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Date: 18 Sep 2007 01:32:59
From: Florian
Subject: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin things for others? All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... °Florian
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 00:45:39
From: City of Blood
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Florian wrote: > I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the > flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I > think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin > things for others? > > All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... > > °Flo It is hopeless. Anything that blocks 90% of reality is hopless. SAA's gather around astronomy and miss the central fact that 99.9% of existence is shere utter nothingness, SAA and SAAers included. SAAers complicate it further by asserting: "I will block the truth"! Interesting. SAAers call it: Identity. Good luck. Adios.
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 08:35:27
From: Greg Crinklaw
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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City of Blood wrote: > Adios. Unfortunately that's just another lie.
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 04:12:29
From: Bonopopopo
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Greg Crinklaw wrote: > City of Blood wrote: > > Adios. > > Unfortunately that's just another lie. I was gone the day I ventured into this shithole.
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 23:03:25
From: Dr J R Stockton
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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In sci.astro.amateur message <fcocc901boa@news3.newsguy.com >, Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:20:45, Joe S. <noone@nowhere.net > posted: > >If message body contains more than 30 lines, then, delete the message and >stop processing more rules. > The message to which I am responding had 31 lines ... -- (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 MIME. Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/ > - FAQqish topics, acronyms & links; Astro stuff via astron-1.htm, gravity0.htm ; quotings.htm, pascal.htm, etc. No Encoding. Quotes before replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Don't Mail News.
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 16:39:14
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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"Dr J R Stockton" <jrs@merlyn.demon.co.uk > wrote in message news:0a6smQjtsE8GFwEL@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid... > In sci.astro.amateur message <fcocc901boa@news3.newsguy.com>, Tue, 18 > Sep 2007 07:20:45, Joe S. <noone@nowhere.net> posted: >> >>If message body contains more than 30 lines, then, delete the message and >>stop processing more rules. >> > > The message to which I am responding had 31 lines ... > > -- > (c) John Stockton, Surrey, UK. ?@merlyn.demon.co.uk Turnpike v6.05 > MIME. > Web <URL:http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/> - FAQqish topics, acronyms & > links; > Astro stuff via astron-1.htm, gravity0.htm ; quotings.htm, pascal.htm, > etc. > No Encoding. Quotes before replies. Snip well. Write clearly. Don't Mail > News. There's no perfect number... I've set my filters at 30 and at 50... Many of the sporge messages are larger than 50 lines... Of course, this has also been a report card on MY loquatiousness (as in, I tend to TALK too much), and my own filters can trap MY messages between 30 and 50 lines, so I've become a leetle more lenient, in my own interests, and I still seem to catch about the same number (and still DON'T catch quite a few, but ALL of which are VERY easy to just delete. So no big deal either way... Whew!!! Did THIS take 60 lines??? -- Jan Owen To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address... Latitude: 33.6 Longitude: -112.3 http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 19:56:15
From: VicXnews
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Florian <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in news:Xns99AEBCC454C4Estar6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128: > I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the > flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I > think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin > things for others? > > All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... > > °Florian > Have tried f9 (xnews)custom filter,50 lines or more?
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 13:40:07
From: G
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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looks fine to me. my newsgroup isp is blocking them. go ask yours to do the same... "Florian" <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in message news:Xns99AEBCC454C4Estar6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128... >I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the > flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I > think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin > things for others? > > All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... > > °Florian >
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 17:34:18
From: Esmail
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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G wrote: > looks fine to me. my newsgroup isp is blocking them. go ask yours to do the > same... mine must be doing the same, I haven't seen the same huge deluge from a few weeks back repeating itself now.
