sep 2007 20:59:04
From: Brian Tung
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Marty wrote:
> Hmmm. Not sure what it's worth here... I'm a technological dinosaur
> still picking away on my webbybox. NO filters, NO killfiles, etc. I
> get this group absolutely RAW. I often have to scroll past hundreds of
> crap posts to reach the good stuff. Still, in my opinion, SAA is the
> best group on the internet. Good info, good people, even to the point
> of looking out for each other. I have other hobbies, but astronomy is
> what "matters," and SAA is the ONLY astronomy group I stop in on every
> day. SAA has become part of my life.

I too read SAA raw, but that's not why I think that Marty is the star
that puts the lie to the claim that WebTV is for idiots. The Marty is
the non-idiot *par excellence*.

--
Brian Tung <brian@isi.edu >
The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/
Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/
The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/
My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.html


     
Date: 20 Sep 2007 02:42:21
From: Margo Schulter
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Marty <movac5@webtv.net > wrote:
> Jan Owen was saying
>>Actually, I'd rather hear Marty's take on
>> this, than mine...
>
>>HIS opinion always seems to have a
>> much better *ring* to it than mine...
>
> Hmmm. Not sure what it's worth here... I'm a technological dinosaur
> still picking away on my webbybox. NO filters, NO killfiles, etc. I
> get this group absolutely RAW. I often have to scroll past hundreds of
> crap posts to reach the good stuff. Still, in my opinion, SAA is the
> best group on the internet. Good info, good people, even to the point
> of looking out for each other. I have other hobbies, but astronomy is
> what "matters," and SAA is the ONLY astronomy group I stop in on every
> day. SAA has become part of my life.

Hi, there, Marty and Jan.

I must admit that with the tin reader on my Internet shell account,
my approach is a bit like Marty's: just scroll through the messages,
and mark as read the threads that look clearly off-topic, the equivalent
of deleting them.

The "no more than 30 lines -- or maybe 50" approach seems calculated
not only to filter out most of the spam/sporgery stuff, but to encourage
some of us to consider a more concise prose style <grin >.

>>I think I need to move to Iowa...
>
> Well, here's the next best thing... THE CORN CAM!
> http://www.iowafarmertoday.com/corn_cam

Neat! I downloaded some of the corn_cam graphics -- now is there some
DSO that resembles a corn stalk, and we can nickname accordingly?

Most appreciatively,

Margo Schulter
mschulter@calweb.com
Lat. 38.566 Long. -121.430


      
Date: 19 Sep 2007 22:09:08
From: Marty
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Margo was saying
>The "no more than 30 lines -- or maybe
> 50" approach seems calculated not only
> to filter out most of the spam/sporgery
> stuff, but to encourage some of us to
> consider a more concise prose style
> <grin>.

Well, it'd knock out a lot of my "observing reports" too, as I tend to
run off at the keyboard about why I was looking for what I was looking
for, what happened setting up, what animals happened by, what I dropped
in the grass, excuses for what I didn't find, etc. etc. etc.... Oh
well...
Marty



    
Date: 19 Sep 2007 18:05:43
From: Dave Jessie
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Jan Owen wrote:
> Actually, I'd rather hear Marty's take on this, than mine...

Hi Jan,

Likewise here...no more random word-salad at all.

The ISPs must have figured out what was going on and have effectively
blocked this idiotic waste of bandwidth.

Clear Dark Steady Skies,
Dave Jessie




   
Date: 19 Sep 2007 14:48:50
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
"Esmail" <ebonak_delme@hotmail.com > wrote in message
news:46f195da$0$26378$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>G wrote:
>> looks fine to me. my newsgroup isp is blocking them. go ask yours to do
>> the same...
>
> mine must be doing the same, I haven't seen the same huge deluge
> from a few weeks back repeating itself now.

...nor have I...

Some days a few or maybe twenty or thirty will suddenly appear, but it's SO
simple to delete them that I simply DON'T understand why anyone still sees
this as a PROBLEM...

As always, though, nice to hear from you!!!

Rather talk about more productive items, though!!!

Take care!!!

