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Date: 09 Aug 2007 01:50:04
From: Nomen Nescio
Subject: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net > wrote:
>Richard Smol wrote
>> You got it all wrong. Human beings survive just because they live
>> together and cooperate. It's what makes us fit in our niche.
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>Try cooperating with someone intent on murdering you. Or,
>with someone who wants your woman or your food or your money.
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Indeed! Asking Christians to "cooperate" with Anti-Christian
Atheists, in this day and age, would be very much comparable
to having asked devout orthodox Jews to have cooperated with
the NAZIs during the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust.
Thus the only way to "negotiate", or "cooperate" with Atheists,
is the same way that the U.S. Government "negotiated" with the
Japanese on August 6th and August 9th of 1945. We "negotiated"!
Atheists cannot ever be negotiated with, neither can they ever
be reasoned with, nor can they ever be bargained with short of
World War, Apocalyptic Armageddon, and Unconditional Surrender.
The only good Atheist is: 1) a dead Atheist, or 2) an Atheist
who has surrendered unconditionally. No other Atheist will do.
Ex-Republican,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 13:24:50
From: Paul Duca (tomservo56954@comcast.net)
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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On Aug 8, 7:50 pm, Nomen Nescio <nob...@dizum.com > wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Roy Jose Lorr <Ken...@comcast.net> wrote:
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> >Richard Smol wrote
> >> You got it all wrong. Human beings survive just because they live
> >> together and cooperate. It's what makes us fit in our niche.
>
> >Try cooperating with someone intent on murdering you. Or,
> >with someone who wants your woman or your food or your money.
>
That leaves Min out...he doesn't have ANY of those things (but still
expects Zeus to provide them)
Paul
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Date: 10 Aug 2007 20:49:01
From: SBC Yahoo
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com > wrote in message
news:a543ec6e64e0bf641eea286a824ac1eb@dizum.com...
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Richard Smol wrote
>>> You got it all wrong. Human beings survive just because they live
>>> together and cooperate. It's what makes us fit in our niche.
>>
>>Try cooperating with someone intent on murdering you. Or,
>>with someone who wants your woman or your food or your money.
>
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>
> Indeed! Asking Christians to "cooperate" with Anti-Christian
> Atheists, in this day and age, would be very much comparable
> to having asked devout orthodox Jews to have cooperated with
> the NAZIs during the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust.
>
> Thus the only way to "negotiate", or "cooperate" with Atheists,
> is the same way that the U.S. Government "negotiated" with the
> Japanese on August 6th and August 9th of 1945. We "negotiated"!
>
> Atheists cannot ever be negotiated with, neither can they ever
> be reasoned with, nor can they ever be bargained with short of
> World War, Apocalyptic Armageddon, and Unconditional Surrender.
>
> The only good Atheist is: 1) a dead Atheist, or 2) an Atheist
> who has surrendered unconditionally. No other Atheist will do.
>
> Ex-Republican,
> Daniel Joseph Min
> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
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If Min ever wants to negotiate with some Atheists, I can arrange it.
However, you will not be hearing any more from Min, because there won't be
enough of him left to scrape off the walls.
I happen to know some that are very good at what they do. I would not
attack them, (unless I had a nuke) but if one is foolish enough, they could
try it.
As those drunken Baptists would say, "Praise the Lord, and pass the Bourbon"
Be careful what you ask for, you might just receive it.
This Jesus Christ fellow, everyone claims to know exactly what "he" said or
meant, but no one can prove that he even existed or, in fact, said
anything. Others wrote scripts hundreds of years after the fact, claiming
to be a record of his words, then many, many others have been re-writing
them for 15-20 centuries, whenever it is convenient, or they need updating
to make credible. One might suspect that everyone using his name is trying
CONvince others that they themselves are infallible, and speaking for "him".
Unfounded belief in anything is called stupidity.
Using the name of others to gain advance or prestige is called deceit or
fraud.
The premise of all con artists is "trust me, it is true even though there is
no proof".
Want to believe in something? Get an education, then only believe in facts.
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 17:02:19
From: John Smith
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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So?
What else is new?
Ever since the concept called religion was invented, those who profess to
having religion have ALWAYS wared on those who more prefer reality over
outrageous delusion.
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Date: 11 Aug 2007 13:30:02
From: A J K
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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"John Smith" <bobsyoungbro@yahoo.com > wrote in message news:vYlvi.2265$Ns6.418@trnddc01...