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 14:51:26
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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"Esmail" <ebonak_delme@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:46f195da$0$26378$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >G wrote: >> looks fine to me. my newsgroup isp is blocking them. go ask yours to do >> the same... > > mine must be doing the same, I haven't seen the same huge deluge > from a few weeks back repeating itself now. Actually, I'd rather hear Marty's take on this, than mine... HIS opinion always seems to have a much better *ring* to it than mine... I think I need to move to Iowa... -- Jan Owen To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address... Latitude: 33.6 Longitude: -112.3 http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 18:46:42
From: Marty
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Jan Owen was saying >Actually, I'd rather hear Marty's take on > this, than mine... >HIS opinion always seems to have a > much better *ring* to it than mine... Hmmm. Not sure what it's worth here... I'm a technological dinosaur still picking away on my webbybox. NO filters, NO killfiles, etc. I get this group absolutely RAW. I often have to scroll past hundreds of crap posts to reach the good stuff. Still, in my opinion, SAA is the best group on the internet. Good info, good people, even to the point of looking out for each other. I have other hobbies, but astronomy is what "matters," and SAA is the ONLY astronomy group I stop in on every day. SAA has become part of my life. >I think I need to move to Iowa... Well, here's the next best thing... THE CORN CAM! http://www.iowafarmertoday.com/corn_cam Marty
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 04:11:31
From: Bonopopopo
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Marty wrote: > Jan Owen was saying > >Actually, I'd rather hear Marty's take on > > this, than mine... > > >HIS opinion always seems to have a > > much better *ring* to it than mine... > > Hmmm. Not sure what it's worth here... I'm a technological dinosaur > still picking away on my webbybox. NO filters, NO killfiles, etc. I > get this group absolutely RAW. I often have to scroll past hundreds of > crap posts to reach the good stuff. Still, in my opinion, SAA is the > best group on the internet. Good info, good people, even to the point > of looking out for each other. I have other hobbies, but astronomy is > what "matters," and SAA is the ONLY astronomy group I stop in on every > day. SAA has become part of my life. > >I think I need to move to Iowa... > > Well, here's the next best thing... THE CORN CAM! > http://www.iowafarmertoday.com/corn_cam > Marty Well you can come here, you would be welcome, and stand and learn and watch the experts. All the experts on every subject have come here, cuz there aint no room left in Heaven. Large donnations are required - gear for the Iowa Astronomer Royals is expensive. You might even get one of the experts to talk to you. Bring along a psychiatrist and a lawyer.
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 20:59:04
From: Brian Tung
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Marty wrote: > Hmmm. Not sure what it's worth here... I'm a technological dinosaur > still picking away on my webbybox. NO filters, NO killfiles, etc. I > get this group absolutely RAW. I often have to scroll past hundreds of > crap posts to reach the good stuff. Still, in my opinion, SAA is the > best group on the internet. Good info, good people, even to the point > of looking out for each other. I have other hobbies, but astronomy is > what "matters," and SAA is the ONLY astronomy group I stop in on every > day. SAA has become part of my life. I too read SAA raw, but that's not why I think that Marty is the star that puts the lie to the claim that WebTV is for idiots. The Marty is the non-idiot *par excellence*. -- Brian Tung <brian@isi.edu > The Astronomy Corner at http://astro.isi.edu/ Unofficial C5+ Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/c5plus/ The PleiadAtlas Home Page at http://astro.isi.edu/pleiadatlas/ My Own Personal FAQ (SAA) at http://astro.isi.edu/reference/faq.html
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Date: 20 Sep 2007 02:42:21
From: Margo Schulter
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Marty <movac5@webtv.net > wrote: > Jan Owen was saying >>Actually, I'd rather hear Marty's take on >> this, than mine... > >>HIS opinion always seems to have a >> much better *ring* to it than mine... > > Hmmm. Not sure what it's worth here... I'm a technological dinosaur > still picking away on my webbybox. NO filters, NO killfiles, etc. I > get this group absolutely RAW. I often have to scroll past hundreds of > crap posts to reach the good stuff. Still, in my opinion, SAA is the > best group on the internet. Good info, good people, even to the point > of looking out for each other. I have other hobbies, but astronomy is > what "matters," and SAA is the ONLY astronomy group I stop in on every > day. SAA has become part of my life. Hi, there, Marty and Jan. I must admit that with the tin reader on my Internet shell account, my approach is a bit like Marty's: just scroll through the messages, and mark as read the threads that look clearly off-topic, the equivalent of deleting them. The "no more than 30 lines -- or maybe 50" approach seems calculated not only to filter out most of the spam/sporgery stuff, but to encourage some of us to consider a more concise prose style <grin >. >>I think I need to move to Iowa... > > Well, here's the next best thing... THE CORN CAM! > http://www.iowafarmertoday.com/corn_cam Neat! I downloaded some of the corn_cam graphics -- now is there some DSO that resembles a corn stalk, and we can nickname accordingly? Most appreciatively, Margo Schulter mschulter@calweb.com Lat. 38.566 Long. -121.430
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 22:09:08
From: Marty