--
Jan Owen

To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3
http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21




 
Date: 17 Sep 2007 23:03:04
From: chrisachroisdk
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA Shitetard is gone
















In article <Xns99AEBCC454C4Estar6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128 >,
Florian <star6@buggeryourarseholeinthedark.com > wanked:
>I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
>buggering was over. But tonight i find hundreds of bugger posts again. I
>think maybe i'm done with buggering. Why do some ppl feel the need to bugger
>tards for others?
>
>All the best to every bugger. I may not be gone for good...
>
>°Florian

i miss my tard tard is gone poor tard
i want my tard

give to shitetard
http://tinyurl.com/ypt5fn



























wagontard shitetard spammertard stalkertard the bad thing is gone hur fawking rah



 
Date: 18 Sep 2007 12:20:53
From: _
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
On 18 Sep 2007 01:32:59 GMT, Florian wrote:

> I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
> flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
> think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
> things for others?
>
> All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...
>
> °Florian

A simple solution that may work for a time is to get valid posters to all
put a particular string in their subject line - "SAA" for example. The
garbage posting is robotic; the poster running the bot may well not read
the group often, if at all, so white-list the "SAA" and just read that
stuff.

If the bot adapts, change the string.

A further level of complexity would be to enclose ALL valid posts in the
same thread - reply and if necessary change the subject. Most newsreaders
can handle sorting by subject, so choose something with a lot of A's (or
Z's in it.


 
Date: 18 Sep 2007 07:20:45
From: Joe S.
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA

"Florian" <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in message
news:Xns99AEBCC454C4Estar6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128...
>I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
> flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
> think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
> things for others?
>
> All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...
>
> °Florian
>

Do you use Outlook Express as your news reader?

If so, set up a rule that applies to news messages.

I have a rule that says:

If message body contains more than 30 lines, then, delete the message and
stop processing more rules.

This message scans every incoming message. If the message is more than 30
lines long -- which most (all?) of these junk message are -- then, the
system deletes the message, I never see it. This rule has the effect of
knocking out the crypto stuff and it knocks out Min. Doesn't do anything
about the POS who is attacking Dennis but the rule does clean out most of
the garbage.





 
Date: 18 Sep 2007 04:41:17
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Florian wrote:
> I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
> flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
> think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
> things for others?
>
> All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...
>
> °Florian
>


I doesn't take me but a few second to get rid of the crap... Let's
get on with discussing amateur astronomy and related topics.

-Sam


  
Date: 18 Sep 2007 00:45:59
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Sam Wormley wrote:
>
> I doesn't take me but a few second to get rid of the crap... Let's
> get on with discussing amateur astronomy and related topics.
>


Okay - good idea. It's a bit after midnight here in North Texas and
remarkably clear so I took the STL11000M off of the Ritchey and put it
on the FSQ mounted on top. Ran a few focus curves and am collecting some
Ha data on NGC7000. Tracking is excellent. I am enertaining myself by
lying on the floor of the observatory and just scanning the sky with
bino's. Seeing looks great too. Pegasus is nearing the zenith and
Andromeda is rising into the sweet spot too. It's a great time to have a
telescope !.


Regards


Bill


Best Night in months weather wise.


   
Date: 18 Sep 2007 06:10:07
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
William R. Mattil wrote:
> Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>> I doesn't take me but a few second to get rid of the crap... Let's
>> get on with discussing amateur astronomy and related topics.
>>
>
>
> Okay - good idea. It's a bit after midnight here in North Texas and
> remarkably clear so I took the STL11000M off of the Ritchey and put it
> on the FSQ mounted on top. Ran a few focus curves and am collecting some
> Ha data on NGC7000. Tracking is excellent. I am enertaining myself by
> lying on the floor of the observatory and just scanning the sky with
> bino's. Seeing looks great too. Pegasus is nearing the zenith and
> Andromeda is rising into the sweet spot too. It's a great time to have a
> telescope !.
>
>
> Regards
>
>
> Bill
>
>
> Best Night in months weather wise.


Thanks Bill--Overcast here. Can you see Uranus naked eye from
your location?
-Sam


    
Date: 18 Sep 2007 14:36:10
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Bill--Overcast here. Can you see Uranus naked eye from
> your location?


Hi Sam,

Not in the Summer. too low and buried in pollution.