So?
What else is new?
Ever since the concept called religion was invented, those who profess to
having religion have ALWAYS wared on those who more prefer reality over
outrageous delusion.
You are absolutely correct. Promotion of gods and religion
has been used by those in power to tame their "slaves".
Then the churches used those delusions to gain power
and money.(not to mention pedophilia and homosexuality)
Love of science including astronomy must be free from this delusion!!
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Date: 09 Aug 2007 17:19:10
From: gb6726
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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The racist 'ethnic assimilation program' in Australia began in the
early 20th century and lasted till the early 1970's. 100 thousand
aboriginal kids were separated from their parents in an attempt to mix
aboriginal people into the Australian society. This week the right to
their lands was siezed, alcohol banned and their property laws
dismissed, as if Native Americans would loose their reservations in
the USA.
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Date: 09 Aug 2007 19:06:07
From: Topaz
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.
Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:
"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
would quarrel over just what happened"
The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
them to Madagascar.
Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"
Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"
which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the
allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:
Brian Harmon <harmon@msg.ucsf.edu > wrote in article
<080620000051136373%harmon@msg.ucsf.edu >...
"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V are in
their demolished state as they were left."
Charles Don Hall <cdhall-nospam@erols.com > wrote in article
<8F4CB71B7NukuNuku@news.erols.com >...
"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.
"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully
admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz
was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical
evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who
died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter
the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up
the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings
used to be gas chambers.
But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main
confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:
"In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the
historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by
beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what
Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.
In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three
days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture
Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions
of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to
Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face
four times to get Höess to reveal his true identity.
<quote >
The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
order signed by Höss.
The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas ripped from his
body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where
it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless.
Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
unless you want to take back a corpse."
A blanket was thrown over Höss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his
throat. Höss tried to sleep.
Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in
Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."
For the first time Höss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I
took my orders from Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as you
are a soldier and we had to obey orders."
The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning. The snow
was swirling
still, but the blanket was torn from Höss and he was made to walk
completely nude
through the prison yard to his cell.
</quote >
An article in the British newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
cell with a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed,"
October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case
of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones:
<quote >
Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
stationed at
Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein. "They brought him to us when he
refused to
cooperate over questioning about his activities during the war. He
came in the winter
of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls
Mr. Jones. Two
other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Höss in his cell
to help break
him down for interrogation. "We sat in the cell with him, night and
day, armed with
axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to
help break down
his resistance," said Mr. Jones. When Höss was taken out for exercise
he was made
to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three
days and
nights without sleep, Höss finally broke down and made a full
confession to
the authorities.
</quote >
The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later
revamped, as document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral
deposition Hoess made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it
had been extracted from him by torture...
Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the
Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this
leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and
not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if
the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of
the smoke.
The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an
extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about
every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.
The real "holocaust" was when the Communist Jews murdered millions of
Christians. Communism was Jewish. Here is proof:
Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)
Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
Charles Malamuth.
In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:
"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131, Trotzky--131."
Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.
David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:
"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
revolution."
The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:
"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."
In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:
Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.
Andrew Roth, a Jew.
Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
John Service, a gentile.
Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.
In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.
The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.
In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
pro-communist.
One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
nationality unknown.
Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.
Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.
"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two men
who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."
The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:
"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."
The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the
U.S. Archives:
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."
From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomery Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type" type."
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.
The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."
"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920 "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the
membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan,
The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."
Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.
Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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Date: 10 Aug 2007 00:47:38
From: A J K
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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Min and Topaz deserve each other. Together they can
compare the number of time their mothers dropped them
on their heads while their father laughed. They may
have murdered or thought of murdering a parent, since
it was justified and history can be rewritten for the
sadistic sickos of the world.
"Topaz" <mars1933@hotmail.com > wrote in message news:1uanb39hsvms5jbusfn8mjjgqr81n4ch0n@4ax.com...
During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.
Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:
"the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
would quarrel over just what happened"
The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
them to Madagascar.
Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"
Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"
which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the
allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:
Brian Harmon <harmon@msg.ucsf.edu > wrote in article
<080620000051136373%harmon@msg.ucsf.edu >...
"You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V. Krema I is a
reconstruction, this has never been a secret. Kremas II-V are in
their demolished state as they were left."