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Margo was saying >The "no more than 30 lines -- or maybe > 50" approach seems calculated not only > to filter out most of the spam/sporgery > stuff, but to encourage some of us to > consider a more concise prose style > <grin>. Well, it'd knock out a lot of my "observing reports" too, as I tend to run off at the keyboard about why I was looking for what I was looking for, what happened setting up, what animals happened by, what I dropped in the grass, excuses for what I didn't find, etc. etc. etc.... Oh well... Marty
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 18:05:43
From: Dave Jessie
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Jan Owen wrote: > Actually, I'd rather hear Marty's take on this, than mine... Hi Jan, Likewise here...no more random word-salad at all. The ISPs must have figured out what was going on and have effectively blocked this idiotic waste of bandwidth. Clear Dark Steady Skies, Dave Jessie
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Date: 19 Sep 2007 14:48:50
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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"Esmail" <ebonak_delme@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:46f195da$0$26378$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >G wrote: >> looks fine to me. my newsgroup isp is blocking them. go ask yours to do >> the same... > > mine must be doing the same, I haven't seen the same huge deluge > from a few weeks back repeating itself now. ...nor have I... Some days a few or maybe twenty or thirty will suddenly appear, but it's SO simple to delete them that I simply DON'T understand why anyone still sees this as a PROBLEM... As always, though, nice to hear from you!!! Rather talk about more productive items, though!!! Take care!!! -- Jan Owen To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address... Latitude: 33.6 Longitude: -112.3 http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 23:03:04
From: chrisachroisdk
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA Shitetard is gone
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In article <Xns99AEBCC454C4Estar6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128 >, Florian <star6@buggeryourarseholeinthedark.com > wanked: >I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the >buggering was over. But tonight i find hundreds of bugger posts again. I >think maybe i'm done with buggering. Why do some ppl feel the need to bugger >tards for others? > >All the best to every bugger. I may not be gone for good... > >°Florian i miss my tard tard is gone poor tard i want my tard give to shitetard http://tinyurl.com/ypt5fn wagontard shitetard spammertard stalkertard the bad thing is gone hur fawking rah
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 12:20:53
From: _
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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On 18 Sep 2007 01:32:59 GMT, Florian wrote: > I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the > flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I > think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin > things for others? > > All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... > > °Florian A simple solution that may work for a time is to get valid posters to all put a particular string in their subject line - "SAA" for example. The garbage posting is robotic; the poster running the bot may well not read the group often, if at all, so white-list the "SAA" and just read that stuff. If the bot adapts, change the string. A further level of complexity would be to enclose ALL valid posts in the same thread - reply and if necessary change the subject. Most newsreaders can handle sorting by subject, so choose something with a lot of A's (or Z's in it.
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 07:20:45
From: Joe S.
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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"Florian" <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in message news:Xns99AEBCC454C4Estar6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128... >I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the > flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I > think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin > things for others? > > All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... > > °Florian > Do you use Outlook Express as your news reader? If so, set up a rule that applies to news messages. I have a rule that says: If message body contains more than 30 lines, then, delete the message and stop processing more rules. This message scans every incoming message. If the message is more than 30 lines long -- which most (all?) of these junk message are -- then, the system deletes the message, I never see it. This rule has the effect of knocking out the crypto stuff and it knocks out Min. Doesn't do anything about the POS who is attacking Dennis but the rule does clean out most of the garbage.
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 04:41:17
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Florian wrote: > I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the > flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I > think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin > things for others? > > All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... > > °Florian > I doesn't take me but a few second to get rid of the crap... Let's get on with discussing amateur astronomy and related topics. -Sam
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 00:45:59
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Sam Wormley wrote: > > I doesn't take me but a few second to get rid of the crap... Let's > get on with discussing amateur astronomy and related topics. > Okay - good idea. It's a bit after midnight here in North Texas and remarkably clear so I took the STL11000M off of the Ritchey and put it on the FSQ mounted on top. Ran a few focus curves and am collecting some Ha data on NGC7000. Tracking is excellent. I am enertaining myself by lying on the floor of the observatory and just scanning the sky with bino's. Seeing looks great too. Pegasus is nearing the zenith and Andromeda is rising into the sweet spot too. It's a great time to have a telescope !. Regards Bill Best Night in months weather wise.