Regards

Bill


 
Date: 17 Sep 2007 23:14:59
From: UI/FOX-Simpson Athletic Dept.
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Its gone to the Starlords of Agrippa. The "Save OJ Committee"
will be here next. I will post some real news nobody will care about!


Florian wrote:

> I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
> flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
> think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
> things for others?
>
> All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...
>
> °Florian



 
Date: 17 Sep 2007 19:38:29
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
"Florian" <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in message
news:Xns99AEBCC454C4Estar6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128...
>I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
> flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
> think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
> things for others?
>
> All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...
>
> °Florian
>

I agree that it's pretty disappointing that some low-lifes feel they have to
do crap like this, but, honestly, it's VERY easy to get rid of...

Just mark them all as a group (exclude those you know aren't part of the
junk), and delete them... I get rid of them in a few seconds to a minute or
two... No big deal... Just air-heads...

As for leaving, there's more of the old SAA crowd here right now than at any
time in the recent past. So picking NOW to leave seems pretty strange,
though, of course, it IS entirely your choice...

Whatever your choice, best wishes...

--
Jan Owen

To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address...
Latitude: 33.6
Longitude: -112.3
http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21




  
Date: 18 Sep 2007 04:09:22
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
> As for leaving, there's more of the old SAA crowd here right now than
> at any time in the recent past. So picking NOW to leave seems pretty
> strange, though, of course, it IS entirely your choice...


I didn't say i was leaving. I'm just frustrated.

°Florian



   
Date: 18 Sep 2007 05:40:14
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Florian wrote:
>> As for leaving, there's more of the old SAA crowd here right now than
>> at any time in the recent past. So picking NOW to leave seems pretty
>> strange, though, of course, it IS entirely your choice...
>
>
> I didn't say i was leaving. I'm just frustrated.

*That* we can all understand. But "this too shall pass" :)

PS: Depending on your filters you can use the Organization in the
headers, or possibly the message length. Generally legitimate
discussions are rather short if everyone trims superfluous content. The
detritus that is plaguing this group seems to have a certain number of
lines of content.



Regards

Bill




 
Date: 17 Sep 2007 22:28:24
From: Dennis Woos
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
>I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
> flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
> think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
> things for others?
>
> All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...
>
> °Florian
>

I have to say that I don't see what's so awful with having to delete the
junk messages. It takes less time than my posting this. Sure. it is too bad
that the group is being attacked/polluted, but cleaning up is no big deal,
and only takes seconds. This junk is mildly annoying, but is nowhere near
"ruining" the group for me.

Dennis




  
Date: 18 Sep 2007 02:39:16
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
> I have to say that I don't see what's so awful with having to delete
> the junk messages. It takes less time than my posting this. Sure. it
> is too bad that the group is being attacked/polluted, but cleaning up
> is no big deal, and only takes seconds.


Dennis, what is your method for deleting the junk posts in seconds?

°Florian



   
Date: 17 Sep 2007 21:40:59
From: Chris L Peterson
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
On 18 Sep 2007 02:39:16 GMT, Florian <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote:

>Dennis, what is your method for deleting the junk posts in seconds?

I just click through the headers, selecting the bogus messages (they are
very obvious from their titles). I guess I go through them about two per
second. I doubt I've spent more than 30 seconds to delete whatever comes
in between checking SAA.

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com


    
Date: 18 Sep 2007 04:06:32
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
> I just click through the headers, selecting the bogus messages (they are
> very obvious from their titles).


Maybe they are pretty obvious by their titles. Tonight just seemed
particuarly overwelming for some reason. I've not given up yet.

;-/

°Florian



    
Date: 18 Sep 2007 04:00:50
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
> I just click through the headers, selecting the bogus messages (they are
> very obvious from their titles). I guess I go through them about two per
> second. I doubt I've spent more than 30 seconds to delete whatever comes
> in between checking SAA.


Maybe i'm just not clever enough but i open message after message, with
subject lines that seem legit and from user names i recognize, and they are
just full of random meaningless ramblings.

°Florian



     
Date: 17 Sep 2007 22:33:15
From: Chris L Peterson
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
On 18 Sep 2007 04:00:50 GMT, Florian <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote:

>Maybe i'm just not clever enough but i open message after message, with
>subject lines that seem legit and from user names i recognize, and they are
>just full of random meaningless ramblings.