Charles Don Hall <cdhall-nospam@erols.com > wrote in article
<8F4CB71B7NukuNuku@news.erols.com >...
"Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
deceive.
"The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully
admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz
was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical
evidence that the Germans had gas chambers. No bodies of people who
died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter
the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up
the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings
used to be gas chambers.
But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main
confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:
"In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the
historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by
beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what
Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.
In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three
days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture
Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions
of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to
Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face
four times to get Höess to reveal his true identity.
<quote >
The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
order signed by Höss.
The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas ripped from his
body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where
it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless.
Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
unless you want to take back a corpse."
A blanket was thrown over Höss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his
throat. Höss tried to sleep.
Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in
Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."
For the first time Höss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I
took my orders from Himmler. I was a soldier in the same way as you
are a soldier and we had to obey orders."
The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning. The snow
was swirling
still, but the blanket was torn from Höss and he was made to walk
completely nude
through the prison yard to his cell.
</quote >
An article in the British newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
cell with a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed,"
October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case
of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones:
<quote >
Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
stationed at
Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein. "They brought him to us when he
refused to
cooperate over questioning about his activities during the war. He
came in the winter
of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls
Mr. Jones. Two
other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Höss in his cell
to help break
him down for interrogation. "We sat in the cell with him, night and
day, armed with
axe handles. Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to
help break down
his resistance," said Mr. Jones. When Höss was taken out for exercise
he was made
to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the bitter cold. After three
days and
nights without sleep, Höss finally broke down and made a full
confession to
the authorities.
</quote >
The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later
revamped, as document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral
deposition Hoess made for the IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it
had been extracted from him by torture...
Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the
Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this
leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and
not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if
the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of
the smoke.
The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an
extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about
every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.
The real "holocaust" was when the Communist Jews murdered millions of
Christians. Communism was Jewish. Here is proof:
Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
"This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)
Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
Charles Malamuth.
In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:
"In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
out of a possible 134, Zinoviev--132, Kamenev--131, Trotzky--131."
Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.
David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
Revolution, wrote:
"The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
revolution."
The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
wrote this:
"There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
movement controlled by Jews."
In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
Amerasia case they were:
Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
ringleader of the group arrested.
Andrew Roth, a Jew.
Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
John Service, a gentile.
Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.
In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.
The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.
In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
pro-communist.
One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
nationality unknown.
Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.
Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
Browne.
"But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
all.
"For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
"Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
"Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two men
who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."
The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:
"...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
law."
The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
the
U.S. Archives:
State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."
State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."
From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
Montgomery Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
type" type."
A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
Imperial Government.
The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
"Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."
"The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
Hebrew, September 10, 1920 "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the
membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan,
The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)
Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
himself:
"National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).
Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
"Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
stuff. From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."
Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.
Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
"The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://www.thebirdman.org http://www.nsm88.com/
http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html
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Date: 09 Aug 2007 12:35:48
From: gb6726
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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[
> Thus the only way to "negotiate", or "cooperate" with Atheists,
> is the same way that the U.S. Government "negotiated" with the
> Japanese on August 6th and August 9th of 1945. We "negotiated"!
]
The only way comrade, patron, I mean brother.
Australians siezed all terrotories of native aborigines, banned
alcohol for them
and claim sexual molestations as charges to assimilate them into the
Australian
siociety. "Federal takeover" of all sovereignty of aborigines,
Australians said
this federal takeover is the beginning of the end of the aborigines
culture.
Now remember the problems of sex in US churches among priests. Does
this mean taking federal control of churches, taking away the
"spiritual drink"
from the priests, and obtaining a federalist control over culture's
all sovereignties?
Separation of state and church ensures freedom of culture, but in
places
of federal power, things go crimes against humanity from one day to
another.
In another sense what happened in Australia is like taking over native
indian
lands and banning aboriginal cultures.
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Date: 09 Aug 2007 19:04:06
From: Tom McDonald
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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On Aug 9, 1:36 pm, benlizross <benli...@ihug.co.nz > wrote:
> Doug Weller wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 18:03:23 -0700, in sci.archaeology, A J K wrote:
>
> > >Min- Hopefully, your god will forgive your murderous
> > > ways. You are already in your own deviant hell.
>
> > >"Nomen Nescio" <nob...@dizum.com> wrote in messagenews:a543ec6e64e0bf641eea286a824ac1eb@dizum.com...