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 06:10:07
From: Sam Wormley
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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William R. Mattil wrote: > Sam Wormley wrote: >> >> I doesn't take me but a few second to get rid of the crap... Let's >> get on with discussing amateur astronomy and related topics. >> > > > Okay - good idea. It's a bit after midnight here in North Texas and > remarkably clear so I took the STL11000M off of the Ritchey and put it > on the FSQ mounted on top. Ran a few focus curves and am collecting some > Ha data on NGC7000. Tracking is excellent. I am enertaining myself by > lying on the floor of the observatory and just scanning the sky with > bino's. Seeing looks great too. Pegasus is nearing the zenith and > Andromeda is rising into the sweet spot too. It's a great time to have a > telescope !. > > > Regards > > > Bill > > > Best Night in months weather wise. Thanks Bill--Overcast here. Can you see Uranus naked eye from your location? -Sam
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 14:36:10
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Sam Wormley wrote: > > > > Thanks Bill--Overcast here. Can you see Uranus naked eye from > your location? Hi Sam, Not in the Summer. too low and buried in pollution. Regards Bill
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 23:14:59
From: UI/FOX-Simpson Athletic Dept.
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Its gone to the Starlords of Agrippa. The "Save OJ Committee" will be here next. I will post some real news nobody will care about! Florian wrote: > I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the > flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I > think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin > things for others? > > All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... > > °Florian
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 19:38:29
From: Jan Owen
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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"Florian" <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in message news:Xns99AEBCC454C4Estar6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128... >I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the > flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I > think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin > things for others? > > All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... > > °Florian > I agree that it's pretty disappointing that some low-lifes feel they have to do crap like this, but, honestly, it's VERY easy to get rid of... Just mark them all as a group (exclude those you know aren't part of the junk), and delete them... I get rid of them in a few seconds to a minute or two... No big deal... Just air-heads... As for leaving, there's more of the old SAA crowd here right now than at any time in the recent past. So picking NOW to leave seems pretty strange, though, of course, it IS entirely your choice... Whatever your choice, best wishes... -- Jan Owen To reach me directly, remove the Z, if one appears in my e-mail address... Latitude: 33.6 Longitude: -112.3 http://community.webshots.com/user/janowen21
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 04:09:22
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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> As for leaving, there's more of the old SAA crowd here right now than > at any time in the recent past. So picking NOW to leave seems pretty > strange, though, of course, it IS entirely your choice... I didn't say i was leaving. I'm just frustrated. °Florian
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 05:40:14
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Florian wrote: >> As for leaving, there's more of the old SAA crowd here right now than >> at any time in the recent past. So picking NOW to leave seems pretty >> strange, though, of course, it IS entirely your choice... > > > I didn't say i was leaving. I'm just frustrated. *That* we can all understand. But "this too shall pass" :) PS: Depending on your filters you can use the Organization in the headers, or possibly the message length. Generally legitimate discussions are rather short if everyone trims superfluous content. The detritus that is plaguing this group seems to have a certain number of lines of content. Regards Bill
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 22:28:24
From: Dennis Woos
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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>I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the > flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I > think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin > things for others? > > All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... > > °Florian > I have to say that I don't see what's so awful with having to delete the junk messages. It takes less time than my posting this. Sure. it is too bad that the group is being attacked/polluted, but cleaning up is no big deal, and only takes seconds. This junk is mildly annoying, but is nowhere near "ruining" the group for me. Dennis
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 02:39:16
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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> I have to say that I don't see what's so awful with having to delete > the junk messages. It takes less time than my posting this. Sure. it > is too bad that the group is being attacked/polluted, but cleaning up > is no big deal, and only takes seconds. Dennis, what is your method for deleting the junk posts in seconds? °Florian
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 21:40:59
From: Chris L Peterson
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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On 18 Sep 2007 02:39:16 GMT, Florian <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote: >Dennis, what is your method for deleting the junk posts in seconds? I just click through the headers, selecting the bogus messages (they are very obvious from their titles). I guess I go through them about two per second. I doubt I've spent more than 30 seconds to delete whatever comes in between checking SAA. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 04:06:32