Yeah, I expect you're just slow <g >. Seriously, what headers are you
seeing that look legit. They all look obviously out of place to me.

_________________________________________________

Chris L Peterson
Cloudbait Observatory
http://www.cloudbait.com


   
Date: 17 Sep 2007 22:56:34
From: Dennis Woos
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA

"Florian" <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in message
news:Xns99AEC8010F65star6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128...
>> I have to say that I don't see what's so awful with having to delete
>> the junk messages. It takes less time than my posting this. Sure. it
>> is too bad that the group is being attacked/polluted, but cleaning up
>> is no big deal, and only takes seconds.
>
>
> Dennis, what is your method for deleting the junk posts in seconds?
>
> °Florian
>

In Outlook Express newsreader, I highlight the junk msgs (click on first
one, shift+click on the last one) and then press the delete key. Poof -
gone.

Dennis




    
Date: 18 Sep 2007 03:55:05
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
> In Outlook Express newsreader, I highlight the junk msgs (click on first
> one, shift+click on the last one) and then press the delete key. Poof -
> gone.


How do you differentiate the one or two good msgs in that huge list of junk
to NOT delete them?

°Florian



     
Date: 18 Sep 2007 08:10:33
From: Dennis Woos
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
>
> How do you differentiate the one or two good msgs in that huge list of
> junk
> to NOT delete them?
>
> °Florian
>

If I notice any legit ones in the block, then I don't hilight them. However,
I don't obsess over it, and maybe I do sometimes delete one or two that I
might want to read. I don't loose any sleep over it - in fact I probably
gain a little sleep in that I didn't read those few and so got to bed
earlier ;)

Dennis




 
Date: 17 Sep 2007 20:05:03
From: Mark D
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Hello Florian,
Well I'm here my friend, Been here on, and off since probably 1996.

Maybe "We" can overpower the spamming nincompoops!

I can remember when Bob Luffel, Tom Back, Roland C, Markus L, Rich W,
Alan French, Jay, Freeman, Todd Gross, Valery, Yuri, Bill Byrd, used to
enjoy sharing thier knowledge, and opinions here.

Bill B (Rat) would give us his observing reports, Alan would tell us
about AP equipment, Bob, and tom would discuss the attributes, and
qualities of the Leitz 30mm, Jay would tell us about ''Harvey", Todd
would chime in about shottouts between some of the smaller refractors.
Me, I'd chime in on the lower levels, as I certainly didn't possess
quite the knowledge of the others I have mentioned.

We'd tell each of the of Star Parties across the nation-world, and share
experiences, even if they were about Party goers with "Swollen Heads".

We'd talk about equipment, talk about Clave, Zeiss, Pentax, UO, and TV
Eyepieces, discuss Strehl Ratios, P-V Errors, Interferometry, talk about
Triplets, Maks, and Mak Newtonians, and Flourite Lenses, discuss
Filters, offer help to newbies.

Perhaps I am speaking of a bygone era? What the hell happened to the
USA, and the rest of the world? Have we all become a bunch of
inconsiderate, careless people? Mark





  
Date: 18 Sep 2007 02:42:33
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
> Perhaps I am speaking of a bygone era? What the hell happened to the
> USA, and the rest of the world? Have we all become a bunch of
> inconsiderate, careless people? Mark


Hi Mark,

Of course we all haven't become jerks. But when a few, or maybe even one
person, can set up bots to totally overload a newsgroup is it really worth
the effort to try and sort it out for the few meaningful posts? I'm not
leaving saa for good. But i don't really see a reason to sort through
floods of msgs to find the 1% i care about.

°Florian



 
Date: 18 Sep 2007 02:06:42
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
Florian wrote:
> I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the
> flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I
> think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin
> things for others?
>
> All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good...
>
> °Florian
>


If everyone felt this way then certainly all is lost.


Bill


  
Date: 18 Sep 2007 02:18:44
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
> If everyone felt this way then certainly all is lost.


I know there are mayn attentive and caring posters to saa but they won't
stop the floods of garbage. If you have a solution then please share.

°Florian