> > >On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Roy Jose Lorr <Ken...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > >>Richard Smol wrote
> > >>> You got it all wrong. Human beings survive just because they live
> > >>> together and cooperate. It's what makes us fit in our niche.
>
> > >>Try cooperating with someone intent on murdering you. Or,
> > >>with someone who wants your woman or your food or your money.
>
> > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> > >Indeed! Asking Christians to "cooperate" with Anti-Christian
> > >Atheists, in this day and age, would be very much comparable
> > >to having asked devout orthodox Jews to have cooperated with
> > >the NAZIs during the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust.
>
> > >Thus the only way to "negotiate", or "cooperate" with Atheists,
> > >is the same way that the U.S. Government "negotiated" with the
> > >Japanese on August 6th and August 9th of 1945. We "negotiated"!
>
> > >Atheists cannot ever be negotiated with, neither can they ever
> > >be reasoned with, nor can they ever be bargained with short of
> > >World War, Apocalyptic Armageddon, and Unconditional Surrender.
>
> > >The only good Atheist is: 1) a dead Atheist, or 2) an Atheist
> > >who has surrendered unconditionally. No other Atheist will do.
>
> > >Ex-Republican,
> > >Daniel Joseph Min
> > >http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
> > And he is claiming that that is the Christian position?
>
> > Doug
> > --
> > Doug Weller --
> > A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'athttp://www.hallofmaat.com
> > Doug's Archaeology Site:http://www.ramtops.co.uk
> > Amun - co-owner/co-moderatorhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/
>
> I doubt that many Christians would recognize Min's bizarre syncretism as
> having anything to do with their own faith. It is his own invention, and
> remember that it is fully compatible with incitement to mass murder.
> Search "Yusuf Min Laden" for previous outbursts. His homicidal impulses
> were only temporarily sublimated during his Bushevite period, now ended.
> Notice how last week he allowed several people to plunge to their
> deaths, then announced smugly that he had known from his astrological
> calculations exactly when that bridge was going to collapse.
I don't think he *pre*dicted the collapse. The chart he links to shows
the collapse at 6:05 pm on August 1, but I think he got that from the
news. He is like some other Usenet astrologers--ambulance chasers who
glory in death.
It looks like Fred Phelps and family are planning to turn up at
victims' funerals in Minnesota. One never has an Army Colt 45 cal.
Model 1911A when one really needs one, does one? ;-)
> Now it's
> back to slaughtering the atheists and liberals. And this is not to
> mention the great post-apocalyptic schadenfreude, when Min will be like
> a kid at a birthday party, sitting at God's table giggling with glee at
> the sight of the rest of us burning in eternal torment.
We can take comfort (and no little measure of glee) in the fact that
if Min says it, it won't happen. He is truly the worlds' (not sic!)
worst prognosticator. If he would just make specific stock picks, one
could sell before the rush and make a mint.
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Date: 09 Aug 2007 00:08:59
From: jerry warner
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was:
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you could change your name to Moronimus Botch ?
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Richard Smol wrote
> >> You got it all wrong. Human beings survive just because they live
> >> together and cooperate. It's what makes us fit in our niche.
> >
> >Try cooperating with someone intent on murdering you. Or,
> >with someone who wants your woman or your food or your money.
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Indeed! Asking Christians to "cooperate" with Anti-Christian
> Atheists, in this day and age, would be very much comparable
> to having asked devout orthodox Jews to have cooperated with
> the NAZIs during the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust.
>
> Thus the only way to "negotiate", or "cooperate" with Atheists,
> is the same way that the U.S. Government "negotiated" with the
> Japanese on August 6th and August 9th of 1945. We "negotiated"!
>
> Atheists cannot ever be negotiated with, neither can they ever
> be reasoned with, nor can they ever be bargained with short of
> World War, Apocalyptic Armageddon, and Unconditional Surrender.
>
> The only good Atheist is: 1) a dead Atheist, or 2) an Atheist
> who has surrendered unconditionally. No other Atheist will do.
>
> Ex-Republican,
> Daniel Joseph Min
> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
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Date: 17 Aug 2007 07:08:23
From: W. Watson
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was:
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Atheist? Oh, I get it. You're talking about the ancient constellation whose
bright stars were named Theism, Pantheism, Atheism, Agnosticism, and Deism.
Yes, very astronomical. Maybe not. I'll check with Homer Simpson about it
later.
jerry warner wrote:
> you could change your name to Moronimus Botch ?