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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> I just click through the headers, selecting the bogus messages (they are > very obvious from their titles). Maybe they are pretty obvious by their titles. Tonight just seemed particuarly overwelming for some reason. I've not given up yet. ;-/ °Florian
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 04:00:50
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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> I just click through the headers, selecting the bogus messages (they are > very obvious from their titles). I guess I go through them about two per > second. I doubt I've spent more than 30 seconds to delete whatever comes > in between checking SAA. Maybe i'm just not clever enough but i open message after message, with subject lines that seem legit and from user names i recognize, and they are just full of random meaningless ramblings. °Florian
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 22:33:15
From: Chris L Peterson
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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On 18 Sep 2007 04:00:50 GMT, Florian <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote: >Maybe i'm just not clever enough but i open message after message, with >subject lines that seem legit and from user names i recognize, and they are >just full of random meaningless ramblings. Yeah, I expect you're just slow <g >. Seriously, what headers are you seeing that look legit. They all look obviously out of place to me. _________________________________________________ Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 22:56:34
From: Dennis Woos
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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"Florian" <star6@seeyouinthedark.com > wrote in message news:Xns99AEC8010F65star6seeyouinthedark@66.250.146.128... >> I have to say that I don't see what's so awful with having to delete >> the junk messages. It takes less time than my posting this. Sure. it >> is too bad that the group is being attacked/polluted, but cleaning up >> is no big deal, and only takes seconds. > > > Dennis, what is your method for deleting the junk posts in seconds? > > °Florian > In Outlook Express newsreader, I highlight the junk msgs (click on first one, shift+click on the last one) and then press the delete key. Poof - gone. Dennis
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 03:55:05
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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> In Outlook Express newsreader, I highlight the junk msgs (click on first > one, shift+click on the last one) and then press the delete key. Poof - > gone. How do you differentiate the one or two good msgs in that huge list of junk to NOT delete them? °Florian
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 08:10:33
From: Dennis Woos
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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> > How do you differentiate the one or two good msgs in that huge list of > junk > to NOT delete them? > > °Florian > If I notice any legit ones in the block, then I don't hilight them. However, I don't obsess over it, and maybe I do sometimes delete one or two that I might want to read. I don't loose any sleep over it - in fact I probably gain a little sleep in that I didn't read those few and so got to bed earlier ;) Dennis
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Date: 17 Sep 2007 20:05:03
From: Mark D
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Hello Florian, Well I'm here my friend, Been here on, and off since probably 1996. Maybe "We" can overpower the spamming nincompoops! I can remember when Bob Luffel, Tom Back, Roland C, Markus L, Rich W, Alan French, Jay, Freeman, Todd Gross, Valery, Yuri, Bill Byrd, used to enjoy sharing thier knowledge, and opinions here. Bill B (Rat) would give us his observing reports, Alan would tell us about AP equipment, Bob, and tom would discuss the attributes, and qualities of the Leitz 30mm, Jay would tell us about ''Harvey", Todd would chime in about shottouts between some of the smaller refractors. Me, I'd chime in on the lower levels, as I certainly didn't possess quite the knowledge of the others I have mentioned. We'd tell each of the of Star Parties across the nation-world, and share experiences, even if they were about Party goers with "Swollen Heads". We'd talk about equipment, talk about Clave, Zeiss, Pentax, UO, and TV Eyepieces, discuss Strehl Ratios, P-V Errors, Interferometry, talk about Triplets, Maks, and Mak Newtonians, and Flourite Lenses, discuss Filters, offer help to newbies. Perhaps I am speaking of a bygone era? What the hell happened to the USA, and the rest of the world? Have we all become a bunch of inconsiderate, careless people? Mark
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 02:42:33
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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> Perhaps I am speaking of a bygone era? What the hell happened to the > USA, and the rest of the world? Have we all become a bunch of > inconsiderate, careless people? Mark Hi Mark, Of course we all haven't become jerks. But when a few, or maybe even one person, can set up bots to totally overload a newsgroup is it really worth the effort to try and sort it out for the few meaningful posts? I'm not leaving saa for good. But i don't really see a reason to sort through floods of msgs to find the 1% i care about. °Florian
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 02:06:42
From: William R. Mattil
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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Florian wrote: > I was just thinking that maybe s.a.a. was going to be okay and that the > flooding was over. But tonight i find hundreds of garbage posts again. I > think maybe i'm done with usenet. Why do some ppl feel the need to ruin > things for others? > > All the best to everyone. I may not be gone for good... > > °Florian > If everyone felt this way then certainly all is lost. Bill
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Date: 18 Sep 2007 02:18:44
From: Florian
Subject: Re: Maybe it is hopeless on SAA
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> If everyone felt this way then certainly all is lost. I know there are mayn attentive and caring posters to saa but they won't stop the floods of garbage. If you have a solution then please share. °Florian
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