>
>
>
> Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Richard Smol wrote
>>>> You got it all wrong. Human beings survive just because they live
>>>> together and cooperate. It's what makes us fit in our niche.
>>> Try cooperating with someone intent on murdering you. Or,
>>> with someone who wants your woman or your food or your money.
>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>
>> Indeed! Asking Christians to "cooperate" with Anti-Christian
>> Atheists, in this day and age, would be very much comparable
>> to having asked devout orthodox Jews to have cooperated with
>> the NAZIs during the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust.
>>
>> Thus the only way to "negotiate", or "cooperate" with Atheists,
>> is the same way that the U.S. Government "negotiated" with the
>> Japanese on August 6th and August 9th of 1945. We "negotiated"!
>>
>> Atheists cannot ever be negotiated with, neither can they ever
>> be reasoned with, nor can they ever be bargained with short of
>> World War, Apocalyptic Armageddon, and Unconditional Surrender.
>>
>> The only good Atheist is: 1) a dead Atheist, or 2) an Atheist
>> who has surrendered unconditionally. No other Atheist will do.
>>
>> Ex-Republican,
>> Daniel Joseph Min
>> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>>
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>
--
Wayne Watson (Nevada City, CA)
Web Page: <speckledwithStars.net >
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Date: 09 Aug 2007 02:25:35
From: John Smith
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com > wrote in message
news:a543ec6e64e0bf641eea286a824ac1eb@dizum.com...
> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Richard Smol wrote
>>> You got it all wrong. Human beings survive just because they live
>>> together and cooperate. It's what makes us fit in our niche.
>>
>>Try cooperating with someone intent on murdering you. Or,
>>with someone who wants your woman or your food or your money.
That's where initegrity and commitement really shine.
It was also the lesson of Mahatma Gandhi ... AND Christ.
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> Indeed! Asking Christians to "cooperate" with Anti-Christian
> Atheists, in this day and age, would be very much comparable
> to having asked devout orthodox Jews to have cooperated with
> the NAZIs during the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust.
You got it backwards.
As indicated by your propaganda lies (which is paralleled by so many other
christian liars) - the "christians" are more aking to the Nazis ..
and the minority (numerically and in power and influence) atheists - with
the Jews.
>
> Thus the only way to "negotiate", or "cooperate" with Atheists,
> is the same way that the U.S. Government "negotiated" with the
> Japanese on August 6th and August 9th of 1945. We "negotiated"!
Ah........ so the christian answer is to nuke the hell out of the opponent,
and then pretend that you're cooperating with them.
Just more deranged propaganda.
>
> Atheists cannot ever be negotiated with, neither can they ever
> be reasoned with, nor can they ever be bargained with short of
> World War, Apocalyptic Armageddon, and Unconditional Surrender.
Obviously you're not only totally ignorant of history - you have a hard time
with reality.
>
> The only good Atheist is: 1) a dead Atheist, or 2) an Atheist
> who has surrendered unconditionally. No other Atheist will do.
Love your "christian" senitiment. I'm sure Christ would be proud!
>
> Ex-Republican,
ex human, you mean.
> Daniel Joseph Min
> http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
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Date: 08 Aug 2007 18:03:23
From: A J K
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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Min- Hopefully, your god will forgive your murderous
ways. You are already in your own deviant hell.
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com > wrote in message news:a543ec6e64e0bf641eea286a824ac1eb@dizum.com...
On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net > wrote:
>Richard Smol wrote
>> You got it all wrong. Human beings survive just because they live
>> together and cooperate. It's what makes us fit in our niche.
>
>Try cooperating with someone intent on murdering you. Or,
>with someone who wants your woman or your food or your money.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Indeed! Asking Christians to "cooperate" with Anti-Christian
Atheists, in this day and age, would be very much comparable
to having asked devout orthodox Jews to have cooperated with
the NAZIs during the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust.
Thus the only way to "negotiate", or "cooperate" with Atheists,
is the same way that the U.S. Government "negotiated" with the
Japanese on August 6th and August 9th of 1945. We "negotiated"!
Atheists cannot ever be negotiated with, neither can they ever
be reasoned with, nor can they ever be bargained with short of
World War, Apocalyptic Armageddon, and Unconditional Surrender.
The only good Atheist is: 1) a dead Atheist, or 2) an Atheist
who has surrendered unconditionally. No other Atheist will do.
Ex-Republican,
Daniel Joseph Min
http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
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Date: 09 Aug 2007 18:30:14
From: Doug Weller
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 18:03:23 -0700, in sci.archaeology, A J K wrote:
>Min- Hopefully, your god will forgive your murderous
> ways. You are already in your own deviant hell.
>
>"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:a543ec6e64e0bf641eea286a824ac1eb@dizum.com...
>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Richard Smol wrote
>>> You got it all wrong. Human beings survive just because they live
>>> together and cooperate. It's what makes us fit in our niche.
>>
>>Try cooperating with someone intent on murdering you. Or,
>>with someone who wants your woman or your food or your money.
>
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>Indeed! Asking Christians to "cooperate" with Anti-Christian
>Atheists, in this day and age, would be very much comparable
>to having asked devout orthodox Jews to have cooperated with
>the NAZIs during the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust.
>
>Thus the only way to "negotiate", or "cooperate" with Atheists,
>is the same way that the U.S. Government "negotiated" with the
>Japanese on August 6th and August 9th of 1945. We "negotiated"!
>
>Atheists cannot ever be negotiated with, neither can they ever
>be reasoned with, nor can they ever be bargained with short of
>World War, Apocalyptic Armageddon, and Unconditional Surrender.
>
>The only good Atheist is: 1) a dead Atheist, or 2) an Atheist
>who has surrendered unconditionally. No other Atheist will do.
>
>Ex-Republican,
>Daniel Joseph Min
>http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
>
And he is claiming that that is the Christian position?
Doug
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Doug Weller --
A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/
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Date: 10 Aug 2007 06:36:25
From: benlizross
Subject: Re: Believers declare *WAR* against Anti-Christian Atheists! (was: Judaism And Darwinism)
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Doug Weller wrote:
>
> On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 18:03:23 -0700, in sci.archaeology, A J K wrote:
>
> >Min- Hopefully, your god will forgive your murderous
> > ways. You are already in your own deviant hell.
> >
> >"Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message news:a543ec6e64e0bf641eea286a824ac1eb@dizum.com...
> >On Thu, 09 Aug 2007, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>Richard Smol wrote
> >>> You got it all wrong. Human beings survive just because they live
> >>> together and cooperate. It's what makes us fit in our niche.
> >>
> >>Try cooperating with someone intent on murdering you. Or,
> >>with someone who wants your woman or your food or your money.
> >
> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >
> >Indeed! Asking Christians to "cooperate" with Anti-Christian
> >Atheists, in this day and age, would be very much comparable
> >to having asked devout orthodox Jews to have cooperated with
> >the NAZIs during the reign of Adolf Hitler and the Holocaust.
> >
> >Thus the only way to "negotiate", or "cooperate" with Atheists,
> >is the same way that the U.S. Government "negotiated" with the
> >Japanese on August 6th and August 9th of 1945. We "negotiated"!
> >
> >Atheists cannot ever be negotiated with, neither can they ever
> >be reasoned with, nor can they ever be bargained with short of
> >World War, Apocalyptic Armageddon, and Unconditional Surrender.
> >
> >The only good Atheist is: 1) a dead Atheist, or 2) an Atheist
> >who has surrendered unconditionally. No other Atheist will do.
> >
> >Ex-Republican,
> >Daniel Joseph Min
> >http://www.2hot2cool.com/11/danieljosephmin/
> >
>
> And he is claiming that that is the Christian position?
>
> Doug
> --
> Doug Weller --
> A Director and Moderator of The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com
> Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk
> Amun - co-owner/co-moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Amun/
>
I doubt that many Christians would recognize Min's bizarre syncretism as
having anything to do with their own faith. It is his own invention, and
remember that it is fully compatible with incitement to mass murder.
Search "Yusuf Min Laden" for previous outbursts. His homicidal impulses
were only temporarily sublimated during his Bushevite period, now ended.
Notice how last week he allowed several people to plunge to their
deaths, then announced smugly that he had known from his astrological
calculations exactly when that bridge was going to collapse. Now it's
back to slaughtering the atheists and liberals. And this is not to
mention the great post-apocalyptic schadenfreude, when Min will be like
a kid at a birthday party, sitting at God's table giggling with glee at
the sight of the rest of us burning in eternal torment.
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